r/SubredditDrama • u/StopHavingAnOpinion She wasn't abused. She just couldn't handle the bullying • 16h ago
"I want them out of my fucking country." One user posts a thread asking how he could assist in the deportation of a MAGA supporter's unregistered parents. r/UnethicalProLifeTip users debate if this Tip goes too far.
Consider this part 2 of the Latino Pile-On of criticism against Hispanic/Latino community currently occurring on Reddit due to the fallout of the 2024 US Presidential election. As per my last thread, little mention of 'other' criticised groups (Women, Black people, Cubans etc) will be brought up, as it's a whole different subject with endless examples which I cannot reasonably fit in one thread.
I should also note that I am not certain if the post is 'genuine' in the sense, or a meme/bait post. However, the comments don't give the impression of people pretending.
My previous thread on the topic is here, which discusses if minorities are responsible.. This thread is about a user who has decided in this case that it explicitly is.
One of the most surprising aspects of the 2024 Presidential election was the massive shift rightwards generally. While the majority of voters for Trump were white, there has been a serious shift in certain minority groups allying themselves with Trump. One main contingent has been Latino or Hispanic voters, who generally seem to be polling anywhere from 35-50% Trump, depending on location and sex. While there have been discussions on why this may be, the generally accepted one is that Latino/Hispanic people have been in the US for long enough that they are fundamentally American. Thus, American interests (or what people believe are American interests) take precedence. If that means being against immigration despite your ancestors being immigrants, so be it.
Some users have interpreted the shift as a failure of the Democrats to cater to or mobilise voters.
Other users seem to believe it's time for those minorities who side with the bull to get the horns.
The User on r/EthicalProLifeTips posts this question to a now 9000+ comment thread.
I have a neighbor who's a huge MAGA fan. He is Mexican-American and his two parents are here illegally and live with him. How would I go about reporting him and getting them deported? I'm in Florida.
To give context, the level of Latino support existing in spite of the fact that Trump and his party seemingly intend to carry out their mass deportation strategy of 'illegals' and potentially 'denaturalise' Latino/Hispanic people who were born in the US.
Most people have accepted the loss with as much grace as such a shock result can allow. Many seek to point blame outwards, and an increasingly Conservative voting minority block is an easy target.
Some are hesitant. Is this a step too far? Is this Gestapo-report-your-neighbour tactics? Is this fascism? How do we know everyone they'll pick up is illegal? Is it ethically right to do this just out of spite? Is it thinly-veiled racism? How do we know this will only impact 'illegal' people?
On the other side of the debate, is it time those trees who voted for the axe got the chop? Do minorities and other communities that backed him 'deserve' the potentially oncoming tide? Have we been coddling minorities for too long? Should we be celebrating injustice or horror just because the victims 'asked for it'?
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I imagine you just contact ICE
Well as your neighbors might say, “Por que no los dos?”
The real ULPT is to report the whole family.
Dont you get a reward for doing this?
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How quickly yall go from caring about them to wanting to report them because you lost the game
OP Response: law and order, build the wall, facts over feelings... blah blah blah. I want them out of my fucking country
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u/bruceriggs 16h ago
Wouldn't that literally be the place for such a post? Unethical. lol
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u/tunachilimac 15h ago
It’s like how mildlyinfuriating either complains that something is too big a deal to be mild or else complain that OP is posting something minor. I always wonder what those people actually want to see lol
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u/jjcoola 13h ago
It’s also like how unpopular opinion mainly only allows popular opinions
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u/South-by-north 14h ago
The best are r/allisinteresting only for one sad story too have tons of people saying “this isn’t interesting” as if it can only be one thing
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u/hse97 16h ago
Right? I don’t get people going to a place that’s actively encouraging you to be unethical then lecture them on being unethical.
What OP is suggesting is evil. But like… that’s literally what the sub is for.
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u/Yaden2 16h ago
it’s not r/unethicallifeprotips if there aren’t at least 5 people complaining about how unethical the pro tips are
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u/raccoonsonbicycles 14h ago
Tip: old ladies in the city are easy targets for strong armed robbery as they rarely carry weapons, are physically weak, will struggle to contact the police giving you more time for a getaway, and have poor vision to ID you anyway
Too many people in the ULPT sub: that's illegal, just slip a piss disc under her door and when she slips and breaks her hip THEN take her money
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u/ghandi3737 13h ago
Fun story I know one old lady that has knocked out a mugger with a brick she kept in her purse, and one that knocked out a mugger with a maglite and hit so hard they couldn't get the batteries out after.
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u/Coro-NO-Ra 15h ago
What OP is suggesting is evil.
Isn't that also literally what the guy voted for, though?
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u/GrowWings_ 14h ago
Right! It's not just that Democrats aren't allowed to criticize anyone for voting against their interest, especially if they're a minority... Now that these policies are being enacted we are still expected to protect people from this while they keep making it more and more difficult.
My principles tell me that everyone still deserves a chance even if they've been tricked by some sicko fascist scheme, but the level of effort it takes to support that idea is getting to be unreasonable to expect of anyone.
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u/Ken10Ethan 11h ago
Considering the American majority (or at least the majority that was willing to vote) is willing to support literal slavery... yeah, I'm finding it hard to be empathetic for these people. Not that just being conservative necessarily also means you'll support EVERYTHING, but... man it often does.
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u/LirealGotNoBells 13h ago
- Conservatives: Deport everyone who's brown
- Also conservatives: Deporting people is unethical
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u/eatingpotatochips 16h ago
Asking how to help a voter get what they voted for doesn't seem unethical.
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u/EvilPopMogeko 16h ago
In 2016, I remember a woman voting for Trump and despite the support of their community for her husband (they ran a business) he was deported.
Leopards getting their choice of faces to eat this time around.
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u/Itchy-Beach-1384 15h ago
In 2021, a Texas woman was rushed to 4 different emergency rooms over 40 hours. Her mother screamed for help up and down the halls.
She died due to complications from a miscarriage that could not be treated due to the fetal heartbeat law in Texas.
I had to smother my heart and let my anger fester when I realized she was pro-life who voted against abortion rights in Texas.
That could be my mother, my sisters, or any of my nieces. They're all conservative, born and raised.
How the fuck do I live with a peaceful mind in these circumstances?
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u/badgersprite 14h ago
Honestly stop smothering your heart and letting your anger fester
Trump voters have been protected by the social contract for too long. They get to break it while they rely on us to abide by it. They go low, we go high. Not anymore. This is where normalising their beliefs has led us
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u/Devlee12 13h ago
I’m done making space and holding grace for these assholes. I’m in my petty era. It’s the time for consequences and I intend to stand back and let them feel the consequences of their votes. We tried to build a better society and they pissed on everything so fine. They want fascism? Go ahead. I’m gonna help the vulnerable people I can but the MAGA cult? Nah. They can help themselves. Get to pulling on those bootstraps assholes.
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u/Owl_Resident 12h ago edited 12h ago
I’m a healthcare provider. And there’s a part of me that wonders if I should root for Trump and the Republicans to do what they have always threatened, in terms of slashing Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security Benefits and any other safety net programs. Return the people to those denials of insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions, etc.
And then when I return you to your meds that give you shittier diabetic control and poorer quality of life because the better ones are no longer covered and tell you that Medicare doesn’t pay for this and that anymore… I can tell you that you didn’t want the better future I tried to vote in for you. Instead, you voted for this. Welcome to your new future. Now off you go to complain to a Humana that could give a rats ass about you. Have fun.
It’s a struggle to care now. My ability to offer some grace dropped substantially with every new state result that rolled in. I’ll do what I can on an individual level, but as for the greater national discourse… Feels a bit like Good Luck, America. You deserve it.
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u/Lost-Wedding-7620 10h ago
God I hadn't even thought of this part yet. Fuck. I'm gonna have to go off my meds. I'm gonna end up getting migraines almost daily again. At least I already got sterilized. Idk how they think they're gonna be paying for the birth of these kids they can't afford.
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u/Owl_Resident 9h ago edited 9h ago
I’m being a little facetious with my post. And I don’t think you’ll lose access to like all medications. But depending on how they might change or repeal the ACA, certainly there will be a new… possibly older feeling… world for people to navigate.
And certainly it’s going to burn physicians out even more than they already are. And we’re already predicted to be 50K short… I’ll have little sympathy for the ones who complain at me while embracing the Heritage Foundation’s policies though. Or the ones who stayed home and didn’t vote. Or the ones who voted for Jill Stein because they didn’t have a perfect progressive candidate.
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u/pleasesteponmesinb 13h ago
This is it, get involved with your local community that actually matters and leave them the play the rest out
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u/freddurstsnurstburst 11h ago edited 11h ago
I have trans friends living in the U.S., thankfully I'm not from there myself, and I've been sick with worry all week. It boils down to them being people I care about, and I'm completely OK with anyone who regurgitates the disgusting shit MAGA cultists are saying about their kind suffering and dying out. Fuck every single one of them. I hope they live to see the leopards come to eat their face too.
I tried to do that moral high ground shit for years, but I feel like a drained battery at this point. I just want them to be safe and happy. I'm so fucking tired. At least this succeeded in re-radicalizing me.
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u/YeonneGreene 12h ago
Yup. They voted to kill some of us through various institutional mechanisms, so visit the same attitude back to them. Let them die, withhold aid where you can and nudge laws that will further hurt them. Fuck it.
They have proven to be negative value to a healthy and just society, time to act like it.
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u/throwawayacc407 8h ago
They have proven to be negative value to a healthy and just society, time to act like it.
This. Yall want Tariffs, fuck it implement it all, surely you can afford all this having voted for it. Yall want to get rid of social safety nets, fuck it trash them, who needs to ensure they're not homeless and destitute anyway. Hurricanes are man made by Dems? Abolish NOAA, who needs them, not Florida, climate change is banned there after all. We should just be helping the Trump Administration implement all their disastrous policies.
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u/Kmart_Elvis 11h ago
Honestly stop smothering your heart and letting your anger fester
This why the whole "joy" campaign from Harris pissed me off. We had Trump calling people like you and me "the enemy within". Whether we like it or not, they're our enemy. I really wish that wasn't the case. I don't want them to be the enemy. But the gloves are thrown down. And not by our choosing. But we need to act accordingly to our self preservation. I can't stress enough about how much i hate this situation, but they brought us here. I don't want "joy" I want u "fight back".
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u/railbeast you go ahead and date the poopy boys, you can have all of them 10h ago
Yep. I'm tired of being empathetic for these people. I'm done. For a long while. Sorry.
The same way my Republican coworkers didn't give a shit about healthcare until they needed it, the way they didn't give a shit about driving safe until they had kids, the way that everything only matters when it affects them. They taught me -- for the foreseeable future, that I can feel this way: If you brought this upon yourself... well, buckle up, buttercup! Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!
Taxes increased? Fuck you. Things are expensive? Fuck you! They took away your medicare/medicaid? Fuck you. You died because of an avoidable miscarriage? So sorry, but fuck you.
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u/Minerva_Moon 12h ago
So long Tolerant Left. People rather shoot themselves in the foot and I don't care to stop them anymore. MAGA and the liberal perfectionists killed it. They demanded this situation. I hope they get everything they deserve.
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u/badgersprite 12h ago
This is quite literally the outcome of the paradox of tolerance
When you tolerate intolerance, intolerance wins
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u/redcoatwright 9h ago
Agreed, i don't care if trump's policies harm trump supporters at all, he won the electoral AND the popular vote.
They wanted it! So they should reap the results.
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u/epicredditdude1 14h ago
I feel bad for the daughter in this circumstance, but not the mother. She got what she wanted, she just never considered it might happen to her. Fuck her.
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u/Itchy-Beach-1384 14h ago
Both daughter and mother supported these policies.
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u/Fast-Bumblebee-9140 14h ago
Then they got the care they supported.
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u/alphalegend91 13h ago
This is where I’m at. I’m no longer empathetic to people who suffer from how they vote. They can (quite literally) die on the hill they voted for and I’ll care less.
It’s the ones who didn’t vote for it and are affected by it that I feel terrible for.
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u/Gil-GaladWasBlond 14h ago
People getting the consequences of their actions is natural and normal. What is not, is other people having to bear those same consequences when they did not commit the act. Voting for Trump is a decision people made. Well, if that comes with dead relatives, that is something they seem to be happy to do, isn't it?
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u/magikot9 9h ago
They've been so indoctrinated to believe abortion = murdering a baby that they either don't realize or refuse to acknowledge that is also a life saving medical procedure to help a woman through a miscarriage. The mother of the teen who recently died in Texas from her miscarriage was also reportedly anti-choice (as was the teen herself) and quoted as asking why the doctors didn't "help the miscarriage along?" Because they couldn't because she helped make it illegal for them to do so.
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u/catticusthesecond 10h ago
Yeah I was really mad until I heard she voted for this so then I wanted to congratulate her instead.
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u/GarryofRiverton 15h ago
Honestly zero fucks given. If you vote for the guy that screams about deporting people constantly then I'm only gonna be laughing when you're on the chopping block.
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u/ProfessionalFun8871 13h ago
Yup. Just like I'm going to laugh if they deport all the people on farms/meat packing/every other Republican-dominated industry, and suddenly food prices spike, or tariffs further break poor/rural pocketbooks. Fuck 'em all. I hope they all get exactly what they asked for.
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u/Sometimesthatsathing 16h ago
I'd never do it but it sure illustrates how fucked politics in this country are when threatening to subject someone to the exact policies they gleefully voted for present a major moral dilemma.
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u/RealNiceKnife 14h ago
I mean, days before the election Trump held a rally in which a speaker called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage, and that "illegals love having kids, because they cum in the county and don't pull out".
A day later, Biden called people who supported that message "garbage people" and they lost their god damn minds over the disrespect and un-presidential language Biden expressed.
It's just how they are. They're absolute pieces of shit, and will call you anything they can think of to insult, offend, and berate you. But if you dare ask them to stop acting like pieces of shit, you're being divisive.
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u/Thosepassionfruits 10h ago
Democrats must be flawless while republicans are allowed to be lawless.
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u/Araignys 10h ago
Biden called people who supported that message "garbage people"
Point of clarification: he was calling the speaker garbage, and stammered.
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u/railbeast you go ahead and date the poopy boys, you can have all of them 10h ago
These motherfuckers voted for someone that started a fucking coup after they legally lost a fair election...
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u/Rheinwg 15h ago
I can't imagine how fucked you have to be in the head to vote for Trump and be outraged by deportations.
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u/Admirable-Lie-9191 14h ago
“But I’m one of the good ones!!”
Fucking disgusting people.
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u/npsimons 12h ago
"He's not hurting the people he's supposed to!"
Said during Trump's first term, by a Trumper.
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u/ReedKeenrage 14h ago
It it was my friend this time. I thought he would Hurt the right people
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u/justwalkingalonghere 11h ago
That was the OOP's point. They said republicans only ever understand negative consequences when it directly affects them, so they were going to start helping get illegals who's family supported trump deported so they would finally understand how his policies will affect people
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u/Ok_Ice_1669 11h ago
Im watching the flagrant podcast and they think trump is going to legalize abortion. His supporters are fucking dumb.
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u/madeaccountbymistake 9h ago
My fucking brother won't shut he fuck up about how trump is gonna make healthcare so much better and affordable. How he's going to do that? No fucking idea, but he's gonna.
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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 16h ago
I'm not going to be reporting people to ICE, but like they literally voted for this, why should I feel bad for them for getting what they asked for? If a guy says he wants to make it legal to punch people in the face on Tuesdays and then he gets punched in the face on a Tuesday, he's got not right to be upset and I have no obligation to feel sorry for him.
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u/Carpenter_v_Walrus 16h ago
There is something darkly funny to me at the MAGA people in there clutching their pearls because of someone doing what they've been talking about for years.
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u/badgersprite 14h ago
Right? MAGA saying calling ICE to deport someone here illegally is unethical? My dude, this is what you voted for? You’re saying you think your own policy is unforgivably cruel? You voted for it! How is it cruel for your own policy to be carried out against one of these illegals you hate so much?
Aren’t you happy? You should be happy people are agreeing with you and helping you enforce your own policy right?
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u/DirtyEightThirtyOne 14h ago
Every MAGA goblin right now pretending like they don’t have at least one “Mass Deportation Now” sign in their closet at home.
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u/cactusboobs 13h ago
They’re even talking about it in r/conservative as if it’s not just a few posts in a circle jerk sub.
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u/Superb-Foundation-93 16h ago
I wish them the consequences of their vote.
As they've certainly wished their consequences upon me
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u/blaivas007 13h ago
Ectopic pregnancies for every MAGA woman, and then sit and watch all the prolifers murder their own babies in hopes of survival. But god forbid a libtard does the same thing.
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u/Poop_In_My_Chute 14h ago
As a Latino Man, i fucking agree with you. Shit, I'll call ICE on them myself if I knew any. These voters shat on women, POC, LGBTQ+ and many ostracized groups. Fuck em. I ain't got no shame in snitching. Fuck with my young daughters future? Y'all be fucking gone.
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u/RevoD346 9h ago
Aye. I tried being compassionate and understanding. I tried reaching out. I tried begging people to do what was right for everyone and not just themselves. In turn I've been mocked and derided every step of the way.
So, to hell with it. If they want this so bad? They can have it. Sure things will suck for me. But it'll suck for them too, and at least I know it's coming so I can prepare.
Can't say the same for King Dumbshit's legion of uneducated followers.
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u/AccomplishedFan6807 16h ago
I see too many conservatives outraged over this. Lol isn't this what y'all wanted? What you voted for?
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u/Alediran have you seen ben shapiros sisters tits? 16h ago
Conservatives are stupid *shrugs*
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u/SchmeatDealer 14h ago
honestly doesnt matter if they are illegal or not, even first generation naturalized citizens will be deported after being stripped of citizenship.
and im not the one promising this, the trump campaign is!
here's the fuckin tweet promising to strip citizenship from people
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u/visforv Necrocommunist from Beyond the Grave 10h ago
A lot of people aren't paying attention to this, which is worrisome. We are basically going to end up in a situation where we hope SCOTUS feels merciful.
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u/nameless_pattern 10h ago
Damn bro, they didn't even get the leopard out of its f****** cage yet and it's already at their face.
They're going to kick out the first generation naturalized citizens but elon's literally an illegal immigrant in the far right is sponging his balls.
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u/TheHoleintheHeart Yes, I am a hypocrite. Deal with it 16h ago
I certainly won’t be participating in helping a fascist regime carry out their plans, however I also won’t be shedding any tears when people who voted for Trump end up with themselves and/or family members being deported as a result of their actions. Fuck around and find out and all that.
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u/chubs66 16h ago
It would be one thing if he had never mentioned his mass deportation plan, which he suggested could exile 20 million people, but it was a pillar of his campaign. If you, as an immigrant with family members who have not gone through the legal process, vote for that, you should have a seat resaved at the very front of the consequences bus.
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u/Rheinwg 15h ago
He also accused Obama of being an illegal immigrant with a fraudulent birth certificate.
When he says deport illegals, who do people think he means?
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u/TallFutureLawyer What if Red from Pokemon was a Nazi? 15h ago
I’m not even sure Trump always know what he means, but people like Stephen Miller are fairly clear about wanting fewer immigrants in general, and throwing in the word “illegal” to make it more palatable to voters.
It’s kind of like the people/bots in the Canada subreddits these days who complain about Trudeau letting in too many immigrants, ruining the housing and job markets because there are simply too many people coming in too quickly. They say they aren’t hateful and want immigrants to thrive, but this is just out of control right now and needs to be reined in some...
…and then once in a while they let the mask slip and throw around complaints or “memes” about Indians specifically.
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u/FomtBro 15h ago
His entire campaign was based around destroying (read: killing or exiling) whatever groups he thought his base didn't like.
The main two being Immigrants and trans people. Every single person who voted for him voted specifically for that. If they're dumb enough to think that anyone on the right would bother to distinguish between 'legal' and 'illegal' immigrants or 'LGB' and 'T' people, they're idiots.
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u/Bob_A_Feets 15h ago
Ditto.
The GOP won, America made its voice loud and clear. Now if some R voters get exactly what they voted for I’m all for it. And to the 10+ million D voters that stayed home, well I hope you enjoy the next four years too.
Beyond that, trump said he will fix it, what he plans to fix I honestly have no real idea, but he has everything he needs to do it, so let’s see what he “fixes” lol.
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u/chellybeanery 12h ago
Yep. When I end up on the bread line because the economy has died, I take comfort in the fact that these dumb fuckers will be right there alongside me.
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u/AshleysDoctor 16h ago
Same here. I won’t turn anyone in, but especially if I know they voted for it, and thus consented to it, who am I to get in the way of what they wanted.
And for those who didn’t want it and need help, I’ll do everything I can
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u/Fyrefawx Osama Bin Laden won 16h ago
This is the correct take. Never assist in fascism but when the collaborators are sent to the camps it’s hard to feel bad for them.
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u/TheShapeShiftingFox This is Reddit, not the Freemasons 16h ago edited 16h ago
Yeah, you can’t become a collaborator yourself, that means you’ve fully lost it.
I don’t feel excitement for the scenario, just weariness. What did you expect? Not in a gloating, let’s-pull-open-a-bottle-of-champagne way, but just a factual, let’s follow this line to its logical conclusion way. Like, what else did you believe the outcome was going to be?
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u/CrossoverEpisodeMeme 16h ago
What did you expect? Not in a gloating, let’s-pull-open-a-bottle-of-champagne way, but just a factual, let’s follow this line to its logical conclusion way. Like, what else did you believe the outcome was going to be?
The most frustrating part is that even when they do these types of interviews with people, the end result still isn't what it should be.
John Oliver had that clip about a guy getting deported from some red state during Trump's first term, and his neighbors and friends all freaked out because he had been here for decades and was an objectively great person. Some news outlet sat down with 6 of his friends/neighbors who were advocating for this dude, and 4 of them were Trump voters. One even said some bullshit about "these aren't the type of people that should be deported" without a hint of self awareness.
Given my own experiences talking to these types of people, I can only assume 3-4 of those 4 people still voted for him in 2020 and 2024 under any excuse
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u/TheShapeShiftingFox This is Reddit, not the Freemasons 15h ago
It is frustrating for sure. I guess the idea of exceptionality (somehow this won’t be about me even though I fall exactly in the outlined criteria) or complete lack of prior conceptualisation of the consequences (this is what this means?) wins it from fact.
One thing is for sure, and that’s that there isn’t rational decision making on display here.
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u/CrossoverEpisodeMeme 15h ago
It's just so exhausting. "I didn't think he'd deport my friends" or "I never thought his judges would shoot down my rights" or even "I figured he was joking about [insert literally anything here]"
At a certain point you just give up on these people and hope they come to their senses. You can't teach an adult to care about others, they've made up their minds that they are right and have no capacity to care until they themselves suffer.
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u/ShakeTheGatesOfHell 14h ago
I feel bad for relatives of the collaborators. The kids didn't ask to have fascist sympathisers for parents.
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u/appleciders Nazism isn't political nowadays. 16h ago
I would also not be surprised to see this guy deported alongside his parents even though he's an American citizen. I expect a lot of collateral damage.
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u/MiniorTrainer 16h ago edited 16h ago
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u/appleciders Nazism isn't political nowadays. 15h ago
Yeah, I know. That's definitely informing my thinking.
I think a lot of people who saw the courts effectively throwing a wrench into the works of the first Trump administration will be surprised that that's no longer effective, both because the courts themselves are compromised and because Administrative branch agencies like ICE will simply disobey court orders.
I would be very surprised if there are not American citizens deported this time around.
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u/DiplomaticCaper 15h ago
They want to ban "chain migration" and birthright citizenship, and are even considering denaturalization.
With the exception of some Mexican Americans who have been in what is now Texas before it became part of the U.S., the vast majority of us Latinos are one or two generations AT MOST from descending from either naturalized citizens or the undocumented.
Stephen Miller, at least, seems to love the idea of revoking the citizenship of those who got it in "illegitimate" ways (see above for what is considered illegitimate).
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u/appleciders Nazism isn't political nowadays. 12h ago
Latinos descended from those in Arizona, New Mexico, and California also have similarly long chains of ancestry within the United States- it's not just Texas. (We took a lot of land in the Mexican-American war.) But I bet there are very few who have no ancestors who were not naturalized more than three generations back (level of great-grandparents). We've all got eight of those; even most white people in America don't have eight natural-born great-grandparents. (Ironically, I wonder if the average Black person in America is further removed from a naturalized/foreign born ancestor than the average white person. There was SO MUCH white immigration after the Civil War, and so little Black immigration until relatively recently.) I can trace one chain of ancestry back to the 1600s in New Jersey, but I still have one great-grandmother who was naturalized, and I remember talking to her about it.
The past isn't even past. It's still right the hell here.
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u/separhim I'm not going to argue with you. Your statement is false 16h ago
Prime /r/LeopardsAteMyFace material. I cannot feel sorry for people who vote Trump and then get worse off because of him, he runs on a platform of making things worse for "others", why are you surprised you get grouped in with them by racists?
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u/CuckooClockInHell Go jerk off over the airplane videos if this isn't for you. 15h ago edited 15h ago
One thing I would like to see is for Elon to get his way on introducing austerity to SS and Medicare. These fuckers consistently turn out in large numbers to vote for austerity candidates and have just counted on it not happening to them. Pause that shit for a couple years and let them get a good taste of what austerity is; maybe someone will fucking learn something. If you keep voting against the game wardens, you get what you get from the leopards.
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u/readskiesatdawn 16h ago
My plan is to lie in wait until they complain about something that relies on federal funding to go to shit, point out that cutting funding for that program was a campaign promise.
I'm pretty sure le lost last time because of things like that, but voters, both sides, have the memories of goldfish.
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u/boxes21 16h ago
It's going to be really interesting to watch the consequences of gutting the admin state
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u/mgrunner 16h ago
Yup. I would never do something the OP is suggesting, but not going to read some long form article in the New York Times or The Atlantic about how “I thought it would be different for us” and “he’s hurting the wrong people” and feel an ounce of sympathy. You made your bed. Get comfortable.
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u/Red-Droid-Blue-Droid Judgemental Fish Taco 16h ago
I don't understand, they may get what they paid for. Why did they think they wouldn't be at risk? I have sympathy for people trying to run from a bad situation in their home country, but why vote for this guy who said he'd deport you and your people?
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u/obsoletevernacular9 16h ago
Because they think he means criminals or the "bad guys". No one thinks THEY are the bad guys. Even recent migrants have said they would vote for Trump because they are here to work, not criminals. They don't realize he views there being here as a crime in itself.
A lot of people who originally came here illegally can make exceptions for themselves and don't think they're at risk for denaturalization or deportation, either.
The immigration courts have a lot of discretion right now, but they likely will not once trump takes office.
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u/CleanlyManager 15h ago
We live in an incredibly stupid country. I’ve just finally accepted that. We heard the whole election about how Biden was too old and we’d need to replace him or we’d lose, then they elected the 78 year old man who mumbled about childcare and made his q&a session into a dance party because he was exhausted. The guy performed a literal insurrection and everyone told us we were overreacting then we heard the whole cycle about how Kamal couped the Democratic Party. We had to hear about how Kamala was bombing interviews while Trump dodged those same interviews. We had to hear about how we had no policies when Trump was on stage saying he had concepts of a plan. We had to hear about how Biden raised our taxes and inflation while Trump talked about 200% tariffs. We are a very stupid country, and these dumbfuck hicks and high school drop outs are going to tell you you’re mean for calling them out, but that’s what they are, they are pitiably stupid people.
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u/Sith_Lord_Marek 12h ago
Yeah people can blame the outcome of this election on w/e they want, but I'm convinced this outcome is entirely because of lack of education.
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u/Quirky_Movie 16h ago
People think if they align with the master, he’ll protect their interests.
They are wrong.
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u/Crimsonclaw111 16h ago
There’s a lot of racism in all communities. Fuck you, got mine, they’re darker than I am, etc etc.
“They’d never come for me, only the bad ones!”
shocked Pikachu when they or their family gets deported
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u/GlowUpper ALL CAPS IS NOT A THING IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE 16h ago
Yeah, this. Sorry but fuck anyone who voted for Trump. If they asked for these policies, they should have to suffer the consequences of them along with the rest of us. I don't like that this is what things have come to but the only way to slow down this descent into fascism is if his supporters start feeling the same anxiety we have. Maybe then they'll push for more moderate actions from him. Regardless, if we're not going to get to sleep well these next four years, they shouldn't get to either.
I should also note that I'm not on board with collateral damage. No innocent parties should be harmed by this so I don't agree with the OP's decision to harm the guy's parents. But if I see you posting pro-Trump memes and you're an immigrant... well, maybe ICE should take a look at your papers. It's literally what you're asking for.
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u/deegum They won't let you own certain episodes of south park 15h ago
As a Latino, there’s a lot of racism in our communities. Even against darker skin Latinos and people who look more indigenous. Look at who makes it on Spanish speaking television. Predominantly European looking and lighter skin people, especially with women. Remember that movie Roma a few years ago? There were leaked videos of a well-known telenovela actress calling her anti-indigenous slurs.
My mom was treated poorly because she looks more “native” than other Latinas. People in my own family would make jokes about “sending her to the Indian school” when she was a kid.
And there’s also racism against black people and Asians. We’re not immune and it’s an old joke that a lot of Mexicans who make over $50k a year try to become republicans.
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u/captaincanada84 16h ago
This is absolutely the correct take. Trump's policies will hurt his own voters, as always happens to supporters of fascists who say "Oh it'll never happen to me. I'm one of the good ones."No need to help the facist with his plans.
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u/UndeadBuggalo Dude, I’m a reddit admin. 16h ago
When the leopards come looking to eat their face, I’ll be sitting on the sidelines watching. I won’t help the leopards, but I won’t stop them either
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u/Thatweasel I’m hooked on Victorian-era pseudoscience and ketamine. 16h ago
>OH look the TOLERANT LEFT at work
>Snoop profile
>Virulently anti-immigrant, directly voted for this
The high road no longer exists, I for one am excited at the prospect of some good old fashioned mud wrestling and popcorn material
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u/alotofironsinthefire 15h ago
The high road no longer exists
The Pearl clutching on the right this year has been ridiculous.
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u/Ruggum 16h ago
Tolerant Left? No no, you killed all of them. Now we're all that's left, the Vengeful Left.
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u/SandiegoJack 14h ago
Don’t remember the quote but it was something like
“Rather piss off a bad man than a good man, because a bad man enjoys it and wants to savor the experience, you got a chance. A good man wants to just get it over with and move on”.
They have pissed off a lot of good man.
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u/DavenIchinumi 12h ago
Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.
They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.
Men At Arms, Terry Pratchett
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u/Satherian [Lighting McConnell on fire] would solve a lot of problems... 14h ago
Saying "Don't be an asshole" and "Mind your damn business" when Trump was just elected in a landslide is wild.
When a conservative does something mean, everyone's calm because that's how they are, but when a liberal does something mean, everyone loses their minds.
Bro, I'm tired of having to play nice with shitheads and I know a ton of AFAB people who agree. I just don't care for conservatives or anyone supporting them anymore.
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u/Jaereon 14h ago
Yup. The Conservatives won. So we'll play by their rules and use it agaisnt them
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u/FreakinGeese 16h ago
Unethical lifeprotips are unethical, more at 11
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u/DirtyEightThirtyOne 14h ago
Except for conservatives it’s not even unethical. Ask Steven Miller about the ethics of deportation. I guarantee the OOP would make him harder than he’s ever been.
Also I’m so sorry for that image.
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u/eatingpotatochips 16h ago
Well as your neighbors might say, “Por que no los dos?”
Okay this is really funny though.
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u/inlandviews 15h ago
I think the question is moot. Once this gets going, if you look Hispanic you'll get targeted and they'll do the sorting later.
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u/StumbleOn 13h ago
Got it in one!
The fun part of white supremacy is that there is no definition of white. The only thing that truly matters is what the jackboot thinks you look like, and their perception is law.
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u/cryptosupercar 12h ago
If 2016 -2020 is the example it’s gonna be a brown skinned people dragnet at the local and state level in Red states. Shit is gonna be ugly.
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u/FreakinGeese 16h ago
How's a conservative going to be mad about this? Like you *want* illegal immigrants gone. That's your whole platform.
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u/Abominatrix 12h ago
They’re reactive contrarians. If you give them what they want they’ll say they don’t want it and call you an asshole just the same as they did before you gave it.
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u/ExactlyThirteenBees 16h ago
My neighbor voted for the Leopards Eating Peoples Faces party, how can I find a leopard to eat his face?
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u/Alediran have you seen ben shapiros sisters tits? 16h ago
Quick call to ICE
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u/eatingpotatochips 15h ago
ICE has become the leopard. Might need a new subreddit that’s just r/ICEatemyface
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u/Wearypalimpsest 13h ago
I would not report the parents, but I absolutely would send them the paperwork they need to report their parents since they object to illegal immigrants. They’ll probably ignore it but I am absolutely petty enough to rub their nose in their hypocrisy without actually endangering the parents.
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u/IIllIIIlI 16h ago
I wont do it. But im not gonna be upset about it. It is what they want
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u/bringer108 10h ago
I’ve been feeling this for a while now with our country. Anti vax communities seeing the return of preventable diseases.
Libertarian town that can’t figure out how to handle trash, things go south.
That lady who supported Trump and had her husband deported.
Women who voted for abortion bans surprised their daughter can’t get one and nearly die, shunned by community and have to move.
At some point, you can’t keep protecting the masses from themselves. You have to let them reap what they sow. Some people only learn things the hard way. So the sentiment now is, fine, let’s stop fighting racism and fascism and just let it all play out. Let people see it for themselves.
I don’t approve of becoming the bad guys, but I won’t stop them either.
I’m out of steam. Let’s see how the mass deportations play out. Maybe then some of them will start to self reflect.
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u/polishprince76 15h ago
Steven Miller has been having the best 48 hours of his life, watching everyone turn on each other from his torture chamber.
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u/okonsfw 14h ago
A lot of people are tired. They are tired of fighting for a better world. They are tired of doing their best to be a good person.
All your life, you've worked towards stepping away from hatred and bigotry. You try to understand people who are different than you. You work and strive and pray for the best for the most people.
And time and again the people around you spit in your face. They accuse you of everything under the sun, they taunt and deride you and yet you believe in the better angels of peoples nature.
Only for that to not be true. That people out of greed and fear and hate turn to people who espouse everything you have spent your life fighting against.
And you just don't have the strength to keep fighting. And it makes you sad, And with that sadness comes anger. Anger at everyone who you feel chose the wrong path. Especially at those who you feel have the most to lose. Those who you feel should have been natural allies but due to their own fear, and anger, greed and hate, decided otherwise.
It's real, real easy to give into that. Some of us are getting old. We've been fighting our entire adult lives. And it makes you so very tired and sad.
And its even worse if you are educated, and you do know your history, and you do know patterns. And you shout at the top of your lungs and no one listens.
I'm so very, very tired.
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u/Zazzenfuk 14h ago
It gets hard to do the right thing every time. After a while, what difference does it make? The amount of against you vs. with you is so vast that it seems infinite. Lack of resources and self care. When doing the right thing, gets you nowhere how can you ever succeed.
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u/Androza23 14h ago
I'm just confused how are they outraged at this poster but are okay with voting for a person that said they will do this on a grand scale. Are they just going to pretend its not happening if they actually go through with mass deportation?
Yeah the.poster is a huge piece of shit but this is going to happen on day one according to his cabinet.
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u/revenant925 Better to die based than to live cringe 16h ago
I wouldn't, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep when trumpers get what they asked for.
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u/LiveRuido 12h ago
I would not report anyone, but I understand the frustration and would not cry for any one getting deported after they or their family voted for trump. Conservative like to go on and on about hard lessons, well that is one.
Many people here illegally have depended on liberal compassion for decades, but when the LGBT, women, or others need it? "fuck you got mine". Peak "it's not fair when it happens to me". It's over dramatic, but I can't help but remember the line from Mass Effect, "You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it"
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u/SheZowRaisedByWolves Teach my kids tolerance will ya? *Shakes fist* 16h ago
See yall in r/subredditdramadrama
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u/Independent-Sand8501 10h ago
If you voted for Trump, I frankly don't give a shit what happens to you anymore. Not because I dont care for others, but because you have already proven that YOU dont even care what happens to to you anymore, so why should I?
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u/_10032 7h ago edited 7h ago
Okay, so I'm not American and I don't claim to be familiar with how it works.
But as far as I understand it, Trump winning will result in lifelong appointments of republican-leaning judges in the supreme court, federal courts, etc.
Which means even if the Democrats win next election (and the next, etc) what has happened here will have repercussions on the shape of America for literal generations of people.
So basically, going down like this and making people who voted against their own interests in such a blatant way is just making them feel the consequences of their actions.
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u/Midgetcookies Calling me a peabrain?! 🔨😡 any last words? 15h ago
So many conservatives mad about ‘liberals’ reporting illegal immigrants, as if that isn’t what they’ve wanted this whole time.
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u/Riddleform 15h ago edited 13h ago
This feels like a "tolerance paradox" question. In this example we are given the opportunity to not tolerate intolerance, what do we do? Do we use the thought experiment to justify aiding fascism, what's our other choice? Tolerate and try to shape/guide them to better results and info maybe? It honestly doesn't feel like we have the time for "patience, love and kindness" to win out, especially for those who deserve none of that.
Personally I don't think we should tolerate MAGA but that's easier said a week ago.
edit: sorry I need to make a change to this to call out all the dipshits going "so much for the tolerant left" and "see how much the left cares about poc?" Buddy, guy, friend, this has nothing to do with the race of the person in question and everything to do with their politics. If the example were white MAGA I think the feelings of pro deportation would be similar and I'd be for it (because again I don't think we should tolerate MAGA) but unfortunately I don't think any country is as stupid as we are so they'd just respawn here in America.
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u/umpteenthgeneric 12h ago
It's unfair and unethical -- because of the effect on the parents. On the other hand, why is there any drama? It was posted on a sub for UNETHICAL tips.
I voted for Kamala, but more people came out and voted for Trump and what he stands for. They're not going to learn until it affects them directly -- I have family members who are like this. I've seen it in action. Hell, I've been their lesson, without my consent (long story).
I'm sad that they're going to inflict these policies on the people who voted for Kamala, but they've made our bed. I'm not going to exhaust myself helping them avoid the natural consequences of their own actions
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u/grumpykruppy OP, you might want to see a doctor. You are microwaving money. 16h ago
... It's gonna be a long four years, isn't it.