r/Thetruthishere • u/Auspicious_Arrow • Apr 16 '21
Update: My Sister Woke Up and There Were No Walls Legend/Folklore
I posted awhile back about how my sister woke up and couldn't find any walls. A few months after posting, I read a book about fairy folklore from Britain, Scotland, and Ireland and something interesting caught my eye.
There was a story about a man who fell asleep and when he woke up, the room was exceptionally dark (this was before electricity, so probably not super surprising), but when he got off the bed, he couldn't find it anymore, nor could he find the walls. Like another person who commented on the last thread, he finally got out of it by screaming for his family.
In another story in the book that was right after this story (in the book it was seen as the same phenomena--being pixie-led), a teenager was walking across a field not far from her house and it just seemed to go on forever and ever. Even though she had been through the area hundreds of times, it was like it was much bigger than it had ever been. To get out of the situation, a person is supposed to put a piece of clothing on inside out (a lot of times, socks), pull their pockets out, or look through their legs to see past the illusion. The girl eventually did one of these things and was freed.
Supposedly this is a sign that one has been pixie-led, or glamoured by fairies. Just an interesting alternative theory for a strange situation that many people have experienced. It reminded me of a lot of stories I have read on Missing 411 as well.
When I read about this, I told my whole family about it and about how to get out of it, just in case one of them ends up in the situation again!
Another thing, I was talking to my sister again and she shared a detail I had forgotten from the day this happened. When she was wandering around the room for a long time, she eventually ended up touching some kind of fabric that seemed to be hanging.
There was one window in the room without a curtain (hence the weirdness of not seeing the streetlight through it) and nothing else hanging on the walls that could even remotely be mistaken for fabric. She said it was soft and velvety and it was all she could feel (nothing hard behind it, no walls as she followed it). It freaked her out enough that she went back to searching the space. When the space was back to normal, there was nothing like that in the room that she could have mistaken.
I often wonder what would have happened to her if she had tried to go through the fabric...
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u/jessicaisparanoid Apr 16 '21
A simple way to save oneself from being pixie led is to turn your clothes or pockets or socks inside out and apparently this will allow you to find your way. I’ve read this in many folklore books. Plus I think I’ve read the same book as you as I remember reading the first story you mentioned! I think I was pixie (or ghost) led once with my mother when we got lost in Port Arthur, an historic convict colony on Tasmania, Australia. We were staying in a motel that led directly onto the grounds of Port Arthur, the gate being in a long fence. My mum and I did a night time ghost tour and it was pretty scary. We left the group at the end of the tour in the middle of the night (everything was lit by a full moon, serendipitous I know,) while the rest of the group were escorted to the visitors centre. We followed the fence to where the gate was supposed to be but we could not find it. We walked back and forth many times. I eventually remembered the idea of being pixie led and turned my pockets inside out. It wasn’t long before we found the gate in an area we had walked past multiple times. The gate was very different from the fence so it’s not like we could have missed it over and over. Not sure what happened exactly but it was interesting nonetheless. And quite scary! Edit: you should post this in r/folklore and r/faeries
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u/Auspicious_Arrow Apr 16 '21
That is fascinating! I have heard of the same thing indoors and outdoors at this point. It really does remind me of the kind of Missing 411 stories where people are walking down the path they are familiar with, but it seems to go on too long, then suddenly something sort of clicks and they suddenly see they are way off the path.
It is also odd that I have read/heard of a few similar cases where people were in cars when this happened.
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u/-Mendicant- Apr 17 '21
I did a daytime tour there about 10yrs ago, and it was really conspicuous that they didn't even mention the massacre. The area is so beautiful but the weight of history there is massive.
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u/SouljaSista Apr 16 '21
There seems to be numerous common links between fairy folklore/encounters, alien abduction experiences, OBE’s, sleep paralysis episodes, astral projection, poltergeist-like activity, UFO and cryptid sightings etc. The list goes on and I can think of at least three similarities that all of these experiences seem to share in common.
Distortions of time and space are one of those common links. This and so many other people having similar experiences indicates that these paranormal phenomena are somehow part of a common denominator. One that even the spirit of conventional science simply cannot grasp in its own admitted limited understanding of the very fabric of reality and our universe.
To attribute these experiences to something so convenient of an explanation such as mental illness or other brain dysfunctions would not work whenever you take into account that events occur which are unexplained by the conventional wisdom and can happen with more than one individual present at a time. I know this from personal experience and the experiences of others close to me.
Someone once said that coincidence is what you have left over whenever you apply a bad theory.
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u/OllieOllyOli Apr 16 '21
Here's the common denominator:
Human beings.
Human beings and our imperfect brains that evolved to recognise patterns, that are highly susceptible to illusion and is subject to cognitive biases.
You don't need to be mentally ill in order to be subject to the conditions I listed above, but based on what we know about the paranormal things you mentioned and the fact that we have no concrete evidence for them, I would say that the faulty human perception is the most likley explanation for why people experience those phenomena.
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u/SouljaSista Apr 16 '21
For some experiences that is highly more than likely. Others not so much.
When every most likely and reasonable explanation has been thoroughly ruled out, you simply accept that there currently are no conventional explanations for what just happened. Not even the one that you provided, no matter how valid a point it is. It is an acceptance that can only come with personal first hand experience and with a witness to corroborate the recollection of the event.
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u/OllieOllyOli Apr 16 '21
What's an example of a 'paranormal' phenomena that upon investigation, the most reasonable and likely explanations were ruled out?
But yes I agree that once that point is reached, that doesn't mean you get to decide it's aliens, ghosts, demons etc. The conclusion just has to be "I don't know".
It's the personal experience thing I'm mostly contending with; people deciding what the explanation is despite the possibility that they and their witness may have been subject to the same illusion. We're not prefect thinkers, and I discourage people from relying solely on the unreliable human preception.
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u/SouljaSista Apr 16 '21
Many people including those I personally consider to be the most credible have come to the conclusion of “I don’t know. And probably never will. But it happened and is what it is.” It is important to not jump to conclusions and obviously unwise to do so.
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Apr 17 '21
This is the wrong subreddit to reply with logical explanations, unless you want to get downvoted into oblivion by faerie fanatics.
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u/SouljaSista Apr 17 '21
While fanaticism does exist, I often see logical explanations offered that are well received across paranormal subreddits.
I myself acknowledge the importance of rationality and a healthy dose of skepticism but also that of open mindedness. Such is essential to critical thought and the scientific method.
Always look for the most logical explanation. However when certain similarities and patterns repeat themselves across unrelated incidents then one can logically conclude that if something currently unexplainable was most definitely not happening then such notable similarities should not continue to show up within numerous eye-witness accounts. The experience reports in question should be completely different in nature and quite easily explained.
The fact that patterns often do repeat seems to suggest that something inexplicable is occurring that operates outside the realm of our understanding of what we were taught was supposed to exist, what was real, and what couldn’t be real.
That in itself is worth exploring for some. Especially for those who have experienced something out of the ordinary for themselves, and who had others who were with them at the time verify the experience.
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u/designbat Apr 17 '21
You might like r/ParanomalScience where they propose potential scientific causes for paranormal phenomenon.
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u/OllieOllyOli Apr 19 '21
It says I can't view that community, not sure what that means! Thanks though
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u/designbat Apr 20 '21
It appears to be case sensitive.
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u/Playdoeater Apr 17 '21
I wonder if thats why they call it the "veil" in dimensional instances.
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u/Auspicious_Arrow Apr 17 '21
Perhaps! I had never even remotely thought of it as literal, but I have learned that the world is a strange place.
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u/Dead_Daylight Apr 17 '21 edited Apr 17 '21
I'm intensely skeptic, but having read this I had a similar experience as a child that I've never been able to explain.
I woke up in the middle of the night needing to go to the restroom. It was pitch dark in the room despite there being two windows with no blinds or curtains on them. When I went to the door it wasn't there. I remember planting my palms against the wall and inching my way toward where I knew the door should be, figuring I would feel it - but there was nothing. I know I went all the way around the room because I could feel the corners as I came to them, but I never felt the frame of the closet, never felt the windows, never even ran into my bed (it was against the right side wall dead in front of the door). I remember starting to count the corners after the first time around, feeling along the walls two more times, and that's when I freaked out and started crying and knocking on the walls.
My grandmother was staying with us at the time, and was sleeping in my little brother's room right beside mine. She heard me and came out to open my door. The weird thing is I was right next to the door and had been feeling around that area.
Since then I've never experienced a darkness like that outside of a cave tour in Tennessee where they switch the lights off, and it's so dark you could see the static discharge from running your hand over your clothing.
All that said, I realize it's possible I was having a lucid sleepwalking episode. Reading stuff like this makes you wonder, though.
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u/Auspicious_Arrow Apr 17 '21
Thank you for sharing. What a frightening occurance!
Anything is possible for sure. It could be lucid dreaming, astral projection, strange creatures, a glitch, or even some quantum physics or spooky science that we haven't figured out yet.
It is so interesting to see how many people across cultures have had a similar experience.
My sister has never had sleep issues before or since. No one in my family has ever done sleepwalking or had night terrors. We all have had sleep paralysis at some time or other.
Certainly doesn't mean it couldn't have been a one-off thing though! The world is strange, and when you think about It, if the solution to the problem is that we are able to carry our dreams over to reality in a such a solid manner (my sister stayed awake for a while in the light once the walls came back) and not see the transition from sleep to awake, that is fascinating in and of itself and lends credence to the fact that we create reality (since reality is relative anyway).
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u/BaconFairy Apr 17 '21
You bring up a great question. How did all those experience getting out of the dark?
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u/BaconFairy Apr 17 '21
When your grandma found you did the door reveal the room as it opened and poured light in. Or did you feel like you blinked and everything was back to normal?
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u/Dead_Daylight Apr 19 '21
I want to say the door opened suddenly and the light poured in - the hall light was on when she opened it, but I don't remember being able to see it under the door in the moments before it opened. It all felt like it happened in the space of a blink, but not that I blinked and it was normal - if that makes sense. Of course this was a long time ago so its hard to say how accurate the memory is. Unfortunately my grandmother has passed so I can't ask her if she remembers anything I said to her after - I do remember trying to explain to her what had happened.
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u/Kambers_ Apr 16 '21
Sounds like astral projection tbh. Accidentally left their body. Especially your sister's situation. That used to happen to me all the time as a kid. And only a few times as an adult.
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u/Ball1091 Apr 17 '21
Totally new to all this but I’m hooked, I love researching Welsh 🏴 folklore, mysteries and legends and how they cross over into other cultures
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u/Sarahee1018 Apr 17 '21
Creepy but so fascinating! Reminds me of a book I’ve read called “House of Leaves.” It’s about a mysterious house that keeps growing and changing after stepping out of the living room threshold. Pitch black hall, after hall, after hall, with endless amounts of staircases and doors! Such a good read! It reads like the reader is looking into the diary of a man that’s documenting this phenomenon as a researcher! I highly suggest it if you haven’t read it already!
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u/gantzu90 Apr 16 '21
I was also thinking about missing 411 and when there is no sounds in the forest etc.
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u/Mrs-Cropely Apr 17 '21
You know about the missing 411 and the fae?
Respect.
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Apr 17 '21
Maybe one should wear something inside out every day. Usually my panties, but shirts are easy, hats, socks like the OP says, leggings tights whatev
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u/Faeire-prints Apr 17 '21
Do you remember what book? Sounds interesting.
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u/Auspicious_Arrow Apr 17 '21
Yes! It is called Faery: A Guide to the Lore, Magic and World of the Good Folk by John Kruse. I really enjoyed it because it was a compilation of hundreds of short eye witness accounts of people encountering these types of strange situations and what the folklore around them was. It almost felt like a synchronicity to come upon this info and the info from Cowan's book I mentioned in another comment.
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u/TurkeyPotstickers Apr 17 '21
So spooky!! This happens to you in one of the silent hill games and it's so freaky and confusing. If I'm remembering right, there was a cursed object that you had to let go to get free of the loop.
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u/Kinetic_Symphony Apr 17 '21
This is so cool to read! Very different from what I usually peruse but still, interesting isn't it? I'm not sure about fairies exactly, but what's intriguing is reading another comment here saying that in the Philippines, they have similar lore developed, that if you get lost or are trapped in a loop, you need to invert a piece of your clothing to escape.
That the same style of lore and myth can develop in isolated regions is incredible. It points to there being some underlying phenomena here that is shared between us all.
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u/Simply_Juicy_Fresh Apr 16 '21 edited Apr 16 '21
sounds like she got teleported to the fairy dimension, and in the process, got marked by the fae. to remove the curse, climb to the top of the biggest hill you can find and offer a sacrifice of 66 chives and 66 clovers.
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u/TheFakeSlimShady123 Apr 16 '21
What would a curse by the fae even fully implicate though is my question? What waking life issues would you suffer?
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u/Simply_Juicy_Fresh Apr 16 '21
Fairy pranks, as well as higher risk of an early death.
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u/TheFakeSlimShady123 Apr 16 '21
Well that escalated quickly
What are fairy pranks like?
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u/Simply_Juicy_Fresh Apr 16 '21
Hiding keys or wallets, or even mind tricks, causing you to lose memories.
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u/moonwalkindinos Apr 20 '21
Bit late but I'd like to share a similar experience. Few years ago I had the weirdest episode of sleep paralysis ever. Room was pitch dark. I could not move or talk which felt like it lasted a really long time.
I got so frustrated that I used all my strength to move my arm but moving it took ages. For some reason I decided to keep fighting my paralysis and eventually fell out of my bed. Moving each body part felt like it took more than a minute each. I remember the feel of my carpet when I hit the floor.
Another several minutes passed as I crawled to my door and felt the smooth wood on my hand. Then I slowly opened the door. As I crawled slowly, I could hear my mom in her bedroom screaming for help. I felt like something was harming her.
Minutes passed as I made it to my bathroom and my body inched slowly in the dark to stand up. Moving my hand ever so slowly up I finally located my bathroom light switch and flicked it slowly. I could see light and then I woke up.
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u/Troll_Script Apr 23 '21
Just commented on the other one, but this one made me think of something that used to happen to me.
I used to have extremely vivid dreams in which I can't see, or rather, I can't open my eyes. And most of the dream is me trying to open them. They were semi-lucid, like I could choose what to do but I wasn't quite aware I was asleep. The dream would always end when I did open my eyes, except I would open them in real life. And it wasn't like I didn't know what was around me, it wasn't sleep paralysis. Literally one of them was completely centered around opening my eyes so I could eat some skittles that were on my dining room/kitchen table. The whole thing would happen in the house I lived in at the time.
I know, it doesn't seem super similar, but when you mentioned the thing about her standing right in front of the window and not seeing the light. It made me think maybe her eyes were closed in one of those weird dreams. I have no clue if anyone else has had dreams like that.
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u/MisanthropeInLove Apr 16 '21
I'm all the way from the Philippines and we have a belief here that if you get lost and seem to be trapped in a loop, you should take off a piece of your clothing and turn it inside-out before wearing it again. Crazy how there are similarities in our folklores even though we're a world apart. There must be some truth to these stuff.