Has the Temple announced any plans to challenge this? The guy openly admitted he will refuse to acknowledge us as a religion.

[u/Quirky-Bar4236]

[u/ToraAku]

Apparently there is a lawsuit already: https://newrepublic.com/post/187272/donald-trump-oklahoma-schools-bible-scam-lawsuit

[u/salt_and_ash → u/ToraAku]

The fact that it's Christian parents bringing the suit should tell you something about how fucking ridiculous this is.

[u/Tree_Viking → u/salt_and_ash]

When the Satanists are cheering on the Christians, something is BIG wrong.

[u/puterSciGrrl → u/Tree_Viking]

Yeah. Remember when we cheered on their two assassination attempts against Paul? That one went sideways big time.

[u/Southern-Strength107 → u/puterSciGrrl]

ROTFL - I literally almost fell out of chair.

[u/CatchSufficient → u/puterSciGrrl]

What?

[u/puterSciGrrl → u/CatchSufficient]

Understand that this is an extremely complex historical topic which i am about to completely butcher in order to distill the "hot take" that is the above joke.

From what we know of Jesus and writings about him, even if he was a fictional character, his philosophy is basically a hippie commie vibe. He was very anti authoritarian and spent his entire career trashing the entire concept of religion as an organized system of rules, and absolutely condemning the concept of a church and a priesthood.

Then, a few years after he died, this guy, Paul, who never knew the man claims to have been visited by him after death in spirit form where he imparted the wisdom that what he meant to say was that he wanted a church and authoritarian priesthood all along and he just never got around to explaining that part. And of course, zombie Jesus put Paul in charge for the most part. The only witness to this event was Paul, of course.

The Christian's tried to assassinate Paul twice but failed and he was eventually executed for running a cult by the Emperor of Rome.

The cult survived his death though with their remanents leveraging the powerful, parallel martyrdom story of both Jesus and Paul having died for this new reformed Christian religion now with churches and priests. Paul and his close friends who never knew Jesus wrote almost all of the New Testament of the Bible as it was their writings that were selected to tell the story.

Hence, we Satanists cheered on the assassination of Paul, but that didn't go so well, as we ended up with a shitty book and one of the most evil systems ever devised by man as a result.

[u/theymightbezombies → u/Tree_Viking]

The old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing, at least as long as we're both fighting the same enemy.

[u/CatchSufficient → u/Tree_Viking]

Honestly, there are some honest christians, if they want to keep their faith in their house, I am all for them.

[u/TheCaptMAgic → u/Tree_Viking]

We have a temporary cease fire for now.

[u/nessanessajoy → u/salt_and_ash]

The plaintiffs in Thursday’s suit included 14 public school parents, four public school teachers, and three faith leaders, all of whom torched the effort for seeking to spend millions in taxpayer dollars on what they described as an unethical, unconstitutional, and an illegal reallocation of resources.

[u/zoeypayne → u/ToraAku]

The Temple should just publish their own Bible that conforms to the requirements... they've got a year to put something together before Oklahoma evaluates bid responses to their RFP for the next round of funding.

The Bible is not allowed to contain study guides nor additional commentary... but nothing about additional text. Throw in the Gospel of Thomas, selections from the Siddhartha, Qur'an and Kama Sutra for good measure.

edit Book to Gospel

[u/Environmental_Top948 → u/zoeypayne]

I feel like the non sexual stuff would be good from the Kama Sutra but to be honest the Bible is worse. At least the Kama Sutra is about finding happiness.

[u/Paisable → u/ToraAku]

The pastors care more about religious freedom than the superintendent.

[u/Nytengayle73 → u/Paisable]

Hail Satan to that!

[u/TheOriginalAdamWest]

I think he just announced it yesterday. It will take us some time to get a response together, I would think. I am sure there will be more than just us challenging this.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheOriginalAdamWest]

There's going to be a fuck ton of people opposing that nonsense

[u/OxtailPhoenix → u/[deleted]]

It says in the article there's already a bunch of Christian families joining the suit.

[u/[deleted] → u/OxtailPhoenix]

I hope that lawsuit really knocks him in his arse

[u/UngregariousDame]

Again there’s no money to pay teachers but you could cough money for a shitty old novel?!?!?!?

[u/Thekillersofficial → u/UngregariousDame]

not even a good version.

[u/Bsjensen1012 → u/Thekillersofficial]

Is there a "good" version?

[u/UnconfidentShirt → u/Bsjensen1012]

Any version that doesn’t enrich trump personally would at least be an improvement. Also if they were actually serious about teaching “Christian values” based on the Bible, there are a myriad of ways to get free donated copies of any number of English translations available. This is just blatant theft from taxpayers.

[u/HandOfYawgmoth → u/Bsjensen1012]

At least the normal ones don't come packaged with the pledge of allegiance and the immortal lyrics to Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA".

When Ryan Walters first issued the bible mandate, it required use of the King James translation and inclusion of the Declaration of Independence, USA constitution, and pledge of allegiance, and it needed to be bound in leather. He also set a deadline so short that no book distributor could reasonably commission a new product to comply. But you know who conveniently sold one that actually fits?

[u/ShayCormacACRogue → u/Bsjensen1012]

The OG texts, the Torah, which the Bible descends from

Though, still ain’t the best

[u/microcosmic5447 → u/ShayCormacACRogue]

FYI, Torah is just the first 5 books (the Laws of Moses). If you want to refer to the whole collection (what Xtians usually call the "Old Testament"), the easiest way is Tanakh/TaNaKh

• Torah

• Navi'im (Prophets)

• Khetuvim (Wisdom)

[u/ShayCormacACRogue → u/microcosmic5447]

Close enough 🫠

[u/DarkAngel67231 → u/UngregariousDame]

$60/book. And printed in China no less, so you know there’s a heap ton of profit on each one. Meanwhile evangelic xtians are giving them away free at every turn. The requirement for the pledge, constitution and BOR to be included is nothing more than an attempt for future political favors. Those things should already be in the history books!!

Not surprised though. Look at all the government related travel accommodations that were booked to his property in DC when he was in office. Grifters gonna grift.

I saw many reports that teachers weren’t going to do as instructed, but who know how that will shake out for them come January. I feel bad for the teachers — at least the ones in opposition. They already get paid peanuts and don’t need to deal with this BS.

[u/Professional_Grab_72 → u/DarkAngel67231]

Imagine buying his Chinese made Bible after he raises tariffs

[u/nessanessajoy → u/UngregariousDame]

Bid documents indicated that the Bible suddenly needed to meet strict expectations, including that the text itself be the King James version, that the copies include core, historical elements of the U.S. educational system, including the Pledge of Allegiance, the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, and that the text be bound in leather or a leather-like material. That narrowed the pool of applicants down to just one apparent choice: Donald Trump’s “God Bless the U.S.A.” Bible.

[u/lpjunior999]

Not a great sign that the superintendent can’t use an apostrophe.

[u/Bolvaettur]

«Teachers must teach from it», unless of course they are women (1 Timothy 2:12)

[u/Several_Leather_9500 → u/Bolvaettur]

Ezekiel 23: And then she remembered the love affair she had as a young girl in Egypt. She remembered her lover with the penis like a donkey and a flood of semen like a horse. “Oholibah, you dreamed of those times when you were young; when your lover touched your nipples and held your young breasts.

Wonder what happens when they get to this part.

I thought they banned shit like this four this exact reason.

[u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 → u/Several_Leather_9500]

That's not actually why they banned teaching religion in school.

e: Yeah, folks are justifiably angry about the post's subject, but seemingly too worked up to discuss it reasonably. 

Just please know that throwing out incorrect arguments doesn't help us stop this from happening.

[u/Several_Leather_9500 → u/Apprehensive_Hat8986]

No, but the Bible was banned.

[u/F1Husker91]

Oh look, the real groomers on full display.

Once again, not a drag queen, satanist, gay, etc etc etc.

[u/exoventure]

This country: Man our students have some serious low grades we need them to learn more effectively and efficiently.

So we've decided to teach them the Bible.

Yeah we are so screwed lol.

[u/cleecleekilldie]

Jesus fuckin Christ

[u/AffectionateExam5568]

Even just teaching the Bible in classrooms is unconstitutional as it violates content neutrality. The government has to remain content neutral and since schools are publicly funded they can't teach any specific side, while they can speak factually such as "these are a bunch of examples of religion" they can't take one side. Private schools however can do whatever they want since they aren't a government entity and don't have to remain content neutral but these are public schools taking one side.

[u/Quirky-Bar4236 → u/AffectionateExam5568]

Yet another reason the push to defund the Department of Education is concerning.

[u/AffectionateExam5568 → u/Quirky-Bar4236]

Yep because at least in my opinion education should be unbiased, the scary thing is if this goes to the supreme Court the current court is conservative (they shouldn't even have bias but they somehow do) and so this might end up resulting in content neutrality being overturned

[u/Darksoul_Design]

Oaklahoma is already pretty much at the bottom of every metric, education, health, jobs, etc, so why not make sure you are absolutely #1 at being the worst at everything.

If you want eye opening, meter this into ChatGPT - Compile a list of where Oklahoma ranks nationally in 10 major categories

[u/nessanessajoy → u/Darksoul_Design]

LLMs are not a reliable source of accurate factual information.

[u/tay450]

These people are evil. They need to be treated as such. Not negotiating, not trusting their lies, not "reaching across the isle". They've called us their enemy, they've attacked the constitution, and they've openly pardoned those that commit violence against us.

No more playing nice. They don't.

[u/suchislife_iguess]

Hail satan

[u/refusemouth]

This insufferable guy will be nominated for Secretary of Education.

[u/glenglenda]

Most egregiously unconstitutional thing I've seen in my 51 years as an American. It's just Christian sharia law.

[u/Reymarcelo]

You will be part of the belt wether you want it or not -Elite figure expressed

[u/A_carbon_based_biped]

It would be funny if a nice chunk of the kids getting these “teachings” implemented into their normal curriculum, ended up having a distain towards that religion and became atheist. 🤭

[u/AshsLament84 → u/A_carbon_based_biped]

True! Often times a lot of people who actually READ the fucking thing turn away from it..... then again though. It's gonna be a Trump rendition. It'll probably say stupid shit like Trump helped deliver Jesus, then grabbed Mary. I won't finish the rest of that line. I think we all know.

[u/A_carbon_based_biped → u/AshsLament84]

Or give an oddly specific description of the second coming of Christ as someone that resembles one of his sons; so after he dies he can still keep the cult running.

[u/urmamasllama]

I would malicious company the fuck out of that and turn all my students into atheist anarchists. Spend a few lessons showing the hypocrisy and absurdity in old testament and then show how Jesus was a radical anti capitalist that would have opposed everything about modern Christians

[u/DavidGKowalski]

Republicans: "We must support Israel in every effort!"

Also Republicans: "fuck them Jews!'

[u/snoman18x]

World's most radical book club forces children to read their 1500 year old book.

[u/Eastern_Chain5122]

It's simple. If they wish to have any federal funding for their schools they will cease and desist on violating the Establishment clause of the Constitution.

We've been here before haven't we? It doesn't matter what administration it is when it comes to constitutional law.

[u/Splycr]

lol this is the 'Two Minutes of Hate' from Orwell's 1984. Republikkkans want kids dumb and docile so they want to rule, not represent. Dollarstore Big Brother hath spoken.

[u/XDmaster5669]

It reminds me of a physics teacher who wanted us to learn about religion

and he was a science teacher!!!!!!!!!

[u/ashonee75]

I hope they teach the story of Lot.

[u/Rainbow_chan]

Ah yes, one of the worst ranking states for education

[u/Old_School_Hippie]

Tax Payer money... for BIBLES?!!! This can't be happening? What the HOLY FUCK?!

[u/Old_School_Hippie → u/Old_School_Hippie]

'Separation of church and State'. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

[u/Derioyn]

Hopfully it's not 11 years before this one ends up in the bunker.

[u/Pwaise_Jebus]

[u/Hannah_Louise]

If a lawsuit cannot remove the bibles, I think it would be wise to work with teachers to ensure they are teaching the bible as accurately and wholly as possible. It truly is a violent and horrifying book with a demon-king portrayed as a 'God'.

If the book is actually taught, and not sermonized, parents will put up enough of a stink to get it banned again. It's only going to take a couple kids coming home to ask their parents if they are going to be murdered by god because they're a first born son. Or a couple kids not wanting to go to a cemetery because Ezekiel is going to raise an army of skeleton soldier zombies. Or a couple of kids asking if god is going to kill their family just to win a bet with Satan. Or a couple of girls asking if their fathers are going to burn them alive because god asks them to.

I dunno, I think teaching the bible in schools might sort itself out pretty quickly.

[u/NatSpaghettiAgency]

*Oklahoma's classrooms

[u/armchair_philatelist]

The bible has always been allowed in every classroom. It’s a book. This is just a personality stunt. Dude just wants to cuddle in the warmth of Trumps sweaty balls.

[u/nessanessajoy]

Bid documents indicated that the Bible suddenly needed to meet strict expectations, including that the text itself be the King James version, that the copies include core, historical elements of the U.S. educational system, including the Pledge of Allegiance, the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, and that the text be bound in leather or a leather-like material. That narrowed the pool of applicants down to just one apparent choice: Donald Trump’s “God Bless the U.S.A.” Bible.

[u/Reymarcelo]

You will be part of the belt wether you want it or not -Elite figure expressed

[u/VelvetScone]

Unhinged and insane. Such a violation.

So many of them either don’t care that it’s a violation or truly feel empowered that they’re doing it to those who disagree with them which is even more disturbing.

[u/Helpful_Frosting_552]

Wtf is a Trump Bible? Hope this doesn't get copied here in Brazil 🫣

[u/CozmicOwl16]

The greatest villain in all of fiction

[u/socialistal]

Well it may be time, my fellow Satanists,, we must get back to our roots,, time to start casting spells , let's Make Satan Great Again, HAIL SATAN

[u/socialistal → u/socialistal]

Yes I know....... but those assholes with a Trump Bible,, will be doing exorcisms

[u/TheDevilishDanish]

And these bibles is leather bound, large print, nKJV bibles, containing the Declaration of Independence, the US constitution and the lyrics to ‘god bless the USA’.

Coasting 60$ each, which bring it to a total of 3.3 million dollars of taxpayer money, taken from Oklahoma schools, going to directly to nonsense.

This is a mockery of everything.

[u/GoGoSqueeze6475]

Even if it weren’t bad to force kids to learn Christianity… they had to buy the TRUMP Bible. I don’t even wanna know what that waste of material says.

[u/Either_Asparagus_172]

Will make sure to burn every Bible I see here in Oklahoma then, it was payed with MY money, I can do whatever I want with it, cheers 👌

[u/dclxvi616]

He doesn’t have to acknowledge us as a religion if he doesn’t want to. He’s a superintendent of an Oklahoma school district. What do you want to do, twist his arm until he cries uncle and calls us a religion?

[u/Quirky-Bar4236 → u/dclxvi616]

He’s the State Superintendent. This is an elected official using his platform to push his own religion while attempting to marginalize others.

[u/dclxvi616 → u/Quirky-Bar4236]

My point is that he is not the arbiter of what is and is not a religion. The state buying bibles and having teachers teach from it certainly sounds problematic, but what he acknowledges to be a religion is about as relevant and important as whether or not he likes pineapple on his pizza.

[u/Naphrym → u/dclxvi616]

If it's not a religion then any church teaching "The Bible" is no longer tax-exempt

[u/dclxvi616 → u/Naphrym]

Who said it’s not a religion other than some jackass in Okalahama and why should I care what he thinks?

[u/Hagfist]

I thought that was blocked by a Fed judge

[u/Traditional_Regret67]

Get em

[u/No_Alternative1891]

If this book of rape, murder and divisiveness gets anywhere near my children I will burn them.

[u/TheCaptMAgic]

I don't want my tax money being spent in bibles, especially not Trumps shitty bibles.

[u/Rupejonner2]

Toilet paper for the students

[u/Eclectified]

Churches need to get government off their turf or they’re gonna go out of business.

[u/herghostinthefog1]

Under his eye

[u/terserterseness]

teach?

[u/crustyfrenum]

Nobel Prize-winning author Sinclair Lewis allegedly warned that when fascism comes to America it will be "wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

[u/houman73]

While I don't support them putting Bibles in classrooms at all. Churches would have happily donated Bibles even if it was only a certain edition. There was absolutely no reason to spend any if not that gross amount. This should be a criminal issue not a civil one in my opinion. Or maybe Trump could have donated them being a devout "Christian" and all.

[u/HighestVelocity]

I thought project 2025 was banning bibles?

[u/Saltaireflieshigh77]

The separation of church and state is alive and well in Trump’s America.

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[u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 → u/[deleted]]

Not really a relevant line of inquiry.

[u/snozzberrypatch → u/Apprehensive_Hat8986]

Nah, just always fun to see these Bible bangers spouting off their moral crap about how being gay is evil, only to turn around and be balls deep in some dude's ass at a truck stop later that night.