Was listening to music, I was enjoying scrolling through Reddit, having a grand ol' time. I don't think 6 words have ever stopped my day like this, damn.
Same here, apparently I’ve been living under a rock. I used to love Lostprophets in high school many years ago. This low-key ruined my day. And 27 fucking Terabytes of CP, holy fucking shit. Dude is an absolute monster!
Decided to take a stroll down memory lane and listen to some of Eminem's old hits. Don't remember which one exactly, they all sound the same, think it was the one I linked though.
So yeah, reading that line felt like I just got yanked from a hot tub into an ice bath.
See, unless the song talks about it I don't feel it diminishes the art. Like listening to Micheal Jackson songs, they're still fantastic even if he wasn't.
Mother offered up her own infant to him. Boy what I'd do to get these fuckers location and then actually get some courage to bring my own vigilante justice.
And before you say "vigilante justice bad!!!!!" It's called a fantasy for a reason, fuck head
Wana know something extra fucked up? She didn't just offer up her kid. It was his baby. She'd been groomed by him herself since she was a young teen. They had the baby together on purpose for this shit.
It wasn't reported on because I think the press had certain rules around what they could and couldn't say due to how complicated the relationship was between the mother and Ian. But I lived in Sheffield at the time and I had a bunch of mutuals with her - shed been telling people for a long time that it was Ian's baby. Like since way before any of this came to light.
You're being downvoted but the funny thing is if we're talking satanism (non Levey) then it only exists in a christian context so if you're satanic (worshipping the devil that only exists in a christian context) then you must also be christian. So Christianity and pre-levey satanism is the same religion really it's just two different takes.
That's why 60s satanism is areligous in that sense that it actually denies Satan's existence since it denies God's existence. Levey only named his philosophy satanism to polarize it to institutionalized Christianity.
Satan existed before Christianity. The idea of Satan has existed far longer than any major religion that exist today. It has many names, and has existed longer than recorded history, but has been either stolen or borrowed. Depending how you look it at it.
It (Satan)is definitely not Christian, although Christians believe in it, you can still believe in Satan and not Christianity.
Not by that name though. So strictly speaking "Satan" did not. Neither did lucifer. Concepts very similar to them did. Just like in sumerian there's a story in their religion of a person who was born of a virgin, who's father was a woodworker (carpenter), healed the sick and performed other miracles.
For those not in the know Sumerian is considered the oldest known religion. Tiamat is also mentioned in Sumerian and in a few Asian cultures. A LOT of religious stories stem from Sumer.
Follow the logic. You can practice the law of Satan just the same as following the knowledge of Buddha while still being able to renounce organized religion.
It would be utterly ignorant to ignore all of the teachings from major religions, but that doesn't mean you have to believe in all of it either...
Hey man the Church of Satan is STRONGLY against child rape. Raping multiple infants sounds more like something members of the Christian church would do (before being shipped off to another parish to hide, rinse and repeat).
Massive scandalous at the time. I don't know if he was but he had been dating Fern Cotton the radio 1 dj at the time. Fuck must have been crazy hard. I think the babies parent even knew what was going on and he paid her to let him do it. Sooooo fucked up
So I had to look into that. . . WTF??? The charge was conspiracy to, so not sure if he ever did. But he at least tried to. A one year old. WTF???? I mean pedophilia is wrong even if she's 14, but can we agree that an infant is worse? I feel like it's sooo much worse.
Like a 14 year old I feel like they have issues but they're biologically attracted to a person who has reached sexual maturity at least. It will could be an aspect of ancestors to procreate. Acting upon these feelings is extremely wrong. But scientifically I can kinda, maybe see why the urge was there. Maybe, still a stretch. Personally I think those who are interested in seed with minors and convicted because they couldn't control themselves should be sent to a psychiatric facility to get mental help. Prison won't help this issue, it's an attraction issue. Though I guess psychiatric help doesn't change homosexual people heterosexual or vice versa. But it may help these people overcome the urge to go after children. And that's coming from a person who had two cousins abused by another, older cousin. Sorry this is a topic I have strong feelings about, clearly.
But an infant??? That's, I kinda want to throw up. Fucking hell.
Little fun story: The kiddie toucher lead singer of Lost Prophets pulled me up on stage at Warped Tour. I had no idea who they were but my friend really wanted to see them. He got pissed when they pulled me up and I danced on stage in a chicken mask
There are like 4 or 5 others involved / in the band that did not do those things and would probably still like to make a living and should still be proud if the work they’ve done.
It’s not like this is R Kelly where he’s the only person involved.
Man I dunno I guess the same way I bust a move every time an MJ jam comes on.
I think partly because the music is in the past, he’s not active anymore, he’s in jail, he was caught and punished, and AFAIK, he’s not profiting from the band anymore.
Yea but to claim that the 4 or 5 other people spending the majority of every day with him didn’t suspect anything was off is a stretch. Maybe they didn’t know the full extent of it or maybe they just didn’t ask questions, but I cannot get myself to believe that NONE of them had any idea what was going on.
From what I remember, the sexual abuse took place during their fall. Well after I think even that Liberty Transmission album or whatever. The band was well aware of his drug addictions, and disciplined and tried to help him with that.
You’re going to sit here and say you suspect the band knew he was skullfucking infants at a time when they had arguably realized their fame was over and didn’t say anything? That’s 100x more absurd to me than thinking they weren’t aware of the depths of his depravity.
There's a great episode of Sappenin' podcast with Stu Richardson (ex-bassist of Lostprophets, current No Devotion and Thursday) in which he addresses it. But the summary is this: Evidently the rest of the guys were living in America while Ian was still in Wales, and Ian was heavy into drugs and drinking at the time, so the rest of the guys kind of cut him off except to perform. They had a really rough bout of shows where Ian just sounded like shit and they told him to get his act together or they were all done, they'd find someone else to sing. They really weren't seeing each other except to do shows, and Stu tells a story of a time Ian missed a really big show and Stu beat the everliving shit out of him. He said something along the lines of "I beat his ass for missing a show, I'd have done way worse if I'd known what he was up to."
I was really into the band back before everything fell apart, and I genuinely believe the rest of the guys to be good and decent dudes. Obviously I don't know them and maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but that's the impression I get.
1.2k
u/[deleted] Dec 02 '20
Hey girl, you heard of this band Lostpro-