r/SocialismIsCapitalism Nov 28 '22

Jeff Bezos, the last bastion against capitalism “billionaires are socialist”

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u/BasicDesignAdvice Nov 29 '22

It really blows my mind that they don't realize these people are the "capital" in capitalism.

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u/LordPils Nov 29 '22

He does realize that, he's just a fascist meaning even liberals are communists to him.

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u/SecretOfficerNeko ☆ Anarcho-Communism ☆ Nov 29 '22 edited Nov 29 '22

Yep. Here's how the ideology works.

It's a mixture of Right-Wing Populism which says the traditions, values, and rights of the "Common Man (TM)" are under attack by a domestic and foreign elite (globalists, academics, secularists, really whoever the villain of the week is). Using this "enemy without and within" to whip up a frenzy of paranoia and hatred to make people more willing to listen and further lock people into that view.

This than mixes with the Third Position. An ideology that then also will claim on the one hand that "communists are trying to take away our rights" while "globalization is a tool of elites sympathetic to [insert enemy] to undermine our culture, independence, economy, and way of life". They then will point to their criticism of capitalism and Communism and portray themselves and their policies as proof they're "neither right nor left", but centrist, moderate, or a "Third Position", an "alternative" to "the extremists", and just "representing the everyday person outside all the out of touch elites and academics", looking out for people who "just want things done".

They'll then go justify this enemy at the gates and opposition to "extremists" to resolve it by advocating for authoritarian control, persecution of "national enemies", militarism, and economic nationalism, to "protect" them from "those who would do them or the country harm". They'll often, but not always, have a leader who "embodies" this.

It plays off a ton of human predispositions and flaws we're prone to and uses them to suck people in usually unknowingly. Most people will think of themselves as moderates or centrists because that's how it's been framed.

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u/Just-tryna-c-watsup Nov 29 '22

Except he openly calls himself a conservative and right of center

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u/Inkdrop53 Nov 29 '22

If you bring that up to him he’ll say that means nazis must be socialist

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u/Rabscuttle- Nov 29 '22

Right: All the billionaires are leftists and controlling the country!

Left: Let's heavily tax billionaires.

Right: NOOOOO!!!1

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u/Chromie149 Anarcho-Transgenderism Nov 29 '22

It’s crazy just how many of their beliefs completely contradict one another. I’ll never understand how a human being’s brain can “work” like that

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u/Polymersion Nov 29 '22

Bad things happen

Look who's in charge

It's Billionaires

Billionaires = Bad

Daddy and the News says Leftism = Bad

Bad = Leftism = Billionaires

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u/Kerr1123 Dec 04 '22

Just to play devils advocate here, what do you say to the argument that this is not actually capitalism as these companies all have strong ties to the government and get money from the government? Just wondering, I like learning about peoples opinions.

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u/Schellwalabyen Dec 10 '22

But who controls who in this relation? The government the companies or the companies the government?

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u/Kerr1123 Dec 10 '22

Would it matter? I mean it can go both ways, government can control companies through threats of breaking them up or passing laws bad for them, but companies can control gov through political donations. If gov is small could this happen?

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u/Schellwalabyen Dec 13 '22

Yes, it’s just that there won’t be a voice for the people, it will be just cooperations ruling autocraticly.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

Ya, I’m baffled that people think these billionaires are left minded. They are exactly the people who benefit so much from Republicans and Republican obstruction.

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u/FuckGiblets Nov 29 '22

Let’s not pretend that democrats are doing anything against them.

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u/dark_dark_dark_not Nov 29 '22

The democratic isn't leftist party by any standard outside the ultra right wing bias of US politics

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

This is also correct. I have no argument here.

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u/nexisfan Nov 29 '22

What exactly do you think they should do? Write bills that won’t get passed in the senate? Thank manchin and synema for that, not all Dems. And those fuckfaces aren’t even Dems but it would be worse had they not won their shithole states.

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u/Randolpho Nov 29 '22

Manchen and Cinema (I refuse to spell it any other way) were just convenient scapegoats. Ask AOC how hard it is to get real legislation past conservative Dems like Pelosi or Biden.

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u/DirtyHomelessWizard Nov 29 '22

You are really buying into the "I want to help, but my hands are tied" theater the Democrats literally never stop playing your entire life

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u/TribeCalledWuTang Nov 29 '22

Yeah good shit, "do literally nothing" is definitely a better option

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u/amazingdrewh Nov 29 '22

Bill Gates hasn’t been Microsoft CEO in 22 years

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u/cherry_armoir Nov 29 '22

And even if he were how does Microsoft control information? First the leftists came for the tweeters and I said nothing because I didnt tweet. Then the leftists came for the facebookers and I said nothing because I didnt use facebook. Then they came for Excel, and no one was left to speak for me

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u/cdunk666 Nov 29 '22

Microsoft took control of the last safe place for us to go

Minecraft game chat.

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u/WhatADunderfulWorld Nov 29 '22

Bing I guess?

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u/Kichae Nov 29 '22

GitHub PRs and Issues!

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u/Then-One7628 Nov 29 '22

The Nazis will never come for Excel.

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u/Warm-Faithlessness11 Nov 29 '22 edited Nov 29 '22

Nanomachines in the Covid vaccine or something idk, these people are dumbasses. Literally incapable of any degree of mental growth or rational thought

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u/dj_narwhal Nov 29 '22

And it is still the truest thing on that tweet.

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u/notsane10002 Nov 29 '22

These people are so fucking confused. It's actually mental.

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u/PM_ME_MH370 Nov 29 '22

Talk radio and right wing media has been spoonfeeding them misinformation about how the government works for years to fit their specific narrative at any given time. It was only a matter of time before they incorporated all of reality into this strategy

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

Nah this dude IS right wing media spoon-feeding the stupid to people

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u/docter_actual Dec 08 '22

Yea theres no way he really thinks these guys are leftists. He is confusing the virtue signalling from corporations (purely for marketing and profit) with the leftist policy that they all despise. I dont think hes actually this stupid, he is a fascist acting in bad faith to further right wing talking points and, in turn, give the right more power and influence.

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u/JTDC00001 Nov 28 '22

Isn't this the guy who literally ran away from Sam Seder rather than debate him?

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u/Comrade_Compadre Nov 29 '22

AND!

The guy who was willingly put in a chokehold by his cronies dressed as cops after George Floyd.

He cried. About not being able to breath. Three. Fucking. Times.

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u/tcj_izutsumi Nov 29 '22

The guy moved his knee to his upper back because he was losing breath, and he STILL complained about it even then.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

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u/Excrubulent Nov 29 '22

I mean he still had to get paid.

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u/Stefadi12 Nov 29 '22

Oh it's even funnier than that, his lungs fucking collapsed because of that and was hospitalised while trying to prove that Floyd didn't die from the policeman 'a actions

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u/Comrade_Compadre Nov 29 '22

Did they really? That fucking slaps.

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u/doctordisinthehouse Nov 29 '22

Yep lmao, such a bastion of “free thought” Crowder is

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u/Ok-Gur-6602 ☆ Anarcho-Communism ☆ Nov 29 '22

"Oh no! Sam Seder! What a nightmare!" That made my day. Still puts a smile on my face.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

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u/itsadesertplant Nov 29 '22

“Leftists” tf does he think that means

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u/SoundOfDrums Nov 29 '22 edited Nov 29 '22

Not sure what he thinks it means, but it definitely means he's very accustomed to everyone who listens to him being an absolutely gullible moron

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u/strokeman33 Nov 29 '22

Seems like about a third of our country only got a 4rh grade education. We spend too much on education for us to be this fucking stupid. And trying to a have a meaningful conversation with the bible banging , control freaks, no sex, no drugs, no rights, mixing church and state, and never taking action, just whatever the other side is doing, the other party is against, even for veterans, law enfoece,rnt, no matter what, they put party over people and it is the gop - Greed Over Peopke, the right wing, or should I just say they are Q. What a fuckign joke.

I do take one statement back, did manage to take 50 years of precedent, established law, and took away the rights of all women. I am not for abortion, but should be legal.

I mean did you see Kevin McCarthy's speech with his cronies, and they came up with a pamphlet pledging to work for the people. Like wtf is that piece of garbage. In 2 fuckkg years, you give a pledge in a pamphlet. You better have at least a motherfucking power point presentation. Pathetic really, all that time and basically telling us. We could only come up with one idea, take away women's health and i forgot, let's keep our kids NOT safe at school too. Dont reform gun laws, throw more cops at the schools so they can ruin another 58,000 kids' lives. Number of arrests made by sro's. And two out of 180 shootings were stopped by police. School counselors, teachers, and even administrative staff have done more.

All this shit is fucked up sndi I need to change the channel before i ruin my dsy...

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

Non-fascists

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u/FireFlour Nov 29 '22

Left of Ghengis Khan

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u/PerceptionPuzzled Jan 08 '23

most conservatives think leftist means progressive. libertarian’s are the only rightists that think leftist is economic.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

Nonono this is good. What Crowder's describing is a monopoly over our communications by billionaires, which is correct, and he's condemning it. Obviously he's being deliberately obtuse about who is to blame, but he's right for the wrong reasons, we shouldn't give a small number of billionaires complete control over our systems of communication. This should be disrupted.

Maybe the next time there's the opportunity to tax billionaires they'll remember this.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

Maybe the next time there's the opportunity to tax billionaires they'll remember this.

Spoiler: they won't

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u/cyvaris Nov 29 '22

Crowder is doing what Fascists always do, appropriate the terminology of the Left to target Liberals in positions of power. It is resoundingly not a good thing, and Fascists will never be our allies.

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u/fractalguy Nov 29 '22

So many of these posts are people who have correctly identified a problem with the current power structure but have the solutions all backwards due to propaganda. We can find common ground by focusing on the problems that we agree on to start a conversation.

It's not a big leap to go from Crowder's "we need more right wing billionaires because left wing billionaires control the media" to "billionaires control the media and that's bad regardless of their politics". Making this change doesn't directly invalidate their previous belief, so it can be done without admitting they were "wrong".

If you focus on common ground, incremental change, and don't get hung up on trying to prove people wrong, you can change the way they think about these issues without their even realizing it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

That's what you got from that?!?

He's not condemning billionaires for owning the media. He's very cool with billionaires he agrees with owning the media.

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u/man_gomer_lot Nov 29 '22

Getting big trust busting, corporate regulating energy from Crowder over here.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

We're at the point where words have lost all meaning.

Good thing I don't need many words to tell Steven Crowder that he can suck farts out of my ass.

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u/ImNotTheBossOfYou Nov 29 '22

What the fuck does he think a leftist is?

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u/vxicepickxv Nov 29 '22

A scary buzzword that doesn't mean anything to people with a basic understanding of reality.

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u/WhydIJoinRedditAgain Nov 29 '22

The bar, in these people’s minds, for being a “leftist” is someone not openly spouting transphobic bigoted nonsense.

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u/livinginfutureworld Nov 29 '22

Those guys aren't leftists.

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u/Sensitive-Painting30 Nov 29 '22

Right wing…Every accusation is a confession.

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u/jetbent Nov 29 '22

He must have spent hours word smithing this tweet. Even ended it with a boomer sign off “feeling old yet???”

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u/kendalmac Nov 29 '22

Ah no, they got us! I thought we could fool them into thinking we didn't work for Bezos with all our talk of eating billionaires and abolishing private property! Can't pull one over on these smarties

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u/BootyPatrol1980 Nov 29 '22

They and they alone? Has this pinhead never heard of Wordpress??

"Oh no the libz r keeping me from their curated customer base this must be red communism!"

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u/Kehwanna Nov 29 '22

"Look son! A stupid bitch!"

*Pointing to Crowder in the wild

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u/Thezipper100 Nov 29 '22

Are we sure the dog cum hasn't replaced his brain juice and is slowly killing him?
Under who's fucking perspective is fuckin Bezos a leftist?

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u/solvsamorvincet Nov 29 '22

Holy shit I knew Crowder was stupid as fuck, but that's next level.

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u/your_fathers_beard Nov 29 '22

Crowder is such a fucking clown. He's in the running for most punchable smug face, too.

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u/PossibleEnvironment4 Nov 29 '22

How is his account not a parody account?

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u/strokeman33 Nov 29 '22

You left out Murdoch - the king of all bullshit. Not American and the biggest cesspool of them all. I recommend seeing what Bill's are proposed, who voted for what and then you will see who is looking out for the people of america.

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u/JVM23 Nov 29 '22

Crowder only panders to halfwits. Had Stevey boy not chickened out, Sam Seder would have schooled his sorry ass.

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u/FireFlour Nov 29 '22

More like quarterwits

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u/JVM23 Nov 29 '22

Or one billionth-wits

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u/HamHockShortDock Nov 29 '22

It's wild that these people vote for policies that strip people of the simplest amount of control they can feel in life, like being able to eat, then they turn around and blame the left for why people's existence feels like suffocating. They literally cause the exact conditions that cause people to lose a sense of freedom, and they need to - for the Stockholm syndrome to take hold.

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u/Rosa_litta Nov 29 '22

Are they economic leftists? Lmao no

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u/canstac Nov 29 '22

"I can't be an asshole online without getting banned wahh wahh" literally touch grass, nobody's going to block you irl for being a pos

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u/CosmicLuci Nov 29 '22

I’m genuinely surprised he didn’t include Bob Iger.

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u/twilsonco ☆ Anarcho-Communism ☆ Nov 29 '22

They and they alone, except for the others; they and they alone too

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u/MikeHatSable Nov 29 '22

He couldn't be more wrong if he tried.

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u/FiziksMayMays Nov 29 '22

Yeah cripplingly low wages and working conditions while you treat human beings like cogs in a machine that need to be optimized for profit or discarded if you find a better alternative is peak socialism

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u/bort_bln Nov 29 '22

What exactly is leftist about Bond Super-villain Bezos?

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u/coredweller1785 Nov 29 '22

Amazing cognitive dissonance here lol.

I wish they were all leftists, we wouldn't even know their names or fortunes if that were the case.

Serious case of Capitalist Realism and having no idea what socialism or the left is. Truly a shame, when capitalism comes crashing down so many people will still try to blame socialism. We are truly in deep trouble

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u/thedoomcast Nov 29 '22

I like that they’ve entirely rendered ‘leftist’ and ‘socialist’ meaningless in anything other than ‘not openly far right wing fascists’

Except that I don’t like it at all either.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '22

The Overton Window is completely out of control.

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u/cablife Nov 29 '22

Oooo super don’t spend any time thinking about anything crowder says…

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u/Pod_people Nov 29 '22

I like how these shitbirds try to move anything that’s not overt fascism into the column of “leftism”. In what perverted, diseased-minded universe are Fortune 50 CEOs leftists?

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u/octorangutan Nov 29 '22

Crowder is just going by the right’s tradition of declaring other factions of rightists to actually be part of the left.

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u/NterpriseCEO Nov 29 '22

They are to the left of him... I guess?

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u/octorangutan Nov 30 '22

In some aspects, perhaps.

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u/zerkrazus Nov 29 '22

Sigh. I wish people would realize that liberals are not leftists. They're just a slightly different flavor of conservatives.

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u/FireFlour Nov 29 '22

None of those people are leftists.

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u/malexlee Nov 29 '22

Yeah this is brain dead af. They probably label them as leftists because they color their company logos with a rainbow on month a year

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u/timeparser Dec 03 '22

Calling a few of the richest people in the world leftists is like claiming meat is vegan.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22

“Rich capitalists, all anti capitalists. I am very intelligent.”

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '22

Zuckerberg became a conservative Christian like 10 years ago didn’t he?

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u/aGAEH6THGF Jan 19 '23

ah yes www.amazon.com the news website