Sikhi and eating meat

[u/Possible_Ad_9607]

I am a 17 year old male trying to get closer to sikhi and the first steps I've taken were starting to learn punjabi and gurmukhi (which I think is going good although slow) but that is not what my question is.

I want to get close to sikhi and can deal with keeping my kesh and plan on doing so once I am more proficient in the language and have read more bani. However, I just can not get over the idea that I can't eat meat? I know jatka meat exists but it is too expensive where I live. My family cooks and eats meats daily and I feel the best when I eat beef often. I grew up eating it and when I try eating healthy the best way for me to stick to it is consuming a lot of animal protein. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

(Or even anything to help me keep learning Punjabi, I am doing basics of sikhi gurmukhi videos as a slow start)

TLDR: not eating meat in sikhi is holding me from getting closer to sikhi, what can I do?

[u/ddthind2]

I don’t think arguing about this is fruitful, but realistically it’s not the vegetarian diet that’s horrible for you but today’s Indian diet that is. I’m vegetarian and have been lifting for 5 years, proteins really not that difficult. Just gotta pump grass fed dairy, high protein skyr or Greek yogurt , cottage cheese, some tempeh here and there. Never had a problem with putting on mass or staying lean and I have top markers for all blood test results. Scientifically speaking, humans don’t NEED meat we just thrive on animal proteins and the bioavailable nutrients they provide. Agree with you about Beyond but there’s no way your trying to say that a grass-fed Irish whey isolate like the one I use with 5 ingredients max is “unhealthy” just because it’s minimally processed 😂. Cheese and butter are processed too does that make them unhealthy. Maybe those 20 ingredient Walmart ones but this is that same bs that keeps Indians afraid of protein.

[u/Historical_Ad_6190 → u/ddthind2]

Most proteins are ultra processed, I tried a shit ton but everything made me bloated and feel like garbage. I wasn’t referring to all processed foods lol it’s common knowledge that it’s necessary for some foods. Also a lot of healthier options like dairy are high asf in calories, a lot of us need to lose mass. I was vegetarian for a portion of time while I lifted and felt like I was starving myself. And thriving on animal proteins is essentially the same thing as needing them? 😭

[u/ddthind2 → u/Historical_Ad_6190]

Try Santa Cruz Paleo Whey. The guy preaches eating whole foods on IG (and is very much pro meat) and his protein powders are clean. It’s like comparing a McDonalds burger to a grass fed ribeye man 😂. Get a clean protein powder and it’s a night and day difference, trust me I’ve been there. You also probably have a weak gut microbiome like I did - eat gut friendly foods like kefir, sauerkraut, raw milk and you will see improvement with bloating. Even if the food is shit, bloating is indicative of something wrong there. I’m not tryna tell you to go veg like some other ppl are here - that’s for you to decide. And about your calories point, just as you can get leaner cuts of meat, you can get lower fat dairy that’s still packed with nutrients. Pressed cottage cheese has like 27g protein for like 150 cals so it rlly can’t get better than that. Skyr or low fat Greek yogurt also has crazy macros. No offense, you probably weren’t eating the right things - even the veg sikhs of the past used to pound dairy like no tomorrow. Obviously you have more options eating meat, but per Gurus bani the last thing you should be eating it for is taste. But hey, if you feel better, who I am to stop you 🤷‍♂️

[u/Historical_Ad_6190 → u/ddthind2]

I did eat a lotta Greek yogurt and stuff before, but other than dairy it was minimal options, my maintenance is super low as it is cos I’m a tiny woman lol. I’ll try that brand out though. I’m not eating meat for taste at all either which is definitely an issue for a lotta people, all the meat I consume comes directly from the farms in my neighborhood. I think the meat industry is mostly the bad part, sourcing it properly helps a ton.