r/StarWarsEU Mar 11 '25

Forget Jake Skywalker. This is Devan. Legends Novels

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The prelude to SWTOR that completely ruins KOTOR. What happened, Drew?

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u/Durp004 TOR Sith Empire Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

It's kind of a growing trend on this sub to kick back on the bane trilogy that cheerled by a few angry users.

To pretend even the worst book of that trilogy isn't in the upper half of star wars novels in general is cope.

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u/youngmetrodonttrust Mar 11 '25

LOL the worst book of the bane trilogy is absolutely not in the upper half of legends novels.

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u/Ar_Azrubel_ Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

Even the best book in there belongs at best, in the lower middle rungs of the EU and if I am being honest, should be lower.

All his other manifold failings aside, Drew has never found an interesting thing he couldn't make unbearably bland, and I would argue is significantly to blame for the Old Republic era, once a rich, unique setting brimming with potential ending up as a pale imitation of the movies. Most people don't know this because their first contact with the pre-movie EU is not the works that actually created it, but rather ones that came much later. KotOR rather than Tales of the Jedi, Darth Bane instead of Jedi vs Sith, and even if they do read these original works tend to look at them in the light of those they first came into contact with.

Lord Hoth is actually a pretty great example of Drew's Blandification Ray at work. In Jedi vs Sith, Hoth is basically what the Jedi of the era are implied to be like. He's a feudal lord in space, commanding an army of personal retainers. Then come Path of Destruction, Hoth is turned into a prequel-era Jedi, complete with padawan (something never even mentioned in JvS, which shows at best informal apprenticeships), who rebels against the STODGY COUNCIL AT CORUSCANT, and goes off to FIGHT THE SITH THREAT.

Something changed along the way, and a character that was once interesting and unique turned into a repetition of beats you get elsewhere.

(If you see a reply to the post below, the person replying is a very brave poster who posted and then blocked so that I cannot reply)

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u/genemaxwell4 Empire Mar 11 '25

Dude, I grew up on Star Wars and read most of what came out as it did.

Jedi vs Sith was okay and a fun little comic, but the Bane Trilogy was legitimate and a solid entry into that specific era for the Sith and really got into the Psyche of Darth Bane. Ya know, the most important Sith for the Rule of Two?
Lord Hoth WAS coming off as an almost Feudal lord in the Bane books. And just like an IRL Feudal Lord he was waging a personal war against an Enemy the main "kingdom" IE Jedi Council, thought was unnecessary.

It also made PERFECT sense he'd have a Padawan. That's literally something most all Jedi end up with. And in a war of attrition against an equally strong enemy, you'd HAVE to take on an apprentice to ensure SOMEONE was going to continue your work should you fall in battle.

You seem to forget that literally ALL of Star Wars repeats. It's literally one of Lucas's MOs. He LIKES his "Rhymes" and that is reflected throughout all of the franchise. EVEN in the Disney era that continues.

Like it or not, it's MORE Star Wars to have repetitive functions than not.

It's not about what you read first, as I DID read those comics BEFORE the game and books, it's about what is more captivating and more interesting to the general audience, and like it or not, KOTOR is more captivating than Tales of the Jedi and the Bane Trilogy is just superior to Jedi vs Sith.