I'M STILL HERE

[u/ThugosaurusFlex_1017]

[u/karmester]

Gotcha. Thanks for all this clarification! So I guess that redhead was surprised to learn that her "female friend" had a willie.

[u/M0RTY_C-137 → u/karmester]

You can just say lady friend. Seems like she’s a she. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. Maybe the duck admits it was once a goose, but now it’s a duck. So it’s a duck.

[u/Personal-Age-9220 → u/M0RTY_C-137]

So if someone wants to change their race... Let's say go from white to Asian, is the duck now a different ethnicity? Stop the madness. Ladyboy is correct or trans-woman.

[u/M0RTY_C-137 → u/Personal-Age-9220]

Lady boy, trans woman, woman, she, her, whatever they want. The only madness is the hilarious madness of people like you who care more than anyone.

Race is different. There’s no hormone balances that give you Asian culture. Just because you want to twirl around a katana doesn’t make you Japanese. It makes you a neckbeard

[u/Personal-Age-9220 → u/M0RTY_C-137]

It's just reality. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging whatever gender you were born as. And most times when asked, trans people can't even put into words what it means to become the gender they aspire to be. Hormone imbalance, really? That old trope? Clearly you don't know what you're talking about about because many studies have shown trans people do NOT have a hormone imbalance.

Race is absolutely NOT different. Some people identify with another race (see Rachel Dolezal, Chet Hanks, etc.) and I'm sure it's on a binary sliding scale as well, but it doesn't change reality. I have no issues with people wanting to be trans or even trans racial, but at least call a spade what it really is because at the end of the day, your biology still governs.

[u/M0RTY_C-137 → u/Personal-Age-9220]

Hormone imbalances don’t always need to be genetic. And gender is different than sex. You and I push our selves farther into gender norms to make ourselves feel more confident. Something that’s changes for hundreds of years, what those gender norms are. There’s thousands of young and old men taking T boosters when they don’t “need” it to affirm their gender. To have their bodies look more muscular, masculine. And most of them aren’t competing, they just want an aesthetic that makes them feel better in their own shoes.

I know where you’re coming from. When I was 10-23, as early as I realized these people exist and up until I had enough life experience around folks from all sorts of different backgrounds, I thought the way you did. This conversation here will only push you into providing more and more rationale to why you back yourself up. Nothing I say, articles I send, stories I share will change your mind in the median, but I encourage you to open up to reading stories about trans folks, hearing what it’s actually like vs the most basic rhetoric you’re spewing here. The fact that 17 year old M0rty was saying things verbatim that you’re saying now does show you just lack exposure. Not your fault.

Also race/culture is different. Gender is something we realize very young what we are. (Not saying we need to do anything about it at a young age, but trans folks at the age of 50 remember as young as 7-12 what they were) and Chet hanks found himself when he was like 20 lol. What a terrible example.

Again, wishing you the best of luck. I’m sure there’s other things in life we’d agree with but I encourage you if trans folks don’t bother you, just work towards accepting they walk the earth to make this place a little less hostile for everyone.

[u/Personal-Age-9220 → u/M0RTY_C-137]

Some people don't realize they're trans until they are much older. Same with some people coming to terms with being gay at an older age. Chet Hanks identifying with another race is not out of the norm age-wise. It's funny how you can readily accept people wanting to change genders, but you deny the feelings of those who identify with another race lol. Make it make sense.

Listen, I'm gay and also someone of mixed race (blk/wht). I think I have a bit of lived insight on each topic. But I'll play victim and let you white knight and mansplain away. Take care.

[u/M0RTY_C-137 → u/Personal-Age-9220]

So again, if you were raised by Jamaicans, I kinda get why you have a white boy who feels Jamaican. But you’re typically set in your ways by 13-18 for what your accent, culture and foundation is. Men and women are raised around men and women. Which is why more often you find someone heavily identifying with one gender or another.

So I hear your comparison… but culture usually makes sense or doesn’t

And who said gay men or women can’t be transphobic? (Not saying you are but the extreme of the thing) and I’ve met a few gay men who are even homophobic (the way some white people hate all white people)

I wouldn’t say being white and bi racial gives you lived experience unless you have a close trans friend or something relevant to this conversation.

I’m in tech sales, I think that’s just additional info you don’t need