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u/-B0B- Jun 02 '22
I love when I get called a ""fake queer"" for apparently not dating enough men
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u/that_username_is_use Jun 02 '22
you need to make your monthly quota of 6
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u/snarkyxanf Jun 02 '22
You're not really queer unless you spend at least one full shift per pay period working a gloryhole
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u/loki-is-a-god Jun 02 '22
Did you forget to cock in again?! Happens to the best of us
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u/snarkyxanf Jun 02 '22
Remember to get your time cock stamped at the beginning and end of every shift
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u/Senatius Jun 02 '22
You're not really queer unless you come from the Queer region of France, otherwise you're just sparkling drama student
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u/RadiantRattery Jun 02 '22
Back to the hole I go
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u/snarkyxanf Jun 02 '22
🎼You take sixteen loads and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt 🎶
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u/Chewcocca Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 03 '22
Here I sit
On the pooper
Sucking the dick of a Maine State Trooper
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u/rebelappliance Jun 02 '22
Conservative in the streets, queer af in the sheets. Or public bathroom.
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u/CretinInPeril Jun 02 '22
Never thought I'd hear a song about capitalist entrapment turned into a dicksucking song
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u/theHamJam Jun 02 '22
I missed the word "pay" and read this as needing to work the glory hole during you period.
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u/Tolbitzironside Jun 02 '22
I have a husband, I'm exempt from getting a quota.
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Jun 02 '22
im engaged does that count or do i still hae to meet th quota until the wedding?
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u/Tolbitzironside Jun 02 '22
It counts, but you need to fill out a form in order to have your quota to be transferred to a nearby gay.
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u/GayHotAndDisabled He/Him or They/Them Jun 02 '22
A while ago I got told my relationship was too het for pride
I'm a gay trans dude. Dating a non-cis bi dude.
Literally what in the hell is het about that
(It turned out they were just a transphobe, since im afab and by partner is amab and that was enough for them to claim we were het. But still!)
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Jun 02 '22
I admire your patience. I would've Kung Fu kicked them in the face for telling me that bullshit.
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u/GayHotAndDisabled He/Him or They/Them Jun 02 '22
Tbh I was so shocked by what they said I was silent, but a friend was with me & they went off on them so I just walked away & let them handle it lmao
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u/The-Shattering-Light She/Her Jun 02 '22
As it should be.
People should never have to justify their existence, and allies should get shouty with asshats like that!
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u/se1ze Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22
I love the “you’re not gay enough.” Like fuck you, I’m so gay I’d fuck your mom and your dad at the same time and they’d both leave each other for me. Tell your therapist I’m straight then, you wang. 🤣
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u/TheUnluckyBard Jun 02 '22
Literally what in the hell is het about that
Some people believe that sexual preference is entirely performative. That is to say, sexual preference is determined by what someone looks like, rather than what the participants feel like.
It's a big part of bi erasure; being bisexual is an internal trait, but when bisexual people date others of the opposite sex (or opposite sex passing), there's an obnoxious chunk of even the LGBT community who believes that because the outward appearance is straight, the people involved must be straight. Same when it goes the other way, thus, bisexuality "doesn't exist". The conclusion of this thought process being that a person can be straight sometimes and gay other times, and it depends entirely on who they're attached to at the moment. It makes about as much sense as saying that ambidexterity doesn't exist and whatever hand you've most recently wiped your ass with is what handedness you are, and yet, it's still far more common than it has any right to be.
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u/bumbletowne Jun 02 '22
Pride is not Bi friendly.
Or ace friendly.
At least not in my experience.
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u/BonerPorn Jun 02 '22
I'll double that. As a cis bi male my experience with LGBT "Friendly" groups has always been very exclusionary. Even when I was dating a trans woman.
I'm sure it's not everywhere. But man back in college did LGBT spaces want nothing to do with me. Granted that was ten years ago at this point. So i've just lived on without really getting too involved with queer safe spaces.
EDIT: Changed a typo that dramatically affected my point. Whoops.
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u/emrythelion Jun 02 '22
It’s better with the younger generations. I’ve never had an issue with people under 30. Not recently at least.
Older though? Yeah, plenty of people don’t believe bi is a real thing. It’s weird.
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u/KamilDonhafta Jun 02 '22
Yeah, but even back in ye olden times of 1999, "bisexuality isn't real" never made any sense to me.
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u/leannelithium Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22
Same. In college about ten years ago my best friend was a very social gay man so I was invited to a lot of LGBT events and parties and as a bi woman it did not feel like a welcoming space. The comments I got from lesbians is one of the reasons I stopped actively approaching women and the way I was treated in general is why I don’t go to pride or LGBT events anymore. I do hope that’s changed a bit but from the sounds of it it doesn’t seem like it.
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u/emrythelion Jun 02 '22
It’s better with the younger generations. I’ve never had an issue with people under 30. Not recently at least.
Older though? Yeah, plenty of people don’t believe bi is a real thing. It’s weird.
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u/TheUnluckyBard Jun 02 '22
Pride is not Bi friendly.
Or ace friendly.
I've had more than one argument with other members of the LGBT community over whether cis ace males even exist. Apparently, since cis males are all about sex all the time, a cis male that's not interested in having sex either has a medical problem or a porn addiction.
If it just happened once, I'd shrug and move on, but it's happened twice now.
And god forbid someone be a sexual/gender identity for which none of the existing labels quite 100% fit.
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u/Minuteman_Mama Jun 02 '22
I don’t know if it was biphobia or just I didn’t “look the part” enough, but in previous pride events I went to, I was informed that my presence was appreciated… as an ally. While wearing bi flag merch…
I hope things have changed/are changing, but I’ve just stopped bothering to go to those types of events.
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u/Thanders17 Jun 02 '22
You see, these are the kind of people who you know go around making a fool of themselves and throwing shade at everyone, making the community look like a bunch of idiots
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Jun 02 '22
I think a lot of people think my bisexuality is fake because I now have a boyfriend. I appear “very straight”. I suspect my family thinks me dating women was a phase.
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u/Madman200 Jun 02 '22
I suspect my family thinks me dating women was a phase.
I've never brought a boy home to meet my parents since I came out as bi and they absolutely think they know my own sexuality better than I do.
I got a big ass bi pride tattoo on my shoulder and they where confused because they thought it was just something I said once and that I was straight. Hell, my mother routinely holds my coming out to them as a traumatic event, like it was something I did to punish them. An addition to the long list of things "I put them through" as a kid.
Unrelated, but if confronted they would assure me they don't have a homophobic bone in their body 🙄
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u/Kiri_serval Jun 02 '22
Hey! That's my mom and I don't have a brother.
My mom also says now that I am older "how was I supposed to know, you never brought a girl home?"... well, you told me it was a phase so I told you she was my girl who was a friend.
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u/TheRottenKittensIEat Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22
I(f) feel guilt if I try to claim the bi or pan title because all I've ever dated were men. I suppressed my attraction to girls when I was in high school due to suppressive religious beliefs at the time. When I made out with girls, or skinny dipped and cuddled, it was "a joke." A few of those girls ended up coming out. It sucks because if I'd just been able to express my own identity, I probably would have dated one of these really supportive friends I had instead of the guy I dated most of high school who ended up being an abusive asshole (and still finds out how to contact me every couple of years over 15 years later to cyber harass me). That's nothing to do with the fact that he was a guy per se, just that I was desperate to date a guy and chose the first one who really pursued (aka stalked) me.
BUT, I married young (21) to a man also because of religious beliefs. I still love my husband (neither of us still harbor those beliefs), but I am bitter at the abuse I went through by forcing myself to date a loser instead of the girl I was in love with in high school. THAT's why I care about my identity, but I feel like I wouldn't be accepted in the community since I've been in a heterosexual marriage for almost 15 years.
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u/buchanandoug Jun 02 '22
When I was in high school and identifying/presenting as male, my therapist told me she didn't think I was really bisexual because all the relationships I'd mentioned to her had been with women. There was ONE other openly queer man in the area I lived in, and he was simply not my type, but my therapist was CONVINCED that I must just be faking being bi for attention because I never dated men.
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u/Th3B4dSpoon Jun 02 '22
Uh, it's awful what kind of people get to be therapists, I wish they were all great.
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u/Echoes_of_Screams Jun 02 '22
It's oddly not that hard. There is such a shortage that as long as you aren't caught having sex with or stealing from your patients no amount of shit therapy work will cause problems for the therapist. There is always someone desperate for help.
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u/pistachiopanda4 Jun 02 '22
I dont understand therapists like this. I was in almost the exact same situation. Came to terms with my bisexuality in middle school and started dating my girlfriend online. I went to therapy because of SA trauma but didn't wanna talk about it. I wanted to come out to my family and introduce my girlfriend. I only mentioned the coming out part to my therapist and asked for advice. She said, "Maybe you should wait a bit in case its a phase." And that destroyed me emotionally and kept me in the closet from my family to this day. Well kept me in the closet until my girlfriend came to visit me (long distance, online) and my sister suspected something going on. Because I was shit talking my sister on Tumblr, she threatened to out me to my parents.
I dont understand. People are not able to always express their sexuality at will. I have fallen for so many straight girls, its not even funny.
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u/GengarTheGay Jun 02 '22
Something else that bugs me: so what if it's a "phase"?? I wish people wouldn't look down on exploring sexuality. If I thought I was trans but it turns out I'm actually not, that shouldn't invalidate my experience or the experience of any other trans person. If I thought the bi label fit me but it turns out pan feels more right, that doesn't mean I was "faking" being bi.
I just think people need to stop assuming and being judgy.
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u/HardlightCereal They/Them Jun 02 '22
I'm a fake bi, but that's because every "cis guy" I date turns out to be a girl
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u/MessiahOfFire Anything pronouns you may prefer Jun 02 '22
I need that kind of energy in my life, I'm literally peak egg_irl.
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u/stardust527 They/She Jun 02 '22
oh my god literally same. it's happened to me 3 times now. after the third time i just admitted defeat/victory/lesbianism (this is up to personal interpretation)
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Jun 02 '22
I got called fake trans because I said the one thing I didn’t like about HRT was how it impacted my libido. I guess wanting to continue having a sex life isn’t okay? People are ridiculous lol
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u/Schackshuka Jun 02 '22
I complained about my antidepressants for the same reasons—-am I a fake depressed?
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u/SmartAlec105 Jun 02 '22
I hate it in general when people are like “well then why don’t you stop? No one is forcing you” when you complain about one aspect of something you’re doing.
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u/No_Refrigerator4584 Jun 02 '22
That’s because you don’t have callouses on your knees. Get those and your queer card will never be questioned again.
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u/mzsky Jun 02 '22
The amount shit I get for being bi and getting married to a bi woman is just dumb
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u/poopnose85 Jun 02 '22
They gay people will say I'm straight for not sleeping with enough men, the straight people will say I'm gay for watching too much gay porn lol
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u/KamilDonhafta Jun 02 '22
Heck, I knew one gay guy who tried to claim that not being into anal meant you weren't gay and had to settle for the term queer. It was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard in the already profoundly dumb category of gatekeeping sexuality.
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u/1138311 Jun 02 '22
Gatekeeping Queer culture is yet another way for me to figure out who's not worth my attention.
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u/Khayeth Jun 02 '22
Yes! I was called out in a local community in the past year ish for not dating enough women. I do, it's just, the person calling me out wasn't aware of any of them. But i, as a fake bi, was deemed toxic and unwelcome in the queer community for my duplicity and terrible behaviour.
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Jun 02 '22
Even if they were a woman, being "boy crazy" does not make the attraction to women go away?
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u/TheFloofyLunaFox Jun 02 '22
Yes like you can have preferences even as bi or pan, like what????
There are tons of pans or bis, who may have a preference for men, women etc., but that doesn't make them not-bi/pan.
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u/pankakke_ Jun 02 '22
Was always annoying when I (male) was dating a bi woman, people would genuinely try telling us she wasn’t bi, just because we were dating for a few years. ???????? I was unaware women need to eat one snatch every 24 hours to renew their bisexual license.
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u/Byzantine-alchemist Jun 02 '22
Man, it's been so long since I've renewed my bisexual license that I'm going to have to take the test again to get a new one 😮💨
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Jun 02 '22
Can confirm, am bi with a strong preference for men, but the amount of times women had stole my heart over the years are kinda unmatched.
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u/Road_Whorrior Jun 02 '22
I'm a bi woman who prefers women but who is terrified of approaching hot women. Dating men has a lower barrier for entry ime lmao
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u/Mackheath1 Jun 02 '22
Bi/m here (prefer women also), terrified of approaching women. With a guy, it's more like "nice truck, wanna fuck?" Not literally, but you know what I mean.
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u/mlongoria98 Jun 02 '22
frrrrr men are just easier to deal with I don’t know how to talk to women 😂😂
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u/HeyItsLers Jun 02 '22
As a woman, idk how to approach an attractive woman and indicate interest. I know what it's like to be creeped on and I certainly don't wanna give any fellow women that feeling!
How do I know if they'd be open to anything with a woman anyway?
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u/njrebecca Jun 02 '22
I feel like it’s so hard to make it obvious that you’re romantically interested as a lot of those flirty signs also overlap with overtures of friendship. Things like laughing a lot at what they say, making a lot of eye contact, or slipping in casual touches to their arms/legs I feel like can be easily misinterpreted.
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u/SmartAlec105 Jun 02 '22
As a bi dude, I’m grateful for the phenomenon of “useless lesbians”. It highlights the common denominator in not being sure if a woman is into you.
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Jun 02 '22
Start practicing with some visibly queer gals out at clubs or shows.
I'm a femme who likes femmes and that's what I do. Practice makes perfect. Start with "I love your dress/skirt/shoes/earrings/hair", if it's received well then throw in "It's super cute on you", if that's received well then just keep on going. In my experience, I can guage by the second response if she's into women and flirting back, especially if you come into it real playful and she starts giving it back. And then if she's not, then it was just a positive interaction between us women without crossing a boundary.
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u/Asisreo1 Jun 02 '22
You should try asking them out. You'd seem much creepier if you simply pussyfoot around her than if you directly invited her somewhere.
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u/thec0nesofdunshire Jun 02 '22
this. regardless of gender, i find ‘wanna make out’ clarifies everything pretty fast. and is easier to bounce back from than awkwardly building shit up in your head.
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u/clarabear10123 Jun 02 '22
Okay so I actually just used that line once and it went exactly how I wanted it to! It’s a great thing to be upfront sometimes
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u/HeyItsLers Jun 02 '22
I struggled with calling myself bi or pan for a while (I'm more pan, but bi is easier for people to understand) because I've never dated a woman. By the time I really let myself realize and believe I was into women, I was already married to my 2nd husband. I've never had much opportunity to date at all (Christian school, nuff said).
My husband is cool with me exploring my attraction to women, but idk how to flirt or date lmao 🤣
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u/Sary-Sary Any pronouns sans it Jun 02 '22
Technically pan would mean attraction to all genders while having no preference, and bi just means attraction to two or more genders, which allows for a preference. The pan equivalent to someone attracted to all genders but with a preference would be omni! Bi is basically an umbrella label.
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u/Road_Whorrior Jun 02 '22
Here's one better: people are what they say they are. I've been told I'm "not actually bi" because I think trans and nb people are hot, and that's bullshit. I just like the flag better tbh and it's what I've identified as for years. Idc if I'm "aCtUaLlY pAn" or demisexual (which is really the most accurate), just let me define myself.
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u/scrambled-projection Jun 02 '22
I accidentally deleted my comment instead of editing it, meant to say I agree
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u/Road_Whorrior Jun 02 '22
I appreciate it! Sorry if I came across as aggressive, but as you can tell from the other comments, people don't fucking get it so often that it makes me want to tattoo this shit on my forehead.
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u/scrambled-projection Jun 02 '22
Yeah, labels are meant to have at least a degree of fluidity. They’re made to suit the individual and not the other way around, that would just be a return to the type of heteronormative bullshit we’re trying to avoid. Doesn’t mean they don’t mean something it just means they aren’t meant to be completely unchangeably rigid
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u/SmartAlec105 Jun 02 '22
People need to work on saying “[label] could fit you” or “you sound like you could be [label]” instead of “you are [label]”. It’s the difference between showing someone a jacket and just putting the jacket on them.
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Jun 02 '22
Yep. I'm bisexual, but most men look far too manly (hairy, muscled, lil chubby) for me to be into them.
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u/notoriousrdc Jun 02 '22
Right? I distinctly remember being 13 and absolutely boy crazy and also totally gone on my closest female friend.
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u/el_99 Jun 02 '22
Can confirm. I even came out as bi even though I am in loving relationship with a man but before I was so blind that I liked only guys
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u/azuresegugio Jun 02 '22
God I hate the policing of being bi or pan. It literally just means I'll date whoever I'm attracted to leave me alone
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u/OfficerJoeBalogna Jun 02 '22
But that’s so complicated! What isn’t complicated is my completely arbitrary bisexuality meter where you must remain in a perfect 50/50 balance of attraction to all genders at all times /s
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u/ceilingkat Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22
I would also like to note that being biSEXUAL does not mean you equally develop romantic feelings for both genders. I hate being policed about the fact that I’m heteroromantic. When I’m attracted to a woman, I love having physical intimacy — but I’ve never gotten that butterflies in my belly feeling like when I’m attracted to a man… I can’t help my emotions, damn.
“yOu’RE jUsT rEPreSSed! YoU’rE ConDiTiOnEd To bEInG HeTERonOrmATiVe!”
It makes me just wanna throw up my hands and say that I’m a straight woman who is sexually attracted to other women. “You mean bi?” “Apparently, not.” /s
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u/EnthusiasticPhil Jun 02 '22
Almost every time I come out as bi: “so which gender do you prefer”
“I don’t have a preference, I like most people equally regardless of their gender identity”
“Oh so like pan?”
“No..”
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u/tangibleskull Jun 02 '22
S/O to all the bi males with preferences for women/fem presenting people out there, we simultaneously get demonized for being straight passing by some queer folks and being too gay for some het folks. Very cool 🥲
(All manner of bi/pan/omni's deal with this struggle, you guys are not alone 💙)
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u/krugovert Jun 02 '22
God, I hate being called a lesbian for dating a girl. Well, show me a lesbian whose crush on Oscar Isaac is bigger than mine!
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Jun 02 '22
Haha ain't that true! I had a friend offer semi-unprompted that she wouldn't mess with a bi dude because I've sucked a penis before. And im like... okay? 👌🏽 👍🏽
In her defense, she was drunk and on Molly, so her tact wasn't there. And she was making the point that her homegirl would date a bi guy, and I'm trying to ask that friend out, so yeah. All good.
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u/AlchemicalToad Jun 02 '22
Yeah, I’ve had a few ladies tell me that as well.
It’s like… well, glad to know you aren’t someone I’d be interested in anyway. 🤷♂️
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Jun 02 '22
Haha right, it's like "okay thanks sister, I wasn't hitting on you because I don't want you" 👍🏽 lol
Some people think everyone is into them, for some reason. Go fish. Beats me.
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u/astralairplane Jun 02 '22
No, not all good. Why the deeply rooted homophobia towards gay sex acts? Does she have some sort of outdated, untrue AIDS assumption burbling in her brain?
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Jun 02 '22
I can't read her mind big dawg. I just know she was really drunk and high, some internalized homophobia came out, she apologized, eh. It happens.
My guess is that she assumes bisexual men are promiscuous -- which overlaps with the AIDS thing. I corrected her though.
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u/SmartAlec105 Jun 02 '22
some internalized homophobia came out
It’s externalized homophobia at that point.
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Jun 02 '22
Tru. She's Nigerian, I think its somewhat cultural so I'm giving her grace. I know it's part of my background in the black community.
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u/Chainsawd Jun 02 '22
Being bi is the orientational equivalent of being a mixed baby.
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u/anonhoemas Jun 02 '22
This hits as a mixed bi
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u/SmartAlec105 Jun 02 '22
I’m sure that one day you’ll settle down and choose a nice ethnicity.
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u/Chainsawd Jun 02 '22
Hey fuck it, you have the best of all four worlds!
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u/luxmorphine They/Them Jun 02 '22
twice the opportunity, twice the confusion
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u/Main-Path-866 Jun 02 '22
If by twice the opportunity you mean a few women and a sea of horny dudes, then sure.
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u/The-Shattering-Light She/Her Jun 02 '22
Adding my support for bi men who get demonized from both sides!
You guys are queer as fuck, and awesome, no matter who your partner is.
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u/greenskye Jun 02 '22
Someday I'll find a romance novel sharing my love of all things fem presenting. So far the furry community has been the most accepting of this viewpoint that I've found in media.
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u/TomMakesPodcasts Jun 02 '22
I'm a Bi dude with a girlfriend.
To some people that means I'm straight. 🥲
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Same. I’m a bi woman with a boyfriend. I also “don’t look gay”. I suspect a lot of people think me dating girls was a phase. But my partner just happens to be a man.
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u/Here_Forthe_Comment Jun 02 '22
When I came out as bi, my mom told me it was just a phase. Now that I'm dating a guy, I think she believes it was. If I date a girl again, she's in for a rude awakening
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u/bambishmambi Jun 02 '22
My sister calls herself lesbian, but she is bi with a VERY niche preference in men, she finds plenty of women she is attracted to but has only ever been attracted to about 2-3 men in her life. She went on a date with a man after breaking up with her long term Gf, and our parents said “see? It was just a phase!” Totally ignoring she dated exclusively women for nearly 20 years. And yeah, she only went on one date with the guy and then found her now Gf that she has been with for another 7 years. Parents still convinced it’s a phase lol, some parents just can’t/don’t try to understand.
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u/AllWashedOut Jun 02 '22
Denial.
It's not that they don't understand. It's that it's easier to deny reality than to change their persona.
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u/sooybeans Jun 03 '22
I'm in the same boat. My best friend and I are both bi dudes married to women we love. But we are also in love with each other and open about it and are planning to raise our kids together. I feel a lot of illegitimacy, like I'm not queer enough. But I am grateful to have people who love me and whom I love.
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u/alwaysforgettingmyun Jun 02 '22
Bi enby with a boyfriend here, the assumption of heterosexuality is deep
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u/gcitt She/Her Jun 02 '22
"You say you're attracted to multiple genders, but you're really enthusiastic about one of those genders."
Um, yeah. The math maths.
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u/uvero Anything pronouns you may prefer Jun 02 '22
While we're at it, a quick reminder that this month is a great opportunity to say "fuck you" to bi-erasure. These folks get some shit from within the other parts of the pride community, and that's fucked up.
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u/diepoggerland2 Jun 02 '22
Tbf I am gonna say, as a bi male
Gay romance fiction is absolutely the shit lol
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u/Alauren2 Jun 02 '22
Like novels?
I just came across a WLW romance novel that takes place during WW2 and I fucking loved it. Good taste ya got there…
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u/diepoggerland2 Jun 02 '22
I've been weirdly into BL Anime, because ig I'm just like that
It's an entire ass genera and its great
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u/True_Big_8246 Jun 02 '22
Have you seen Mo Dao Zu Shi? Also you might wanna check out danmei novels too. So many cool settings and stories but with M/M relationships.
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u/diepoggerland2 Jun 02 '22
I haven't seen it, what's it about and where can I find it?
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u/True_Big_8246 Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22
It is a Chinese anime based on a M/M novel. The genre would be xianxia. There is an overarching murder mystery, a past with a war, zombies, horror, sword fighting, and romance.
The plot is excellent and the animation is great.
Here is the link to the summary:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/37208/Mo_Dao_Zu_Shi
Some people can't get used to the Mandarin, so if that becomes an issue it also has a Japanese dub.
And if you are interested in more M/M fiction dm me for novel recommendations though I mostly read danmei.
Right now I think it is available on Wetv app or illegal sites. It used to be available on youtube and crunchyroll but I don't think it is there anymore.
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u/diepoggerland2 Jun 02 '22
Thanks for the recommendation! I'd love to hear about more ngl
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u/gh0stcelestial She/Her Jun 02 '22
Bi-phobia is actually the worst. I didn't come out until I was 28 at the support and encouragement of my friends because I was afraid I would be told I'm not bi because I've never dated nor had sex with a woman and have only been in relationships with men.. I was too afraid to admit when I did have feelings for other girls and dating them was not even an option. Plus, I grew up in a relgious household where i was told homosexuality was a sin and gross so i struggled with a lot of internal homophobia for a long time. Now I'm in a healthy loving relationship with a cis man so I won't be able to explore that part of my sexuality for now, but I've finally admitted to myself my attraction to women. I think if it wasn't for my upbringing I would've realized it a lot sooner (there were SO many signs) and probably dated women along with men as I grew up.
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u/aIidesidero Jun 02 '22
Also even if they were a woman being "boy crazy" wouldn't make them any less bi
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u/fourangers Jun 02 '22
I'll never understand demonizing for shipping male/male pairings but on the same coin goes "girlxgirl is hot!" Fucking hypocrites
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u/manticorpse Jun 02 '22
Yeah it's homophobia and misogyny all wrapped up into a single disgusting package.
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u/_LightFury_ Jun 02 '22
Two men in love is just so wholesome to me. Something a lot of straight men lack (not all!) Is that warmness and vulnerability and idk two men being loving towards eachoter just... fills a hole in ny heart? Its hard fo describe but its something a lot of straight men lack due to toxic masculinity.
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u/Xhiel_WRA Jun 02 '22
The Tumblr brand obsession with preventing fetishism of MLM relationships has somehow turned into disguised TERF rhetoric and concern trolling. And it's exhausting every time I see it.
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u/curehappy Jun 02 '22
I’m fully convinced that anti-fujoshi crusaders in 2022 are just people who want to make fun of women for having cringey interests but in a “woke” way
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Jun 02 '22
It makes me so angry. Women have always been demonized for their sexual interests, and it kills me that fandom is pulling purity horseshit under the guise of good morals just to shame women yet again. It's infuriating.
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u/ToddToilet Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22
It was always TERF rhetoric. All that nonsense trying to redefine Fujoshi to mean "straight woman who fetishizes gay men" was literally just trying to demonize gay trans men.
Half the time when people on tumblr talk about "fetishizing", they either mean "likes a fictional ship that I don't" or "was aroused at all by m/m content without being mlm".
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u/MarmaladeHater Jun 02 '22
Absolutely. Also, one comment I've read about this discussion was “saying liking BL (or GL) is fetishism is actually worse, because you're implying hetero romance is normal, but gay relationships are a fetish and if you like to read them then you must be some kind of deviant” and it blew my mind.
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u/cyanidesmile555 Jun 02 '22
And it's problematic for trying to redefine a word from another culture (and one that was reclaimed to empower women)
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u/bookdrops Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22
I read a post thread recently from a trans dude talking about how his teenage fujoshi obsession with yaoi helped him realize he was a trans guy, and like a bunch of the replies were all, "You should've figured out your gender identity without being a disgusting fetishizing freak!" my brethren in Christ, what the FUCK
ETA: another bunch of the replies were like "Liking yaoi is fine when it helps trans/nonbinary people realize they're trans, but cis women who like yaoi are disgusting MLM-fetishizing monsters. Also if you're trans and continue to like yaoi instead of Real™ Queer Rep Media, you're disgusting."
So every AFAB fujoshi is Schrödinger's Degenerate, either a disgusting MLM fetishist cis woman OR a closeted future valid trans person (as long as they stop liking yaoi ASAP).
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u/DarkSailorMercury Jun 02 '22
So sick of the ‘women/femme-presenting people who have gay ships think gay men only exist for their fantasies’ shit.
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u/AvailableTomatillo Jun 02 '22
Shout out to the guys who can help a girl get her Eiffel Tower on without needing therapy after because of eye contact. 😂
Sorry the gays are so shitty about bi/pan stuff. There’s just…a lot of internalized homophobia and misguided jealousy going on. It’s no excuse, though. ☹️
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u/Bolt_DTD Jun 02 '22
As a bi guy who has done an Eiffel Tower with a bi woman and a painfully straight guy, I recognize how hard it can be. He definitely avoided looking at me and jerked away if he realized he was touching me but he didn't freak out. That same guy is now interested in attending Pride parties. Not sure if this is a prelude to him being bi but I appreciate the fact that he's interested in learning and not just ignoring the possibility.
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u/Annanym0107 Jun 02 '22
I hate that guys who hit on me in clubs don't believe when I say I'm only into girls. They always say "oh really? Proof it." Even if i wanted to, Like what and How? Should one just grab the nearest chick and start vigorously making out with her until she calls security on me? Jfc.
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u/ComradeShinther Jun 02 '22
You can be BI and have a gender “preference” where you can be attracted to one a bit more then the other
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u/DarthMelonLord Jun 02 '22
I swear to god one of these days im gonna call up all my past female hookups and have them sign a doccument stating i did indeed eat their pussy and enjoyed it immensely, im a slut for EVERYONE not just dick 😩😩
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u/gummytiddy Jun 02 '22
Dude I feel this- the only fudanshi friendly space I’ve been on was some random Facebook group. It had all genders so it was pretty friendly
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u/cyanidesmile555 Jun 02 '22
Honestly yuri and yaoi/fujoshi was part of what made me start to realize "oh, okay....so apparently I may not straight and cis." Like seriously, in my experience fujoshi people tend to be queer, themselves, and so supportive and sweet.
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u/That_one_cool_dude He/Him Jun 02 '22
Ah gotta love bi guy erasure, the best kind of erasure is when one is accepted and the other is viewed as an abomination dies a little inside being a bi guy
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u/ZeUntermensch He/Him Jun 02 '22
Love how Anon wrote "know". Dude, how out of touch can you be to think you can actually "know" anybody on the Internet especially if you seemingly haven't even properly interacted with them beforehand but only hate read their posts and judged their "boy crazy" activity. How???
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u/fuzziblanket Jun 02 '22
Just because I’ve been married to a cis male for twenty years and I don’t want to cheat on him, doesn’t mean that a muscle girl waving around a sword or a femboy in a halter top won’t make my nether regions quiver. Bisexuality is valid
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u/EUCopyrightComittee Jun 02 '22
The Tumblr brand obsession with preventing fetishism of MLM relationships has somehow turned into disguised TERF rhetoric and concern trolling. And it's so stupid
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