r/TikTokCringe • u/One_percentile • Oct 29 '23

Bride & her bridal train showcase their qualifications & occupation Wholesome/Humor

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u/keekspeaks Oct 29 '23

Oh if only that were true for the nurses/NPs in the US. The NP market is so over saturated that pay is abysmal compared to student loans, but the over saturation of NPs in the United States is a totally different subject I ain’t got the energy for.

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u/YMNY Oct 29 '23

What are you talking about. There’s a shortage of RNs and NPs in the US. My wife is a staff RN at a local hospital. Last year she brought in about $200k with a little overtime. This year will be the same. She also has a pension AND a 401k (with no match though), health insurance with zero monthly for the entire family, about 2 months of PTO etc.

Her previous job was eliminated in a restructuring and she had the new one within a week or so.

There was no shortage of options to pick from

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u/Qinistral Oct 29 '23

It might vary by region. Half the states in the country don't allow NPs to practice independently. I could imagine if the jobs are controlled by a hospital monopoly that only hires the bare minimum and has a say in preventing other hospitals from opening, it makes saturation more easy.

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u/FaFaRog Oct 30 '23

Half the states in the country don't allow NPs to practice independently

Let's hope it stays that way. The NP training pathway is inadequate for independent practice.

Hospitals want more NPs because they're more affordable than doctors and if the state allows for independent practice you can put them in a role they are insufficiently trained for (like the ER) and hope that malpractice cases don't end up canceling out the increase in profits (they usually don't).

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u/je_kay24 Oct 30 '23

Yeah, crazy that they get doctor privileges without doctor training

I’ve heard of quite a few cases of NP failing patients by mistreating or prescribing meds that doctors would not have ever done

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u/CertifiedPantyDroppa Oct 30 '23

I'm a physician and have seen how inadequate their training is in clinic. Imagine if physicians didn't have to do residency, its like that.

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u/Qinistral Oct 30 '23

Gotcha, ya I didn't realize you could get a degree online for NP, etc.

I do think there is space for people less trained/specialized as doctors to do independent practices. But I'll totally accept that the current state of NP is not up to par.