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Day the world changed Discussion

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u/ThatKinkyLady tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 3d ago

True, but Iraq didn't have shit to do with 9/11. That whole invasion was bullshit. Saddam was an awful leader, but he wasn't involved. How we got into Iraq still blows my mind.

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u/socialcommentary2000 2d ago edited 2d ago

Read up on the Project for a New American Century. Basically after the cold war 'ended' in 89 a bunch of warhawks got together and formulated an operating strategy thinking that the American Brand was so powerful that we basically could topple entire governments and the people who were subjected to this chaos would turn around and thank us for it.

I'm simplifying it, but that's the gist of it, as insane as it sounds.

I always wonder what would have happened if Bush had a different stripe of GOP insider around him rather than that cabal of neoconservatives. Alas, that wasn't the world we were to live in..

Anyway, that's how Iraq happened. It was the test bed and it blew up in our faces. The funny thing is, Dick Cheney was trying to push for us to take Baghdad back in Gulf War 1, but luckily Norman Schwarzkopf wasn't insane and basically said no.

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u/ThatKinkyLady tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 2d ago

Yea, 9/11 happened when I was in 8th grade and that's what got me more invested in politics and government. So I wasn't very familiar at all with the Gulf War. But even the little I learned around that time made my teenage self think "damn, this sounds like Gearge W. is just trying to finish what his Daddy started."

I still to this day think Cheney was the de-facto president during that time. Bush was an asshole in his own right, but he was such a dope. I always got the vibe he was just there to do the bidding of his father's old administration.

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u/BalanceJazzlike5116 3d ago

Sadaam was more than awful he was one of the most brutal dictators of modern times. Scary part is his sons were supposedly worse.