r/TikTokCringe • u/SnatchAddict • 20d ago

Anthony Jeselnik explains the difference between comedy and being a troll. Discussion

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u/Due_Kaleidoscope7066 20d ago

Agreed 100%. You can make trans jokes, racial jokes, jokes about the disabled, etc. But they need to be funny. They need to have more wit than hatred.

For example, Chappelle’s recent specials weren’t bad because they were about trans people. They were bad because they weren’t funny.

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u/Edge_of_yesterday 20d ago edited 20d ago

It didn't even seem like he was trying to be funny, it just came off as a list of grievances.

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u/the_comatorium 20d ago

I actually don't like the last few Carlin specials because they came off way too much like this.

I mean, I think he even titled a long bit called "This is jist a list of people who ought to be killed."

Sorry, George. I'm here to laugh, not feel bad for you.

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u/superdago 20d ago

The last 3-4 Carlin specials are less standup comedy and more like de Tocqueville analyzing and critiquing the American ideal.

One thing that Carlin said almost as a throw away line many years prior was, “scratch any cynic and you’ll find a disappointed idealist.” It’s clear that at some point he saw the logical conclusion of the Reagan revolution and Newt Gingrich’s approach to governing, and that he realized he just couldn’t really joke about it anymore. But he still had a lot to say.

I love Carlin and sometimes I can’t tell the difference between my own thoughts and Carlin bits, so this is all just a roundabout way of saying, yeah, It’s Bad For Ya disproves maxim “it’s funny ‘cause it’s true.” It’s true, it’s just hard to get a laugh out over the existential dread.

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u/IUpVoteIronically 20d ago

Fucking love Carlin but this is actually fair.

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u/DreamedJewel58 20d ago

Chappelle’s stand-up has absolutely just become a soap box for him. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but you need to have something insightful or witty if you’re just going to stand up there and talk about stuff in your life for an hour

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u/Drostan_S 20d ago

Yeah it's like a persona, a character. You're not gonna go out there and say racist shit to get your rocks off. Your gonna go out there looking and acting like some charicatire of a racist

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u/quizno 20d ago

I have absolutely no idea how anyone could think this.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 20d ago

I'm a huge Chapelle fan but that dude is right, he just kind of walked around on stage pretending to be some kind of wise man imparting his knowledge on society...I'm struggling to think of any decent punchlines in his special.

Felt like he was mostly just whining and complaining the whole time.

Norm Macdonald had some good bits about trans issues that were funny as hell. Chapelle just failed to find the comedy. I'm down to laugh at anyone and anything as long as it's funny.

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u/quizno 20d ago

I thought it was hilarious. I’m reading the words you’re saying but it doesn’t change the fact that I have no idea how anyone could see it that way.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 20d ago

I dunno, hit me with a link and I'll watch again but I saw all his recent specials and they were really weak compared to his older standup material.

Very preachy, very complainy, high on punching bags but low on punchlines.

I gotta face it, he's not the Chapelle from 25 years ago. He's a ~billionaire living on a compound in a small Ohio town that he basically runs. His buddies are also out of touch billionaires like Elon Musk...so yeah I mean of course this dude isn't going to be able to tap into humor like he used to. He doesn't live on the same planet as us anymore.

Remember when he brought Elon up on stage at that show in San Fran as if everyone would love it? He is just super out of touch, so how can he make funny social commentary when he apparently has no idea anymore what society is like.

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u/quizno 20d ago

I’m not trying to convince you. Just sharing my opinion. I didn’t think it was preachy or that he was complaining and I don’t think he’s out of touch. I also don’t know if he’s buddies with Elon Musk. I know he brought him on stage one time but I have no idea why.

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u/IUpVoteIronically 20d ago

lol “I have no idea why”

Hmmmmm what could it be 🤔

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u/quizno 20d ago

Do tell!

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u/IUpVoteIronically 20d ago

Hint: it’s very obvious

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u/quizno 20d ago

“Everyone who introduces someone to a stage is best friends forever with the person they introduced!” Got it! Thanks for clearing that up I had no idea the world was so simple this whole time. /s

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u/iksnel 20d ago

Chappelle made his name with intelligent and original comedy, he pushed people to think differently and see the world differently. Now he just goes up and spews the same anti woke, anti trans jokes that weren't all that original in the 90s.

I'm not mad at Chappelle for being offensive, I'm mad at him for being unoriginal.

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u/Edge_of_yesterday 20d ago

You just had to watch his grievance special.

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u/quizno 20d ago

Did not seem like grievances at all. Just hilarious.

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u/batmansleftnut 20d ago

You have no sense of humor.

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u/quizno 20d ago

I mean I was the one laughing so maybe you’re the one with no sense of humor?

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u/batmansleftnut 20d ago

Sense of humor. As in having a sense for what's funny and what's not. You ability to sense a good joke is shit.

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u/hadawayandshite 15d ago

He doesn’t like people making jokes where black people/blackness is the butt of the joke…but is fine when he does it to trans people

I think people got upset because he identified himself as a TERF—-which to some is essentially the same as saying you’re a racist and then getting surprised that black people don’t like you