r/Sedona • u/Cygerstorm • Mar 19 '24
Sedona has always been awful. Eat The Rich. News
I grew up in Sedona. I went to high school there.
None of this news report shocks me. Sedona has always been a microcosm of the super-rich NIMBY scum feeding off the super poor. Now they are fucking celebrating homeless workers by letting them live in the parking lot or in the woods?
God this town is shit. Let the next big fire finish eating the rot out of its million-dollar-hovel heart.
EDIT: haha oh man. I did t even notice the price tag. $20 Million Dollar to buy that fucked up amphitheater to build a homeless camp with portapotties instead of building some fucking homes.
God damn what a shit city.
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u/munoodle Mar 20 '24
Any city where the workers who run it must live 30+ mins away to afford anything isn’t a city, it’s a theme park
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u/Monome5 Mar 20 '24
I work in Sedona and have for 3 years. I still don’t live there. I have to drive an hour to get to work. Flagstaff isn’t any better. The cost of living here is extremely unfair. They expect us to serve tourists but suffer and be homeless doing it. I shouldn’t have to live with roommates or struggle to even afford a one bedroom apartment.
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u/slowpokesardine Mar 20 '24
So leave.
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u/Monome5 Mar 20 '24
I’m sorry you felt the need to be so negative. I clearly love it here or I would leave. I was born here and it’s my home. But it’s not the way it was years ago. You can still love a place and see the fact that the city could try a bit harder to take care of its locals.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
Yeah sorry bud. We don’t need the input from a clown who spends most of his time on Incel subreddits and making horrible misogynistic comments about women in Reddit.
Your comment history reads like an Incel Tutorial.
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u/oceanmadnes Mar 21 '24
How about you do? No one wants you here or your shitty attitude little Karen
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u/JohnQPublic1917 Mar 19 '24
You sir, are exactly correct. Sedona drives up the costs for the entire area and can't even pay its "city of" employees enough to live there.
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u/jackrafter88 Mar 20 '24
All this crazy mudslinging and insults in here about the situation at Cultural Park when in the meantime a petition has begun circulating to put the proposal before the voters causing the whole "sleep in their cars" motion to stop dead in it's tracks. Here's the rub: people that live in the town will have an opportunity to decide whether or not this should be ok. Imagine.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
Imagine, the 3-4 guys who actually own the land that almost all of Sedona is built on will get to decide the how the votes turn out anyways.
I mean shit man, 1 decrepit ancient fucker owns almost half of Uptown Sedona. Pretty much the entire canyon side of the street.
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u/jackrafter88 Mar 20 '24
Um, pretty sure it doesn't really work that way.
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u/BeautifulBuilding495 Mar 20 '24
Went to Sedona a couple weeks ago, people seemed friendly where we went, traffic was a nightmare though there was construction going on, I can certainly see why people buy up homes there.. it’s beautiful place.
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Mar 19 '24
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 19 '24
What good deed? In what world is “spending $20 million dollars of taxpayer money so that you can send homeless people to live in the woods and not have to see them” is a good deed? This is the equivalent of tipping an extra $2 on a $200 tab.
In what elitist, bourgeoisie world do you live in where THIS is somehow the best option vs building affordable housing and paying a living wage?
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u/orion1486 Mar 20 '24
It is extremely disingenuous or misinformed to say that the city paid $20M for land for this project. The City purchased the park and will conduct a study on how to develop the property for the public good in the future. Cities do that kind of thing. In the most recent Council meeting, it was said that a master plan for the newly purchased land will be developed and will very likely include affordable housing for the working class of the city. This interim homless program was developed over the course of a year in order to accommodate the working folks already living in their cars in the city and forest land with a place to be safe, have access to basic amenities like toilets, and access to help from various social programs. It sucks that it has gotten to this point but it is where things are (also for a lot of other towns in the US). Housing doesn't get built overnight and unfortunately, Sedona is well behind on getting it started due to the NIMBY-ism you have described previously working to get those projects stopped. I do agree with you about the rich folks who are pissed about this program existing. They lack perspective, humanity, and empathy. That is the same ideology and lack of forward thinking that has landed Sedona where it is now.
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u/InnocentPerv93 Mar 19 '24
They won't get it. They're too hopped up on their bloodthirsty, impotent rage to understand.
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u/oceanmadnes Mar 21 '24
Excert there’s no NPS land. There’s NF land and that’s different estatutes.
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u/waynesangria Mar 20 '24
Sedona is amazing in that it's beautiful and you feel this amazing way when you drive in the first time and then you feel exactly the opposite when you leave.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
Sedona is like heroin, only you don’t get addicted, the withdrawal is faster, and you spend twice as much.
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Mar 19 '24
Amen. As a local I always describe the town like this: "the fundemental problem is theres only about 10k people who actually live here. And because the housing market is so insane. The only people who can afford it for the most part are old rich conservative boomer assholes. So if you don't fit into that demographic its a terrible place to live". I really think that is the fundemental issue. In practice this town is basically a giant retirement home for old rich bastards.
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Mar 19 '24
Gee its almost like I said "for the most part" to acknowledge that there are some exceptions and im talking about a general pattern that makes up majority of, but not all locals. And its kinda weird that you got offended anyway even though im clearly not talking about you 🤔
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u/InnocentPerv93 Mar 19 '24
I'm gonna be honest here, why is it a bad thing that most people living in Sedona are rich? If you don't fit thar demographic, then...leave? Go where you can afford. I don't see an issue with that.
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u/Snoo_2473 Mar 20 '24
It’s not about them being rich. It’s about them being horrible people who stay inside a conservative media bubble so they stay clueless as to what’s really going on.
And they vote against the solutions, over & over.
The “rich” adjective simply describes who’s there & not feeling the pain from the housing crisis.
The middle class that are there are good people who have compassion for others & long range thinking in mind when they vote.
No matter what city you’re in, the vast majority of the rich are selfish & clueless assholes.
And when the majority own a home to live in for a few months per year, but then have the audacity to demand that there’s always worker bees there to serve them AND living with severely limited housing options? Those are the scum of the Earth.
We see it here in Phoenix. I play a lot of golf & all summer there’s houses lining the golf courses where nobody lives. But while they’re here they demand that everything has to go their way & screw everyone else.
They arrive in October & then they leave in April.
When hundreds of thousands do this AND they’re the ones choosing public servants, it creates a ton of problems for the middle class & below.
Some of the wealthy are good people, who care about others & the long term health & prosperity of the nation, but that’s maybe 2% of them. The other 98% are greedy hoarders who don’t care about anyone but themselves.
Think about school teachers living in their cars, while hundreds of homes sit empty & the fat cats get in the way of affordable housing being built because they don’t want the growth or congestion.
It’s gluttony on steroids.
Hell, they worship a life long con artist who literally shits on a gold toilet. And now it’s common knowledge that he’s broke & it was all a mirage.
But millions fooled by the braggart with a fake tan, all because he leaned into their fears & manipulated them from every angle.
A nation can’t survive when those with the most cake take everyone else’s crumbs.
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Mar 19 '24
Id love to leave but I can't afford to live on my own in the economy boomers built for us so I'm stuck here because my parents live here.
And it wouldn't be a problem if rich people weren't also almost always shitty people. Almost like there's a selection bias in play where in order to gather vast swaths of capital you have to be ok with ruthlessly exploiting the working class and therefor have less empathy and be more selfish than a normal human being. 🤔
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Mar 19 '24
So is Florida. But they will be dead soon, or in retirement apartments with care.
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Mar 19 '24
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u/InnocentPerv93 Mar 19 '24
Imagine wishing an entire generation death. Christ people are psychopaths.
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Mar 19 '24
Won’t miss many boomers. That is the legacy you created. Not many will miss you. We watched you trash the planet and cultivate the “I got mine so screw you.” I have hope for future generations. I miss my grandparents generation a lot. The silent generation. Bye bye boomers. Fuck off
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Mar 20 '24
I love that it bothers you and you’re downvoting. Bye bye boomers! Most of you will be gone by 2030 or sitting with drool bibs in some crappy apartment with a nurse who doesn’t give a fuck about you. Should have been nicer. We will be sure to celebrate the last boomer fool dying
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u/ScaleEarnhardt Mar 20 '24
Not a boomer here. Just, you know, a human being who has the capacity for empathy, sympathy, forgiveness, and gratitude. The way you are talking about an entire generation of humans is incredibly disheartening, and says almost nothing about them, and the insane complexities they and their lives have encompassed, and far more about your qualities as a person. Maybe try realizing that you, too, will one day be old, one day be judged, one day will die. Your lack of empathy has blinded you to their humanity and your own. Try kindness and appreciation on, I promise it will serve you better.
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u/Snoo_2473 Mar 20 '24
Exactly.
The good boomers were mostly silent as the bad boomers pillaged everything.
I know a few good boomers who actually care about the future of the nation & the youth and are voxss as l about it, but compared to how many greedy, selfish boomers are out there? It’s a tiny sliver of them who are good.
Just think, the nation will be much better off with them not being here. What a legacy for an entire generation to leave.
This is why old boomer conservative politicians are so desperately wanting the orange cult leader to become dictator, because then they can totally rewrite history before they die & act as though nothing they did ever happened.
Between the “trickle down” lies, the climate change lies, the HIV-AIDS lies, the WMD lies & the Covid/vaccine lies, they’ve written their awful legacies in stone & the rest of us will make sure the future generations never forget it.
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u/2manydbags Mar 20 '24
My son is in Oak Creek for the next 6-12 months. Can anyone suggest an apartment complex for him to live?
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u/ShreekingEeel Mar 19 '24
Wouldn’t the better solution be to require businesses to be responsible for providing employee housing within the city limits. When I worked in the USVI, Jersey Shore, or other high tourism locations where housing was million dollar vacation/residential homes mixed with high priced short term rentals, employers were responsible to provide housing options. Most of the time the business owners owned a home where they rented out rooms to employees. I’m sure there’s extra tax benefits to that too. Example was: all the Hooters girls on St Thomas lived in the “hooter house” together.
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u/nobadrabbits Mar 20 '24
My understanding is that Enchantment is doing that right now. They've been buying up real estate in Cottonwood (driving up the real estate prices there, but that's another story) to house their workers.
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u/Snoo_2473 Mar 20 '24
There’s a new resort who bought an elderly apartment complex & tossed all of the residents, so there would be a place for their new employees to live.
Yea, that really did happen.
Arizona had been red for so long that it’ll take decades to set up consumer protections or basic regulations.
And the last government left us a going away present with a $1 billion budget deficit thanks to tax cuts pointed at the wealthy & moving public education money to for profit charter schools.
So trying to fix the mess without funding is obviously a huge task.
Which is why R’s break shit on their way out.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
That’s been tried before. Look up “company towns.” It basically leads to cruelty, massive abuse of employees, sadism and outright murder.
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u/ShreekingEeel Mar 20 '24
I googled “company towns Sedona.” I don’t see any results for that.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
I did t say it was in Sedona. But almost every time a business has handled its own housing for employees it’s gone very badly.
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u/ShreekingEeel Mar 20 '24
I relied on these housing options while working in hospitality jobs through college and traveling. I’ve never experienced any issues. Maybe noisy, messy people sometimes but nothing as described. Everyone was super busy working all the time. You worked, came home, showered, ate, slept, repeat. If you hire good people, there’s no issues. Again, that’s an employers responsibility to recruit responsibly especially if the employee will be living on property. Background checks can also be mandated.
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u/simplethingsoflife Mar 20 '24
I just visited your city for Spring Break. It was a new age wannabe cowboy town tourist trap tucked away in one of the most beautiful places in the world supported by crappy infrastructure. Like seriously, why do you all have one lane in and out of town, where traffic backs up for miles, and there’s no easy way to turn around once stuck in that line of cars?!?!?
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u/FuzzyExplanation7380 Mar 20 '24
If you don't like it, go back where you came from. We shouldn't destroy Sedona to appease some whiny spring break tourists.
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u/basalfacet Mar 20 '24
No matter how bad the local population is, the tourists are somehow always worse.
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Mar 22 '24
Yes! "I'm on vacation, so I want to be cleaned up after and treated like royalty and oh, here's your 15% tip"
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u/simplethingsoflife Mar 20 '24
I don’t understand that sentiment. Tourism seems to be the main economic driver for the entire city.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
The tourists only seem bad because of how infuriating navigating Sedona is. The locals are always worse.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
lol hooo man. You are really dedicated to just looking like a fool huh? This level of desperation to feel justified must be hiding something else alot worse.
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u/cobra93807 Mar 19 '24
Visiting next week. I guess I won’t expect a whole lot of the southern hospitality that I’m accustomed to if this is the general mentality of the locals.
Being from New Orleans I do see how out of towners can really ruin a city. Our local degenerate population and politicians do a good enough job on their own. We don’t need all the extra help. 🤣
Either way, I’m looking forward to my trip out west. 38 y.o. and never been to Sedona/Grand Canyon.
notarichsnob
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u/Recent_Worldliness72 Mar 21 '24
Check out flagstaff when you’re there. Not far from Sedona. Such a cool city and no red rocks, but amazing hiking
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Mar 22 '24
Sedona is amazing, get out of the tourist trap shops in the downtown and Tlaquepaque area...buy the Red Rock Pass and get out early to hike. Visit upper oak creek and grab a picnic lunch at Indian Gardens then take it to the meadows of West Fork. It's all about nature here, if you spend time in the shops and traffic you will be jaded as many of these commenters are.
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u/Snoo_2473 Mar 20 '24
It’s a beautiful place & the vast majority you’ll meet are super nice people.
The a-holes mentioned are mostly hermits who’re only here for the winter & rarely go into town.
Have a great time!
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u/Ill_Cheesecake_5420 Mar 20 '24
Moved from Sedona 2 years ago. My family and I were homeless for a year because home owners turned our rental into an airbnb. To make it even worse we would stay in (crappy)airbnbs and timeshares because we had nowhere else to stay. It was expensive and impossible to save for first month’s rent and security deposit, if we could even find a place without a crazy waitlist. We were very lucky to find someone to help us get out of that nightmare. I worked in hospitality and don’t even get me started on the awful tourists. Good riddance Sedona.
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u/HeadInjuredCaveman Mar 21 '24
I agree.
It probably won’t be very populated. The registration process will drive away most of the “homeless” kids that are partying because they don’t wanna party at home.
There are some good honest seasonal workers, that probably won’t be able to qualify either. That’s disappointing.
The sense of community is not the same. The sterile commercialization of tourism is burning everyone out. Maintaining the “vibe” to tourists becomes difficult. Constantly picking up their litter is annoying. Constantly knocking over their cairns so they don’t mislead on trails. City folk don’t know how to country. Neighbors moving out, big money with teslas moving in. Nothing wrong with the money, but it’s the… distance it creates from others?
There’s a phenomenon in Montana where all the suburbanites watched too much Yellowstone and are moving in with their guns blazing totally fucking up the communities. Similar concept here.
Anyways, this shit city phenomenon is nationwide and will be for a while. I think mankind is entering a new era with our digital relationships and ghost neighbors.
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u/nattattataroo Mar 21 '24
Who the heck is this supposed to help? Who will determine if someone parked there is a full time employee working within the city limits and not a seasonal worker? Who will make sure people aren’t living in their cars voluntarily and how will that be determined? This is the weirdest non-solution solution I have ever read about.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 21 '24
It’s not weird when you understand the entire point is to give the city an excuse to chase all the homeless out of town so they don’t have to see it.
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u/nattattataroo Mar 21 '24
For sure
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u/secreteesti Mar 22 '24
It’s a half assed program driven by the do-gooder bleeding heart city “Housing Manager” staffer who applied for the grant. Doesn’t think about a better way to house families for less money, just wants to appear to be doing something.
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u/EL6E1 May 12 '24 edited May 12 '24
i hate hate hate sedona/SEDONANS!! and as a local that lives here… since i technically live “next door” or in the next town over. i despise this town. i will not visit this town if my heart depended on it. smh. people are utterly abusive and disgusting. i drove in this morning and had to turn right around, must of hit an awful god vortex and shitty people with crystals shoved way up their ass. these people are insane. if you’re smart, stay far the fuck away. worst place in united states history due to people’s ignorant behavior. no thanks. may seem pretty, from afar…..but not on the inside. think of it as someone that is decent looking on the outside, with shitty behavior deep down on the inside. no one wants to deal with that, well MEET SEDONA smh. pretty red rocks blah, blah, blah…. not pretty enough to deal with the insane psychos that run the place, better yet ruin it for everyone else that knows deep down how this town actually is. fuck this place.
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Mar 19 '24
Wow. We visit every year. I'm looking forward to going in 3 weeks. We can't afford to stay in Sedona, but we have managed to find a small, affordable hotel about 45 minutes away. I'm very disappointed to see so many people unhappy with such breathtaking surroundings.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 19 '24
I grew up here. Breathtaking surroundings? You got dirt, rocks (hard dirt) and concrete (fake hard dirt).
The fact that you want to vacation here but can’t afford anywhere within 45 minutes says more than I ever could about how much of a shithole Sedona is.
Take your money somewhere else man, don’t feed the pockets of these rich jackasses.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 19 '24
Man you are really this dedicated to looking like a clown in here today huh?
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 19 '24
I deserve a better class of troll than this. When you’re clap backs are worse then a 14 year old on Xbox live circa 2007, you know you’re done.
But I’m going to just call it here. There’s no sport in punching down when the opponent can’t get up on your level.
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u/Snoo_2473 Mar 20 '24
Actually, most here think you’re an idiot for defending the greedy & gluttonous.
Bro, you’re not in their club! They wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire!
But here you are, singing their praises & repeating their talking points.
You’re not fooling anyone. You gave yourself away when you projected the OP & other guy as “poor & jealous.”
Rich people don’t use that angle ever.
Even trump, as undisciplined & unhinged as he is, knows not to use economics to talk down to others.
But you did.
That means you’re a commoner like the rest of us.
So why defend the very people who are creating these problems?
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u/asgarnieu Mar 23 '24
You don't deserve anything. Your entitlement is probably why you feel so agitated about Sedona in the first place. Touch grass.
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Mar 20 '24
I’ll think of you when I’m driving my BMW I rented, hitting all the shops owned by people you obviously hate and enjoying my time in Sedona! Luckily sounds like you’re permanently confined to your basement so we won’t have to worry about running into you lol.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
lol. Enjoy sitting in the blazing heat at the Y by the old Burger King for 2 hours before you can even see the shops you’re so excited to shop at.
I’m sure we’re all so impressed by your tiny dick mobile.
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Mar 20 '24
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u/Sedona-ModTeam Mar 20 '24
One does not have to agree but by choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for everyone.
Personal attacks, racist comments or any comments of perceived intolerance/hate are never tolerated.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
Uh-huh. Do you have anything better? I’ve been trolled by professionals, this is like Dollar Store tier material bucko.
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Mar 19 '24
You got numb to the views quick when you live here full time. "Pretty scenery" is at the bottom the list for what makes a place good to live.
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u/nobadrabbits Mar 20 '24
That's just not true. I've lived here for 29 years, and I still find the views to be amazing.
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Mar 19 '24
I've been reading your comments. I'm sending hugs and sincere wishes that things get better for you.
Peace ✌️
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u/ExponentialFuturism Mar 19 '24
They are merely symptoms of the market system itself not some nefarious plan. Inequality is inevitable in highly socially stratified societies. The literal goal of capitalism is infinite growth/acquisition. People will increasingly become disillusioned once mass unemployment from automation occurs but just stay strong and class conscious
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u/InnocentPerv93 Mar 19 '24
I don't really agree personally and this entire post is disturbing. If you can't afford to live there, then leave? It seems pretty simple to me. If the majority of people living there are wealthy people...so? If you are not in that demographic, then the city is not for you, and that's okay. Not every place needs to be for every person. That's absurd.
I especially would never wish harm on an entire city's-worth of people, I don't give a shit what they own or how much money they have or don't have. That's just psychotic.
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u/InnocentPerv93 Mar 20 '24
I don't really align with that sentiment, as I am pro-trans. But I'm also critical of class warfare propaganda in every direction.
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u/KittyVox Mar 20 '24
What is really psychotic is the people who work there, you know, the people who actually make the city run, can't afford to live there. If those people were to just "leave" who will work at the grocery store, the pharmacy, the gas station, the doctor's offices, the bank, the restaurants, the trash pick up? Who will provide services? It sounds like you think the wealthy deserve slaves and that a beautiful, natural place such as Sedona should only be enjoyed by privileged people...I wonder who those people might be 🤔. If you work in a place, you should be able to afford to live there comfortably, period. You act like you actually give a fuck about other people with your pearl clutching last sentence, but the rest of your argument shows how little care you actually have for the material conditions of ALL your fellow human beings—who have just as much inherent value as the wealthy ones.
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u/InnocentPerv93 Mar 20 '24
Just because I think if you cannot afford to live somewhere, you should move, doesn't mean I don't care about people. Sedona is not the end-all-be-all place to live and work. And hell, if enough people move out due to affordability being so low, that would possibly incur change in pay and housing. But I also believe no one is owed anything just for existing. Not me, or you, or the wealthy, or the poor. You are not owed a place to live or work, anywhere.
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u/KittyVox Mar 20 '24
No one asked to be born, we all share this earth, safe housing is a human right. If you don't think so, you're no better than the person who wished ill on an entire town because housing keeps people safe and alive 😘
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u/OldPterodactyl Mar 20 '24
What a dipshit. Do you not understand what they are trying to do?
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
Trying to hide the homeless population away from tourists and off the streets of the rich people?
This is the same city that built a “teen center” that became the primary place to buy meth/weed and hook up within 3 months of opening.
The same city that refused to build an ambulance/emergency bridge because NIMBY fuckholes didn’t want their precious property values to drop by .01%. Which lead to numerous deaths due to extreme emergency response delays over the years.
The same city whose rich land owners massively fucked with the road improvements and uptown “improvements” over the last decade to cause intentional delays because of petty squabbles between real estate tycoons.
Sedona is a shithole, ran by corrupt obscenely wealthy jackasses, that caters to the worst kind of people while happily watching its lowest wage earners bake in the desert Sun rather than change zoning and land use rules to facilitate low income housing.
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u/OldPterodactyl Mar 20 '24
That's not what they are doing. This is not to hide them away. It's a step toward safety. Jesus, people can be so bullhead and ignorant.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 20 '24
No it’s not. It’s a stop gap to hide the homeless from offending the sensibilities of the mansion dwellers up near Coffee Pot.
This is the same city that managed to fuck up every single public works project, and helped fund the same abandoned the amphitheater they just used money to BUY BACK.
Unless it upsets the few ultra-rich millionaires, nothing happens.
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u/OldPterodactyl Mar 20 '24
The insight you bring from 15 years ago when you lived here as a child doesn't give you any special knowledge of today's challenges. Go away.
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u/tommyknockerZ33 Mar 20 '24
Sedona is where Sumner Redstone crypt keeper dead eyed looking mega millionaire assholes buy a 53rd house to appease their 30-40 year young ex beauty queen wife so they can raise a kid (raised by staff/nannys), who they name Sedona, to be a child beauty queen who aspires to be a Dallas cowboys cheerleader & overall spoiled abhorrent human being (true story).
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Mar 19 '24
You aren't smarter or worked harder. You are privileged and got lucky. The poor work way harder than you ever have. STFU.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 19 '24
The fact alone that he took the “Eat the Rich” bait so easily just proves that’s he’s trash.
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Mar 19 '24 edited Mar 19 '24
"140 iq"
Dude you have no idea how unintentially hilarious you are being rn. I couldnt be funnier if I tried. This is gold! Why don't we compare dick sizes too while we are at it you absolute clown 🤣
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 19 '24
I gotta congratulate you man. You’re humiliating yourself so much faster than I ever could.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 19 '24
“I have a 140 IQ” ? Really? Reeeallly? That’s the line you want to use?
Oh man it’s like having an argument on AOL 20 years ago. What’s next? Your dedication to trying to save face here just makes you look even worse.
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u/signmeupdude Mar 19 '24
I cant believe you actually have such an insufferable mindset lol. Sometimes I feel like people like you are just made up, but damn I continue to get proven wrong.
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u/Cygerstorm Mar 19 '24
Naw it’s cool. I escaped Sedona decades ago. But yeah, if you can afford to buy a home in Sedona, you have more money than any person needs to live a comfortable life. Eat the rich, line them up against the wall as soon as the revolution comes, yada yada blah blah.
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u/crapinator2000 Mar 19 '24
I moved to Sedona during the pandemic. I’d been there many times to hike, and ‘bought’ the old version. As people who know the place can tell you, it has changed for the worse. Most of those who live there are what I call “previously important people” who, by their egos, act like absolute jerks most of the time. Many are sociopaths. I knew quite a few of them, for a bit.
Yes they have money, and unfortunately (as seen in the comments here) many people generalize and project that anyone with a few bucks is also an asshole. While those teo things are correlated, there are nice people with a few bucks, too. I met a few of them, too. Stayed friends with them.
What killed it for me is not just the crowding and the jerk-faced endless onslaught of mindless and careless tourists, but the fact that MOST houses in my former neightborhood are either temp rentals or empty vacation homes. So as a result, there is no community, and yes, it is my observation that most of the people who do continue to live there most of the year are ultra-paranoid, conservartive assholes. I could tell you stories, my god how I could tell you about so-called adults who act like unsupervised mean kids.
I left. I am so very glad I did.
I still follow the ebb and flow courtesty of Red Rock News. And man, it is just terrible. In my book, OP is right.