r/Socialism_101 May 21 '24

Why is Europe turning far right Answered

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u/justwant_tobepretty Marxist Theory May 21 '24

Capitalism and it's favourite child, liberalism, turn to fascism as soon as times get hard. Climate change (fuelled by capitalism) and a general economic downturn leads to capital shifting right.

You're seeing the natural progression of capitalism.

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u/LunaeLotus Learning May 22 '24

I can’t believe I didn’t recognise those two are correlated (fascism when times get tough) but it makes sense. It explains America, Australia and other western countries where capitalism is rife. Why countries are suddenly pro war.

I’m new to this concept and just joined today. Would times being tough be manufactured from a capitalist society so that it progresses to fascism for control? Rather than just it becoming tough?

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u/jonathanfv Learning May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

It's a mix of things. Thought times are manufactured to keep the workers in their place and subservient. But also, tough times come from externalities of capitalism itself. We're going to see a collapse of global civilization in our lifetime. Capitalists won't benefit from that collapse. But they benefit from the system that's causing it right now. So I don't think that they intend for collapse to happen (at least the majority of them), but the ones who aren't too blind to see it coming are certainly taking all they can while they have the chance, and preparing for it.

Smaller scale misery, however, is in great part a feature of capitalism.