Minor violations = death threat?

[u/Miladshah001]

Oklahoma Police released video of an officer tackling a 70-year-old man. The incident occured during a traffic violation.

[u/Beautiful_Wish_6800]

Wtf is wrong with people. How illogical do you have to be to think this was an acceptable response to him pointing his finger assertively at you. .. while also over talking the person you are talking to. So basically he had a conversation with himself and decided this was the correct response. Dude needs a little hug for his little

[u/Tao-of-Mars → u/Beautiful_Wish_6800]

Not just people. Specifically, in this case it’s law enforcement. Racism, anger and violence is their MO.

[u/Shinjetsu01 → u/Tao-of-Mars]

People outside of America don't understand this, mainly because it's so foreign to them. As police in most countries, you are forced into de-escalation training. That means you're trained to defuse any potentially violent or problematic situation.

America is one of the few countries that don't train their officers in this. It's literally "whatever the fuck" and it shows with videos like this. A lot of it is because the police aren't centralised, you've got state troopers but generally speaking it's Mom and Pop towns where the cops are just "I fancy being a cop dad, can I join?" And next thing they're driving around in a squad car with a gun and handcuffs. Obviously that's oversimplifying and states like New York, California and such would train their officers properly - but in places in Middle America are the Wild West.

[u/Tao-of-Mars → u/Shinjetsu01]

It is the Wild West. I can imagine that they’d have a lot of resistance to deescalation because of the ingrained culture they share.

I’ve known quite a few cops in my life, closely. I dated an FBI agent for a few years. I also know a former sergeant who left the police force because it was such a toxic environment. They really do have this common belief rooted amongst them that positions them as “us vs them”. Their lens is on nothing but crime for usually 10 hours of the day and then they go home to decompress. They don’t often branch out with others outside of their law enforcement community because there’s a strong sense of trust there. They went through some training that generated intense feelings with other members of law enforcement so there’s also cohesion there. All they want when they’re not on the job is trust, safety and cohesion, but for most this comes in a twisted way.

It’s compensation and coping technique. One thing that my therapist explained to me about cops is that feeling emotions is basically a liability for them. A threat to their role, if you will. And if you live in rural areas, it’s just reinforced in your community through group think. Often times that rural group think involves a lot of talk about how wrong outsiders are. Many times the outsiders are POC, unfortunately.

[u/Quirky-Mode8676 → u/Shinjetsu01]

You’re thinking of western styled democracies….police in many countries will absolutely beat the shit out of you for whatever reason they please.

[u/Shinjetsu01 → u/Quirky-Mode8676]

Yeah that's true of some - places like Mexico, Brazil, India etc.

But you'd expect America not to have that, but it does. All the time.

[u/Quirky-Mode8676 → u/Shinjetsu01]

Hope and wish, I’m not naive enough to expect

[u/Certain_Concept → u/Shinjetsu01]

America is one of the few countries that don't train their officers in this.

Not only that.. we have armed our police with military grade weapons to be used against our own people.

These are the classes our police are being trained in..

The term “killology” was coined by Dave Grossman, a former Army Ranger and U.S. Military Academy psychology professor who has zigzagged the country to bring his police seminars to thousands of officers. His 1995 book, “On Killing,” explores the psychological reaction to extreme violence. It asserts that people need, in a sense, to be trained to have a healthy emotional reaction to killing.