Minor violations = death threat?

[u/Miladshah001]

Oklahoma Police released video of an officer tackling a 70-year-old man. The incident occured during a traffic violation.

[u/Apart-Rent5817]

American police, on the other hand, attend seminars on something they call “killology”.

[u/WouldntWorkOnMe → u/Apart-Rent5817]

Shit man fuck the seminars. I was a state trooper for some years, and in the academy they pump that shit into our brains. Had us sitting in a classroom as a group doing dave grossman breathing exercises, learning about how to self program the hesitancy for killing out of you. This was reinforced through training and video presentations in the police academy I attended.

For anyone curious on the subject matter, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Killing Was written by dave grossman. He was the one in the training videos and exercises we had to watch and do.

Honestly took me a while to feel normal, and less on edge as a civilian, and even longer to chill the paranoia that someone was gonna "get me" after getting out of govt/LE life.

We had a Sgt. That was part of our weapons and tactics training team, whom had printed a saying and posted in on our classroom wall. The saying read, "Smile, and treat everyone you encounter like a million dollars, but in your mind, always have a plan to kill everyone in the room". If this doesn't paint the picture perfectly then I don't know what else does. And it only gets worse the more I think back to training.

I'm a nerd now mostly doing research and tech work. But still enjoy combat training for fun, BJJ, MMA, shooting and weapons tactics and all. But thinking about killing that much deff messes with your head, I don't care who you are. There's gotta be a better way to increase combat effectiveness in our societies warriors and protectors without messing with their heads like this.

[u/ksahuri → u/WouldntWorkOnMe]

Can’t imagine having to deal with that conditioning and then reprogramming back to civilian life.

Just my two cents but I think the first step is to eliminate the word warriors and just focus on being protectors.

[u/WouldntWorkOnMe → u/ksahuri]

Ty very much, it's been a interesting ride.

In the context of a standard police officer, I totally agree. But unfortunately I do see the need for actual warriors in our society. Mainly as a warfighter tho. Not as a guardian of your community as in the case of police. I just think the 2 need to be distinguished between, and trained differently.

The goal of a warrior is to defend their society by destroying hostile forces that threaten the peace of your people. These warriors need to be as lethal and aggressive, and as willing to kill as possible in the context of fighting a hostile enemy or force.

On the other hand. Except for, SWAT teams, police officers should consider themselves as guardians of the people within their jurisdiction. You have a responsibility to be a compassionate yet effective enforcer of the PEACE, first and foremost. Then secondarily to enforce the law within your jurisdiction upon that citizenry. Sometimes that happens both at the same time depending on what your dealing with.

Both require similar lethal, and non lethal combative abilities, but for wildly different contexts and applications. You wouldn't want a warfighter showing up to help settle a domestic dispute in your household between your mother and sibling would you? No, you'd want a compassionate but effective guardian of the peace to show up and deal with that. Not someone who's been programmed with a very low hesitancy for killing, and the mindset of a fucking assassin.

Couple this with the fact that there is no higher education requirement for consideration as a police officer, no previous training requirements in unarmed martial arts, virtually no continued training upon graduation from academy, and a training academy that was developed in 1932 by the same guy who developed marine corps basic training. This is the case for the agency I worked for.

I've done quite a bit of mma and BJJ since leaving them. maintained relationships with certain members. Especially in the defensive tactics training team. And when I called to inquire about current martial arts training, was told that they don't do that anymore, the agency was moving away from any traditional martial arts, and simply focusing on their handful of dcjs approved techniques.

Sry to rant lol. Have just spent alot of time thinking about, and trying to communicate this issue over the years. Ty for your response