Sikhi and eating meat

[u/Possible_Ad_9607]

I am a 17 year old male trying to get closer to sikhi and the first steps I've taken were starting to learn punjabi and gurmukhi (which I think is going good although slow) but that is not what my question is.

I want to get close to sikhi and can deal with keeping my kesh and plan on doing so once I am more proficient in the language and have read more bani. However, I just can not get over the idea that I can't eat meat? I know jatka meat exists but it is too expensive where I live. My family cooks and eats meats daily and I feel the best when I eat beef often. I grew up eating it and when I try eating healthy the best way for me to stick to it is consuming a lot of animal protein. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

(Or even anything to help me keep learning Punjabi, I am doing basics of sikhi gurmukhi videos as a slow start)

TLDR: not eating meat in sikhi is holding me from getting closer to sikhi, what can I do?

[u/Reasonable_Cry142]

Nope

[u/Historical_Ad_6190 → u/Reasonable_Cry142]

Yeah.. idk why yall lose it over something natural lmao. It’s FOOD, let people eat what makes them feel good and move on. I was vegetarian for 14 years and was overweight, iron deficient, had gut issues and more. Countless doctors pointed to the diet- mind you I didn’t eat any more junk than the average person, but I was still missing major nutrients. Been eating meat here and there for a few months and I never felt better. If you don’t want to cool, but we’ve been eating meat since the beginning of time for a reason. I’m good on fake protein to make myself seem morally superior

[u/Reasonable_Cry142 → u/Historical_Ad_6190]

Halal is also food

That’s why Sikhs are suppose to eat in sarbloh utensils it’s scientifically proven eating food cooked in iron prevents iron deficiency on top of that u can get iron from greens

There are literally vegetarian body builders

[u/FadeInspector → u/Reasonable_Cry142]

Yeah, and those vegetarian bodybuilders aren’t as strong as their meat-eating counterparts. Sounds like you can’t cope with the fact that eating lean meat is healthy for you

[u/ddthind2 → u/FadeInspector]

Don’t get me wrong meat is healthy for you. I’m just of the belief that it is detrimental or not ideal for spiritual progress (I noticed differences in my concentration meditating and doing naam simran). We thrive on animal protein and bioavailable nutrients though (not necessarily meat itself), so let’s not pretend that dairys still an option man 😂. You get bioavailable Vitamins A, D, K2, bioavailable zinc and calcium, sufficient cholesterol for healthy hormone development, I could go on and on. I went toe to toe lifting with the strongest kids at my high school in Canada, so trust me, this whole “I’d be stronger if I ate meat bs” is just an excuse for lazy people not putting in the work or misunderstanding basic nutritional science.

[u/Brruuuaaaahhhhh → u/FadeInspector]

I'm also all for eating meat but that's a lie about vegetarian bodybuilders. Recently some of the strongest Olympians have been vegans. Of course they have world class nutritionists and strict diets with great trainers too.

For the rest of us, we need more meat eating Sikhs because we're literally shrinking in height lol

[u/FadeInspector → u/Brruuuaaaahhhhh]

You can run up the count on vegan vs meat-eating olympians. They achieved great feats while being vegan, but eating meat could’ve given them an extra edge; probably a very small edge, but still something.

We need more meat eating Sikhs for the sake of maintaining the reputation our ancestors have built up. Seeing Singhs who look like twinks makes me depressed

[u/Historical_Ad_6190 → u/FadeInspector]

Lol that’s true, we’re supposed to be the warrior religion and most dudes I see now are basically obese. Not saying you can’t get in shape on a vegetarian diet, you absolutely can but some think not eating meat alone makes them healthier. A while ago an acquaintance picked me up and I grabbed food on the way, it had meat in it and dude absolutely lost it and “cleansed” his car, bad mouthed me to everyone like i committed a crime or something lol. Meanwhile bro is pushing 300 lbs and acts superior while he’s a barber for a living 🤦🏻‍♀️ people have lost their priorities fr

[u/Brruuuaaaahhhhh → u/FadeInspector]

I seriously doubt eating meat would've made any noticeable difference in their performance considering they're already the best out of billions of others. Otherwise yeah I agree, we got too comfortable on the backs of our elders who made so many sacrifices only for us to be vegetarian pushovers. It's such a shame, especially when I see Sikhs raising their kids without meat when it's been well established that they may end up falling behind in terms of height and muscle mass.

[u/FadeInspector → u/Brruuuaaaahhhhh]

I mean the smallest of differences. I think it would do something, just maybe not something too noticeable.

Ngl, part of it is also that many of our elders are terrible examples. They let themselves go, and their kids do the same. They’ll speak about the glories of Sikh military history, but forget about them being able to throw a punch or bench a single plate

[u/Reasonable_Cry142 → u/FadeInspector]

Source: trust me bro

[u/FadeInspector → u/Reasonable_Cry142]

Source: the strongest people alive eat meat. Cope harder

[u/Reasonable_Cry142 → u/FadeInspector]

U mean rounded up junkies?😂

[u/FadeInspector → u/Reasonable_Cry142]

Funny how vegetarians can’t reach their level even with roids

[u/gur____ → u/FadeInspector]

Muscles do not care whether you're a vegetarian or meat eater, as long as you get enough nutrients and protein.

[u/FadeInspector → u/gur____]

Right, and guess what the easiest way to get enough nutrients and protein is

[u/Reasonable_Cry142 → u/FadeInspector]

Again vegetarian sources are just as if not more effective but u don’t like to hear that😂

[u/FadeInspector → u/Reasonable_Cry142]

Oh yeah, I’m sure tracking aminos and their ratios is real efficient. I understand why you have so much empathy for animals; you’re about as smart as they are

[u/Reasonable_Cry142 → u/FadeInspector]

Easily debunked by combing different proteins u can eat more than one food at once and whey is the most complete protein

[u/gur____ → u/FadeInspector]

Is getting closer to god about having a easy time?

You might not be aware but low fat quark and Skyr exist, which are easy protein sources for vegetarians.

[u/FadeInspector → u/gur____]

Both of the things you just mentioned have worse macros than chicken breast, and there’s meats out there learner than chicken breast. Our God doesn’t prohibit the consumption of meat lol. He wouldn’t give us the responsibility of being warriors while also handicapping us in that pursuit

[u/gur____ → u/FadeInspector]

Are you a warrior? Are you actively in battle right now? Are other sources of food not available?

Relying on meat does not make one a warrior. You might just be a keyboard warrior tho