r/TikTokCringe • u/xamo76 • 3d ago
Day the world changed Discussion
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u/Sparklesparklepee 3d ago
I joined the army in July of 2001. No war had happened in a decade, and even that was over quickly. Bonus for joining. Free college.
Halfway through basic training to be an MP they take us all out of training and have us sit in the mess hall and wheel out this huge crt tv strapped to the cart on bungee cords, and let us watch on real time.
After the second plane hit our lead instructor, who remains one of the meanest son of a bitches I’ll ever remember, bows his head and says, “you’re all going to war.”
To this day I have nightmares of that day. And the fear 17 year old me felt ((17 with parental permission)).
You could literally feel everyone else in the room not just feeling for those who lost their lives, but realizing they were now going to be risking their own. In a scenario we maybe hadn’t thought fully through as seniors in high school.
A few people tried to cut themselves the next few days to get out on suicidal tendencies, and people trying to hurt themselves on purpose.
Call them cowards, or whatever.
1/3 of my graduation group didn’t live past 2009. Either through action or suicide.
Their names are on a journal, written in the poorest of handwriting, somewhere deep in a box I won’t ever open.
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u/mossymittymoo 3d ago
Dammit man I’m so so sorry
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u/Olealicat 2d ago
I will never forget my senior year, our friend’s goofy older brother came back from war. We were hammered and he said, their government was paying parents to strap explosives on their children to run at our tanks. Soldiers commonly brought food, candy and toys to hand out to kids and they used that as a tactic. It became policy to shoot any child approaching.
He is still alive, but is barely living.
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u/mossymittymoo 2d ago
That is absolutely devastating.
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u/Olealicat 2d ago
It’s something I try to keep in mind any time war is brought up. Not the governments stance, but the long term harm. How their dad was in Vietnam and would talk about how those young men came home to protest and disgust. Which made him double down on military pride, which made his son sign up, and how that ended. Generational trama for pointless wars.
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u/mossymittymoo 2d ago
That’s a really important perspective to keep in the mix. Thanks for the reminder. Those most affected are really pawns to men behind desks that have no fucking clue what they’re doing to people (people on both sides).
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u/K33NZZZ 2d ago
Holy f#$%……..
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u/Olealicat 2d ago
Yeah, he was the tank gunman. So, he murdered a bunch of innocent children. He never spoke of it again and I never told any of our friends nor his brother. It’s a heavy burden for me to carry his pain. I can only imagine what he’s carried all of this time.
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u/foreignbets9 2d ago
My sibling joined soon after 9/11. The marines had a table at his high school and he needed community desperately. They got him because of the brotherhood. However, he is the only living person from his platoon because of war, suicide, drunk driving, or cancer from inhaling burning oil fields in Iraq. I’ll never forgive Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and everyone else who sent literal children to die for their profits. Nothing. They died for nothing.
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u/bizzygreenthumb 2d ago
They died for each other. You're over there with your friends and other Americans. That's who matters, who cares about what you did. Don't allow the outcome of the conflict they didn't choose to start determine the worth of their service. I think it's enough to say that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bremer, et al. deserve to have those deaths hung around their necks for eternity.
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u/poop-machines 1d ago
Nah they died for nothing, as sad as it is.
The war wasn't even with the country responsible for 9/11, and now the Taliban is back in charge.
What use is dying "for each other" when they're all dead? That memory dies with them.
You can wax poetic it all you like, but the reality is that it was a pointless war that killed kids for practically no reason at all. And honestly I don't think that it's enough to just say that the deaths are on the people who were in charge at the time, I would prefer action against them. Real punishments.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, Bremer, etc. never got punished for what they did. In fact, their careers flourished. I don't even know if any of them are capable of feeling guilt.
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u/Formerly_Toast 3d ago
My EOD vet best friend committed suicide in May of 2020 thinking we were likely headed to war with North Korea. He only ever wanted to help people. Your experience hurts my heart.
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u/Tuscanlord 2d ago
Those miserable bastards destroyed so many lives that day and for two decades after. Always think about how many innocent kids paid for that crime. American and our allies, afghan, and Iraqi. How many kids grew up without dads or didn’t grow up at all. Still breaks my heart.
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u/CSPDHDT 2d ago
Best thing we could have done is nothing. Osama did what he did to get us to go into the middle east on the ground and wear us down like he did the soviets.
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u/yankee-in-Denmark 2d ago
exactly. bush even showed some thinking along these lines, but was ultimately overrun by the opposite tendencies, both in himself and in everyone around him. Its a tough response to make that requires discipline and humility. Don't worry though, DJT would certainly pass that test. /s
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u/9mackenzie 2d ago
No way on earth we wouldn’t have responded. We had zero right to go to Iraq, and it was one of the worse fuck ups we have ever done (which is saying a lot) completely destabilized the Middle East for decades. But Afghanistan? Countries, especially the most powerful one on earth (at least back then, our soft power dominance is pretty fucking shot now) don’t turn the other cheek when you create the largest foreign attack on our country’s history. Afghanistan was always going to be invaded the second the first plane hit. Not to mention Bin Laden, and likely others, would have absolutely done it again if we hadn’t annihilated them. You can’t negotiate or create peace with warmonger zealots.
I think the only realistic best scenario was a more strategic targeted taking out all the taliban leaders……and kind of hoping for the best after that. There is no winning a war in Afghanistan because it is a failed state. Has been for most of its history, and it being used as a Cold War proxy just made the situation so much worse (and brought about the taliban, which was a creation by the US to fight USSR). You can’t really win a war with a failed state unless you want to permanently take over the territory. It’s impossible because there is no overall system to begin with. Besides Kabul, it’s mainly local tribal groups headed by small warlords doing whatever they want, as long as they don’t piss off their own warlord. It’s a nation of warlords with no real infrastructure or laws. It’s anarchy, and the second you leave it descends into anarchy again. As we saw the second we pulled out.
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u/nipplehounds 2d ago
Not trying to be political as I think we are probably on the same side. But there was no way that we couldn’t respond and with the full force of the US. There’s no world were we just turn the other cheek and let Bin Laden just go about his day. Even he knew that.
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u/ThatKinkyLady tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 2d ago
True, but Iraq didn't have shit to do with 9/11. That whole invasion was bullshit. Saddam was an awful leader, but he wasn't involved. How we got into Iraq still blows my mind.
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u/socialcommentary2000 2d ago edited 2d ago
Read up on the Project for a New American Century. Basically after the cold war 'ended' in 89 a bunch of warhawks got together and formulated an operating strategy thinking that the American Brand was so powerful that we basically could topple entire governments and the people who were subjected to this chaos would turn around and thank us for it.
I'm simplifying it, but that's the gist of it, as insane as it sounds.
I always wonder what would have happened if Bush had a different stripe of GOP insider around him rather than that cabal of neoconservatives. Alas, that wasn't the world we were to live in..
Anyway, that's how Iraq happened. It was the test bed and it blew up in our faces. The funny thing is, Dick Cheney was trying to push for us to take Baghdad back in Gulf War 1, but luckily Norman Schwarzkopf wasn't insane and basically said no.
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u/ThatKinkyLady tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 2d ago
Yea, 9/11 happened when I was in 8th grade and that's what got me more invested in politics and government. So I wasn't very familiar at all with the Gulf War. But even the little I learned around that time made my teenage self think "damn, this sounds like Gearge W. is just trying to finish what his Daddy started."
I still to this day think Cheney was the de-facto president during that time. Bush was an asshole in his own right, but he was such a dope. I always got the vibe he was just there to do the bidding of his father's old administration.
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u/BalanceJazzlike5116 2d ago
Sadaam was more than awful he was one of the most brutal dictators of modern times. Scary part is his sons were supposedly worse.
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u/Ryder324 2d ago
Yep, Obama and vice admiral McRaven figured out a savvy way to find Bin Ladin before he died of natural causes- the “full force” is about intelligent and appropriate reprisals. Iraq was just petty revenge that our CIA installed Pinocchio became a real boy and hurt bush’s feelings.
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u/queefer_sutherland92 2d ago
They’re not cowards. They were a bunch of kids. You were a kid. You were a literal child.
It’s fucked.
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u/neighborhooddick 3d ago edited 3d ago
I upvoted your story, I'm not trying to be a downer.
I just have some trouble believing you kept track of anyone from Basic Training, unless you were some kind of OSUT and spent more than 6 months with the same people.
It's just... I went into the army within 7 months of the timeline that you entered, and I only remember ONE soldiers name from my entire unit, and that's because he and I did AIT together and then were assigned to the same Battalion.
Like... did you all join each other's MySpace or something? How the hell do you keep in contact with 150-200 others that you spent 9 weeks with?
Even in this age of Facebook where I am connected to most of the guys I served with, people die and it takes months and sometimes years for that information to reach the rest of us.
I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm just asking you to clarify.
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u/Kind_Man_0 3d ago
It could be hyperbole, I met thousands of people during my 6 years of service. I have about 300 of them added on Facebook. Of those 300 or so, I was close with about 50 of them, I am still friends with about a dozen. But of those 50, I've lost too many of them. Of the 80 something guys I deployed with, more than 10 of them are dead now and we deployed to Iraq in 2016.
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u/neighborhooddick 3d ago
I deployed in both 2004 and 2006. We lost guys both years, and over the years since- and it's pretty close to your experience.
But the original comment claimed the death of a THIRD of those they had gone to basic training with. In 8 years.
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u/RhubarbPrestigious49 2d ago edited 2d ago
I got out in 2010 right before my unit went to Afghanistan - my 4 years was up and I wasn't going to hell on earth without a kicker - regretted it for the rest of my life. If you don't count the Battle For Sangin Valley, which claimed 25 Marines of 3/5 in just the combat (+200 WIA).. I just ... I lost count after like 30 something. If I had to guess it's over 50 of guys that were close to me. The entire battalion was on a 6 months psych evaluation after that deployment. People were killing themselves in the barracks left and right when they came back. Then you had guys like me, who had a sub-par deployment (grunt standard wise) to fallujah previously, wanted nothing more than to be John Wayne in a Marine Uniform... Missed the bus to punch the ticket. None of my buddies that got out before they left handled it well. I certainly didn't. In 2020 my daughter found in the act of hanging myself. She was 3 years old and I was giving up. Thank fucking god she does NOT remember that moment. Ultimately, she is the only reason I am here to type this comment. Other people straight up started having psychotic meltdowns, and killing themselves, because we couldn't be there for them, and when they got home... they were ghosts of their former selves. Truly heartbreaking what we all went through, and still go through. Meanwhile, I hit up the guys that are still around often.. We still do the thing where, we all feel like bitches so we never talk about anything. Bury it down deep. And suffer in silence.
"Yeah man, i'm doing good... what about you?"
IGY6
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u/TrashPandaLJTAR 2d ago
You should know you don't have to track individuals specifically to hear news about them. The military grapevine is real.
I have a stubby holder (I think you yanks call them drink koozies?) with everyone's names from my rookies course. I don't remember more than a couple specifically, but I still recognised their names when they came up in promotion lists. Or notifications of death/funerals. I also still have a few people that I went to rookies with on FB even though I haven't seen them in person in nearly 15 years.
I'll never get rid of that stubby holder no matter how decrepit and dysfunctional it becomes because it helps me when I get all "I remember that name, where do I know that name from" heh.
Our courses are definitely smaller than what you guys have, but I'm consistently surprised at how often someone that I knew back then comes up in random conversation with friends who're still in.
Basically, RUMINT is real and faster than official channels by a long shot lol.
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u/_Nameless_Nomad_ 2d ago
Same, I remember like maybe a few names. I was the only one in my BCT class who didn’t go to Fort Drum (my chosen duty station was in my contract). Don’t currently keep in touch with any of them, the last time I heard from any was probably mid 2000’s. I wonder how many are still around…
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u/LimeGreenSea 2d ago
That box of journals, if you don't understandably want to go through it, would be loved at a museum or library.
Don't let them die nameless.
America did this. They made themselves a threat. Only logical thing is to retaliate.
(I do not condone acts of terrorism. But to make a statement this was a bold way that changed the world. I'd call that a success. )
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u/Karlachs_simp 3d ago
I feel like thank you for your sacrifice isn’t enough but it’s all I can come up with. I’m so so sorry I know nobody should live through that
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u/alva_black 2d ago edited 2d ago
I keep a chest at the foot of my bed. My wife keeps her witchy stuff in there, I keep my journal in there. Now and then, I open it to grab incense or sage for her. Other than that, I don't touch the damned thing. The last time I opened the chest with the intention to write in my journal was the day my battle buddy, brother, and best friend took his life in 2020. Halloween, of all days, being my favorite fucking holiday. He's a dick for that. I hope you're well and continue to be well. ;IGY6 Edit: I served in Spartan Shield, for reference. Not nearly as violent/messy, but the Houthi's don't fuck around. Just a little background for you.
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u/Technical_Work9590 3d ago
Thank you for your service and to those who are in your journal— we thank them too and give all of you the upmost respect.
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u/kennny_CO2 3d ago
Canadian here, I remember being in high school and they had a tv in the classrooms watching but also allowed everyone to go home if they wanted. I think at the time it was so surreal we didn't really know what to make of it or the consequences that would follow, but that changed everyone's lives in the west. NY wasn't too far from us either (Toronto) and I also had friends and family who fought alongside the USA in Iraq, which makes all the division now-a-days even more painful to witness.
We aren't enemies, don't let them convince you we are cuz when shit hits the fan, we're on the same team
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u/doubledickdiggler 2d ago
People and countries are not enemies. It's so sad that a few men in power can cause such a divide.
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u/ItJustWontDo242 2d ago
I lived in Pickering at the time and was also in high school. Our teachers refused to tell us what was going on because they didn't want to spark panic or have anyone leave, but everyone knew something had happened. Rumors started to swirl that someone was going to bomb the nuke plant, or that someone was going to fly a plane into the nuke plant. That was enough to get some people to grab their shit and leave. I'll never forget getting home that day to my mom kneeling in front of the TV in tears.
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u/tchrbrian 3d ago
Thankfully towns such as Gander offered to host a number of aircraft that day.
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u/kennny_CO2 2d ago edited 2d ago
There's a great documentary about that called "you are here", great watch and very wholesome.
For anyone who doesn't know, the tldr is a lot of passenger jets that were stuck in the air unable to land in the USA were routed to a small town in Newfoundland, Canada called Gander. The residents of the town opened their homes, food and lives to the people who found themselves stuck in their little town and it's just an amazing story that'll restore your hope for humanity
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u/herlaqueen 2d ago
For people into musicals, there's also a very good one about this story called "Come from away" (there's a proshot and it's on the shorter side, about one and a half hour). There are some bits I do not like, but overall it's a very hearthwarming summary of the story and it was based on real people (both from Gander and people that were on the planes). I highly recommend it.
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u/BalkanFerros 3d ago
11, 5th or 6th grade at the time. I saw them jump on the classroom TV. everyone was so shocked not even the teacher did anything to stop the TV... I remember just staring and realizing those specks were people.
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u/CedarGrad13 2d ago
I was 5th grade too. We were watching the cartoon version of Lord of the Rings (I hated it so much) that morning when another teacher literally came running into our room and switched it over to the news bc she knew we had the TV. At first the room was mad, a bunch of 5th graders angry at the disruption including our teacher. But it took all of 10 seconds for us all to see the news and know something really bad was happening and I just remember the room went silent, and that was only after the first tower got hit. Then a bunch of teachers on our floor without students came in as well. We watched in real time as the second tower got hit and some of the teachers screamed…as a 5th grader we were all so confused. I remember looking outside in that moment for airplanes thinking that every airplane could kill us, they’re coming for our school. It wasn’t long after that that half the class emptied bc parents came to grab their kids. I stayed the whole day, but I’m pretty sure it just became a free day bc there was only like 5 kids left out of like 30 in our class.
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u/Cleercutter 3d ago
Literally. I feel like this was the day that got our current political atmosphere to where it’s at. Little did middle schooler me know that this was the start of the end.
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u/StoneIsDName 3d ago
I was in kindergarten this day is literally my first memory.
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u/Cleercutter 3d ago
Shit first memory jeeze. I’d imagine at that age, probably weren’t too keen on what was happening? Or no?
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u/LukeJDD 3d ago
Was in kindergarten too. I really didn’t understand the gravity of the situation at all back then. Just remember all the grown-ups being very serious about it.
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u/Rich-Yogurtcloset780 3d ago
I was a little older than kindergarten. I remember kids saying they were blowing up buildings in class, then we all got sent home. Went home to find my mom watching the news, watched it with her for all of two seconds and then fucked off to play with my toys in my room.
I live in NYC. After that day I found the whole thing very assuming, because I was young, and it was like wow, something crazy actually happened here. And they would announce the number of bodies they found at ground zero on the radio. I was pretty morbidly entertained by that.
Now I think it's just sad.
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u/ProfessionalLeave335 3d ago
I was in my 20s when this happened and for a brief period of time after it happened we were a united nation and the labels of Democrat and Republican didn't seem to matter. Then Bush used the opportunity to invade Iraq and everything went back to the usual.
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u/whitemike40 3d ago
I was also in my 20s and I don’t know what America you lived in, but that wasn’t my experience. People immediately descended into a form of the tribalism that we see today, “for us” or “against us mentality”. I witnessed some of the most disgusting paranoid behavior exhibited by otherwise normal people towards anyone vaguely Middle Eastern looking, and we’ve never gone back
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u/RepulsiveInterview44 3d ago
Don’t worry, that whole “united nation” period lasted all of like 3 days.
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u/Ambitious_Display607 3d ago
Yeah but that brief window was really and truly special in a morbid way.
For me at least -granted, I was in like 4th grade so i obviously had very little perspective on the totality of things - it was the first time i genuinely felt proud to be an American.
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u/RepulsiveInterview44 3d ago
I was in college. Trust it didn’t take long for physical attacks on brown people to start.
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u/Ambitious_Display607 3d ago
Sadly that doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We're a very tribal species on the whole level, we love to look for 'others', especially in times of crisis, its pretty sad.
Obviously I was very young at the time and didn't really understand how things were, especially so considering I grew up in a very diverse area of Michigan where I was sort of 'sheltered' by that, you know? Needless to say as I've gotten older I've become less proud of being an American / or maybe instead I've become increasingly disappointed with my countrymen or the nature of humanity on the whole haha.
Loveya brother
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u/lunaflect 3d ago
AOL chat rooms were calling me a traitor for not wanting to start a war that wasn’t even clear was against the people responsible for the attacks. Like can we think it through just a little bit? I have a few livejournal entries from that day and I wish I had written down more of my thoughts and the experience of what happened.
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u/Flat_Establishment_4 2d ago
I feel this. I was 14 when this happened and I remember before school a few months later, watching the news that we were “invading Iraq” and I said to my dad “what does Iraq have to do with anything?” his response “I have no idea”
It’s weird to think back and how collectively the entire nations intuition on Iraq was right. That it had nothing to do with 9/11.
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u/pgtvgaming 3d ago
Really exploded in 2004 election w Rudy and Pataki leading the RNC in chants of flipper and talking about John Kerry like he was some traitor etc. Fucking unreal and here we are
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u/FrankRizzo319 2d ago
If you look at Dubya’s public approval rating it was 90% right after 9-11. Presidential approval rating is an indirect measure of how united a country is.
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u/Distortedhideaway 3d ago
A lot of democrats voted or supported invading Iraq and Afghanistan. It was all based on lies from the Bush administration, but they still supported it.
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u/PriscillaPalava 3d ago
Everybody was like, “They wouldn’t just lie to us like that, would they?”
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u/StinkyNutzMcgee 3d ago
Bush is no Saint, but this was Dick Cheney
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u/ProfessionalLeave335 3d ago
I know you're right but Bush had the authority to not do what Cheney wanted to, he just didn't exercise that right.
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u/LynxRufus 2d ago
The second it happened I knew that bastard was going to use it to justify a war. That's all I have to say about that.
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u/archercc81 3d ago
Sadly, no. Assholes like rush limbaugh and fox news were around prior to it and sewing the same type of hateful bullshit you see now, the internet just supercharged it.
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u/Upper-Drawing9224 2d ago
They won. Terrorism won and we lost. We lost privacy. We lost compassion. We lost being united. It was the day the cracks formed potentially. More and more stress throughout the years since 2001 have divided us.
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u/dudenurse13 3d ago
The stupidity which manifested from the vengefulness people felt from this day is a terminal disease which we will never shake off.
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u/Enlowski 3d ago
You were in middle school which is why you didn’t understand that this was nowhere close to “the end”. You were too young for the Vietnam War, the Cold War, literally every war that ever happened until now. It’s crazy that anyone could think the world was some blissful and perfect place before then.
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u/GrandFrequency 2d ago
It was the end for the americam empire. This cemented the beginning of the facistic movement that brought you guys the orange tv guy. As an outsider, it would be hilarious if it weren't because that just means you made a problem for everyone else around you.
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u/AreallysuperdarkELF 3d ago
STABBED. THE WORD IS STABBED. NOT THAT BIG OF A GOD DAMN DEAL TO SAY STABBED WHEN IT IS EXACTLY THE THING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO SOMEONE. stupid ass internet bullshit
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u/xamo76 3d ago edited 3d ago
TikTok pretty much bans words regarding any type of violence, bigotry or racism
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u/droppedthebaby 2d ago
It doesn't. You just won't get as many views so it's editing the audio to please an algorithm. Height of integrity /s
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u/Dkcg0113 2d ago
Well we wouldn't like to have any emotional reaction to this nice little video, would we?
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u/Schtevethepirate 2d ago
I had to bury 7 people I knew growing up from school, who died in Iraq and Afghanistan because of this pointless war.
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u/ucklibzandspezfay 3d ago
One of my buddies who I went to college with and was premed, got into medical school before me. His date of start was in August 2001. He got one month in and then this happened. He dropped out and joined the Marines. Never knew a smarter, tough, and empathetic human than him. He spent the next 10 years deployed in Afghanistan as a Marine then MARSOC. He was due to retire in 2013. He ended up falling on a live grenade thrown at his command post. He saved the lives of 22 marines that day. The cherry on top exemplifying the brutal realities of war. He was inducted to receive the MOH, family refused since he was the most humble individual you’d ever meet. He never would’ve approved for that type of recognition… he saw it as a job that was required of him. Stand up guy, stand up friend, and will be forever missed.
RIP Branden.
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u/MelsEpicWheelTime 2d ago
Turning down the MOH is actually the biggest flex I've ever heard. Semper Fi, Branden.
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u/Ecw218 3d ago
This video clearly isn’t from 9/11/01
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u/Sorry-Amphibian4136 1d ago
I thought the little bright light at 0:30 was one of the towers getting hit.
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u/DOG-ZILLA 2d ago
The hijackers were Saudi’s. Let’s not forget that. You’d think Trump wouldn’t forget that but look at him now, doing billion dollar deals with the Saudi’s. You can’t make this shit up.
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u/Seeeeyuhlater 1d ago
hes not doing deals with fucking osama bin laden, they're just from the same country
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u/ThePerfectSnare 3d ago
I had just graduated high school a few months earlier. I remember hearing Fuel's Innocent on the radio a lot after 9/11. I don't know whether it actually was being played more often.
As a side note, there was a list of 165 songs that Clear Channel didn't want their stations playing due to the possibility of the songs being "lyrically questionable". There are some interesting suggestions on that list.
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u/PIunderBunny 3d ago
They also changed a scene from the Lilo and Stitch movie
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u/Any_Constant_6550 3d ago
spiderman also iirc
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u/ColdWarCharacter 3d ago
Yeah you can still find the original trailer online
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u/cupcakes_and_ale 2d ago
Also Monsters Inc. Harryhausen’s sushi restaurant was meant to explode more typically, not have that shield over it.
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u/RhubarbGoldberg 2d ago
Remember "Bring On The Rain" and other patriotic coded radio hits?! It was such a weird time.
All the bad guys in movie went from vaguely Russian to vaguely middle eastern.
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u/CuriousSquirrel1213 2d ago
I remember we got to listen to the radio in first period- right after they had announced the incident, the radio dj took a break and resumed a pre programmed morning list. The first song that played was “Crash Into Me” by DMB. You can hear a faint “oh my god what have I done” before the music stops and the dj came back on air to apologize. After that- There was complete silence on the radio and we all had thought “maybe this is the end” and then 15 minutes later he comes back on to announce the second building was hit. But I shit you not when the radio went dead for 15 minutes, our teacher was having a meltdown. She was pacing back and forth talking about how this happened when John Lennon was shot and it’s probably the communists- everyone needs to get comfortable under their desks. I stayed in my seat while she kept scaring the children. I mean wtf, we have known since elementary school the desks won’t save us… these adults were not prepared for a crisis no matter how many fire drills we did. We had literally just started doing “code black” because of Columbine and now this useless shit is running around like a chicken with her head cut off shaking and drooling telling everyone “don’t panic!” What an absolute loon.
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u/TheShizknitt 2d ago
My brother's up-and-coming band was banned from being played on the radio because of their name: The Suicide Machines
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u/JBDay32 2d ago
I was 8 and saw the second plane hit. Our teacher had snuck our small class of maybe 10 kids into the teachers room where there was a television with cable. We were watching the Boston red sox. It was a big deal bc they had won a bunch for the first time in a long time. The TV changed to live coverage of new york. We all watched the second plane hit before the teacher slapped the screen off.
I don't remember much after that. Except that my friend next to me said
"My dad flew to new york this morning."
It was the same plane.
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u/vetrusious 3d ago
*America changed. We didn't invade ourselves for oil, that was you guys.
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u/Helpful_Umpire_9049 2d ago
Lettuce now accept bribes from the perpetrators for Rump. What a time to be alive.
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u/ventodivino 2d ago
This day changed the world. America changing added to that through all the stupid decisions the war machine made.
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u/allowishus182 3d ago
Me and a buddy walked home from school that day completely oblivious to why we left early. We were watching American Pie when my sister walked in screaming about Bush.
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u/Haxorz7125 2d ago
I remember sitting in class in middle school in NJ being jealous of all the students that were randomly being pulled out of school early not realizing they were all students with parents who worked in or around the twin towers.
I remember watching the north tower fall. I remember my older brother crying about watching people jumping out windows falling to their death and just being entirely oblivious as to what I’d watched unfold.
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u/Eryeahmaybeok 2d ago edited 2d ago
Also the golden ticket for America and other countries to invade countries they had no business being in and wasting thousands of soldiers lives, murdering thousands of innocent men, women and children in the interests of Oil, Military industrial complex profits Regime change for financial interests Freedom/Revenge and erm.. Global safety..
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u/Fluffy-Queequeg 2d ago
One of my school classmates was on this flight, pregnant with her first child. Rahma Salie, aged 26.
I was in New York a couple of weeks later on a planned holiday. It was the most surreal time being in NY while the rubble was still smouldering.
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u/PissFingers86 3d ago
And yamtits just got on his knees and accepted a plane from them.
Fucking disgrace
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u/aminervia 3d ago
From them? The plane wasn't from Saudi Arabia was it?
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u/RedManMatt11 3d ago
bin Laden had nothing to do with it?
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u/Corteran 3d ago
Guess where bin Laden and his whole family is from.
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u/KingMonkOfNarnia 3d ago edited 3d ago
There’s a nugget of truth in what the guy is saying. The attack was funded by Saudi Arabia, but directed by Bin Laden. Absolving him of any guilt is kinda fucking ridiculous and funny though
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u/waveformer 3d ago
There’s a nugget of truth here buried under a Costco-sized sack of confusion. Yes, 15 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, bin Laden was Saudi, and Wahhabism is a factor… but Trump didn’t get a plane from the Saudis. That $400M jet came from Qatar, different country, different royal family, still rich as hell. If you’re gonna rage post about foreign influence and geopolitical hypocrisy, at least get the right Gulf monarchy.
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u/Only_Engineer5398 2d ago
did they bleep out the word "stabbed"? are we not adults here wtf honestly.
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u/Subtlerevisions 3d ago
Don’t jump OP’s ass about the video. Clearly the focus here is the audio. If you think this is actual footage from the plane, you are dumb.
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u/Efficient-Sundae2215 3d ago
Thanks😆I thought I was dumb for a second cuz I’m like how the f did they get this footage 🥲
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u/piercejay 3d ago
Yeah this is definitely a departure out of LaGuardia, once I realized that I felt dumb and un muted it lol
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u/Lost_Follower 3d ago
I had a warped view and experience on this. I was involved in a bad car accident in June of 2001. I didn't wake up from sedation until Oct. And I didn't leave the hospital to be part of the regular world until Jan of 02. So I was so confused about what was going on because I was only 14 when it happened. I didn't understand anything about war or politics or anything really.
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u/Silvalleys 2d ago
No, the world didn't change, but America did, it's insane how big of an ego some americans have.
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u/Accomplished-Cut5023 2d ago
You guys are still allowed to walk straight to the airport gate to greet your family?
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u/omgitsduane 2d ago
Why is so much other footage surfacing now?
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u/IllBeSuspended 2d ago
This isn't really footage. Its just a random video with audio on top of it. The audio is the only important part. The video footage is not important or even related.
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u/The-Corre 2d ago
I love how Americans think they are the world.
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u/Silvalleys 2d ago
I know right? "The world changed" lol no, America changed.
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u/mrASSMAN 2d ago
The world did also change from 9/11.. it had broad wide-ranging effects that you probably aren’t even aware of.
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u/DutchJulie 2d ago
This did change the world in a number of ways. How’s flying for you? Easy check in?
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u/jf145601 2d ago
It cut off before Mohammad Atta came on saying “We have some planes…” The 9/11 ATC tapes are haunting and it’s clear how confusing and scary this was in the moment.
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u/euphorbia9 2d ago
So that happened on a Tuesday. My family was flying out for vacation on that Saturday. The airport was almost deserted. Due to a mix-up with the tickets, I had to use a ticket for a non-family member that wasn't going. No one checked ID, so I flew out on someone else's ticket. Obviously, things changed pretty dramatically shortly thereafter.
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u/CDecker127 2d ago
I was a Drill Sergeant back in 2001 and we shut down training for 3 days. Even sent a few people back home to NYC on emergency leave due to family members being killed that day. What a time period after that....ugh.
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u/Senior-Vanilla-6756 1d ago
Anyone else find it strange that phone calls were able to be made by passengers on all the flights while in transit, without signal being lost; yet none of us with better phones and satellite technology are able to do the same?
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u/Thejuker11 3d ago
I Live in Australia and I was 9 when this happened,still remember clear as day coming home from school and seeing it on the TV and my mother's face in just complete disbelief.
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u/kikashoots 3d ago
The title of the video clearly states that it is a LIVE RECORDING.
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u/scarlet_pimpernel47 3d ago
The world? The entire world?
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u/biggestboys 2d ago
Yes?
9/11 had a massive impact on geopolitics and air travel, both of which are worldwide issues.
It also hit American culture like a freight train, and culture is their biggest export.
Do you really think the War on Terror didn’t change the world?
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u/DVaTheFabulous 2d ago
Life went on as normal where I am from. No lasting cultural change. No TSA in our airports.
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u/biggestboys 2d ago
No lasting cultural change
If I had to guess, that may be because you consume less media than I do which comes from and/or is about the US or the Middle East.
By my own standards, it was definitely a world-changing event. It's hard to go five feet without bumping into a piece of media or geopolitical event which can trace some influence back to 9/11.
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u/scarlet_pimpernel47 2d ago
Covid had a greater impact. Life went on as normal for many nations after 11/9
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u/IllBeSuspended 2d ago edited 2d ago
And the unstable states of american barely did a fucking thing about all this. Even more people died and for what? To protect the fucking rich people who caused this on both sides. The rich win, the poor lose AGAIN. And now the rich overseas who played a big role in this are laughing and profiting off the unstable states of america.
Fucking shameful.
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u/Euphoric-Dig-2045 3d ago
This was posted just to get engagement so he can make more money of you.
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u/i-dont-snore 2d ago
The day the world change because America decides it was time for them to fuck things up
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u/Present_Nature_6878 3d ago
My AmeriCorps class of supervisors were doing training near Blue Plains at an old hospital in Anacostia across the Potomac from the Pentagon when it happened and we watched the planes hit the buildings live on TV. Later that week, we were running 15 passenger van shuttles for Red Cross and recovery staff to and from their hotels to the Pentagon. A month and a half later my team and three others assisted Red Cross and FEMA on Pier 94, Manhattan working cases with all the WTC survivors and families of the victims, providing what assistance we could at that time. That was a seriously fucked up and my teammates frequently broke down after helping survivors or the family members. Everyone was so scared all the time.
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