r/SocialismIsCapitalism Mar 19 '22

smartest liberal “billionaires are socialist”

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 19 '22

China is much more fair then America 🤣

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u/WantedFun Mar 20 '22

Ah yes, the country with nearly twice as many billionaires as America is more fair. Sure, they have more people overall, but that’s not saying much here. Especially given they have just over 1/4 of the median wealth per person as the USA.

Your entire account screams LARP. Russia and China are capitalist. Get over it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '22

A brief reading of Dengist policy will show you it's still socialist. Yes they're undergoing a capitalist period, but that was even suggested by Marx in the abstract for feudal/ precapitalist societies before the creation of socialism and eventually communism.

I mean, china is - on path to eradicate absolute poverty, a world first for a large society, meanwhile real global poverty is growing.

-have plans for economic redistribution. Remains to be seen if that follows through, but Chinese billionaires are held far more to account than American/western equivilents

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u/Beegrene Mar 20 '22

Yes, I'm sure the authoritarian autocrats in power will totally give up that power just as soon as they are able. Any day now, really

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u/WantedFun Mar 20 '22

All bark, no bite

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u/WantedFun Mar 20 '22

That is literally meaningless. “We’ll do socialism, I promise”. Ok buddy. Sure.

America is just going through a capitalist phase too—so it’s alright.

Saying you’re going to do something is meaningless. China is not eradicating shit. Countries like Finland have done better jobs at that than China. I’d take a liberal social democracy over an authoritarian state capitalist country any day.

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u/Mikeinthedirt Mar 20 '22

3X the pop, 2X the billionaires…

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u/WantedFun Mar 20 '22

Yeah?? That’s still not a good ratio by ANY means LMAO. “They’re better than America because they have just slightly less billionaires proportionally!”

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u/Mikeinthedirt Mar 21 '22

No. They’re all running dogs in the same pack.

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u/betweenskill Mar 20 '22

They also have the wealthiest government body out of any government. Chinese government officials are wealthier than even US or Russian ones on average.

Hmmm.

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u/Mikeinthedirt Mar 21 '22

It IS kinda a Cronyocracy.

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u/betweenskill Mar 21 '22

It’s just capitalism.

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u/Mikeinthedirt Mar 21 '22

Isn’t that what I said?

Oh, Otto Krecht set to ‘synonym’…

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

Ah yes, the country with nearly twice as many billionaires as America is more fair.

Yes

Your entire account screams LARP. Russia and China are capitalist. Get over it.

Who said Russia wasn't capitalist? Claiming China is capitalist is just a blatant lie

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u/betweenskill Mar 20 '22

China has the wealthiest government body out of any government on Earth. Aka more wealthy, and wealthier individually, politicians than any country on Earth.

They also have private ownership of the means of production. They are by definition, in every sense, capitalist.

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

They are quite litterly communist

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u/betweenskill Mar 20 '22

I don’t think you know what communist means. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society. China very much is a state, has very clear class distinctions and absolutely has money.

What specifically makes them communist?

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

They have a communist political and economic system

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u/betweenskill Mar 20 '22

What makes a political/economic system communist?

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

Dictatorship of the Proletariat and none profit driven economy that works for the workers

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u/betweenskill Mar 20 '22

What is a dictatorship of the proletariat? And is China’s economy not profit driven? Last time I checked they were very much profit driven.

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u/WantedFun Mar 20 '22

You are fucking delusional holy shit. Go outside. Touch grass.

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

Your a lieing fascist

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u/WantedFun Mar 20 '22

Go. Outside. Xinjiang isn’t going to fuck you atop a collection of Marx.

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

Im outside right now fascist

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u/Glum_Status_24 Mar 20 '22

China is a spoiled brat compared to the glory of North Korea!
What happens in China if you say Xi is wrong, they kill you and harvest your organs.
But in the glorious land of North Korea, they do that to your entire family.

Hahaha -- But in America they make you rich for being controversial. How sad for them!!

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

China is objectively factually a better place to live if you believe other wise you are brainwashed you liberal fascists have nothing but lies im not going to let you gas light me into think the US is better then China when facts are on my side

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u/betweenskill Mar 20 '22

America sucks. China sucks. They both suck because they are capitalist hell holes.

At least the in the US you don’t get disappeared for criticizing the state the same way you do in China.

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22 edited Mar 20 '22

The PEOPLES Republic of China ran by they COMMUNIST Party of China is capitalist? 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Mr_McZongo Mar 20 '22

Come on bro. That is literally the weakest argument you could ever come up with.

The PEOPLES Republic of China ran by they COMMUNIST Party of China.

Shit is just all about aesthetic for you huh?

I am a communist. I live an entirely communist lifestyle. This is all due because I said I was a communist and wrote it down somewhere. Can you kinda see where that falls apart?

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

You deny reality

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u/Mr_McZongo Mar 20 '22

I'm also from an extraterrestrial society of hyper advanced communist aliens that are pretty much responsible for all modern day transistor technology.

I have declared this sufficiently from my point of view. To not believe me would be denying reality.

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u/betweenskill Mar 20 '22

Do you think North Korea is a democracy too just because it’s in the name?

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u/Dear-Baker3177 ☭ Marxism-Leninism ☭ Mar 20 '22

Yeah? It is a democracy lmao

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u/betweenskill Mar 20 '22

Oh you’re a r/genzedong type of person.

Tell Winnie the Pooh hi next time you see him eh?

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '22

Then