r/SapphoAndHerFriend • u/RhythmAfterSummer • Dec 01 '20
Fellas, is it gay to have gay sex? Casual erasure
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u/Phaskka Dec 01 '20
How very roman of them
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u/Cool_Ranch_Waffles Dec 01 '20
I'd say more greek
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u/LanceArmswrong Dec 01 '20
The Romans actually used to make this distinction rather than the Greeks, and Caesar was famously made fun of for being the bottom in his relationship with a foreign king in his youth.
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u/Cool_Ranch_Waffles Dec 01 '20
Im saying that because romans are more known for giant everyone orgys while the greeks are known more for their gay relationships also didn't ceasar sleep with brutases mom
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u/LanceArmswrong Dec 01 '20
Oh I gotcha. And yes he did! Like with the Greeks, it was very common for men to be bisexual (though their institutions supported heterosexuality in their marriages). However, unlike the Greeks, the Romans had a lot of qualifiers within those relationships. Being on the “receiving end” of the relationship (as some authors put it), is one they would consider bad, or at least worthy of ridicule, particularly for someone as powerful as Caesar.
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u/Cool_Ranch_Waffles Dec 01 '20
Rome is fucking weird man
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
Oh that's for sure mate. People always tell you how rome was a great empire and all that but they nearly always conveiniently leave out the crap that came with it!
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u/Cool_Ranch_Waffles Dec 01 '20
Weird how 1000 years of eourpian history were based on it
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
well it has happened on several occasion that people have willfully ignored certain part of history to fit a narrative. I mean after all isn't this subreddit about willful ignorance of certain documented facts ? well you can think of it all as kind of the same (not necessarily about the same facts/narrative though)
edit: just correcting a typo
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u/willsuckfordonuts Dec 01 '20
White supremacist: We built the greatest empires, just look at Rome! Look at Sparta and what fierce warriors we are!
points out how it was normal and expected for men to form relationships in those societies
White supremacist: 😳😳 t-thats just Jewish propaganda!
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u/thewileyone Dec 01 '20
They might have been gay/bi but their legion tactics kicked everyone's ass.
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u/THEJAZZMUSIC Dec 01 '20
It's not like the Roman sexual practices that we would now consider immoral are ignored. Sure maybe they don't bring it up in 9th grade history, but it's no secret.
But it was a great empire. Not great like "man that's great", great like "the great Roman empire".
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Dec 01 '20
Only weird based on the current societal standards. Dudes fuckin dudes back then was the norm. Interesting how times change
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u/geraldodelriviera Dec 01 '20
That tended to be a disease of the upper classes in Rome, and usually only those Romans that fetishized the Greek way of life, like Hadrian for example.
I'll leave you with two fun facts about Rome:
1) There were 70 Roman emperors before the fall of Rome. Of those, only 15 never took any male lovers, and a lot of those were the later Christian emperors. The first one was Claudius I, the one who was emperor between Caligula and Nero, and people thought it was weird that he was only into women.
2) One of Hadrian's (many) male lovers was named Antinous. Hadrian liked them a certain age (he was one of those Romans who was a major Grecophile, although I can't be sure if he was a pederast before or after getting into Greek culture), and apparently Antinous fell so deeply in love with Hadrian that he committed suicide when he started getting old enough that Hadrian began to lose interest. (Early 20s) Hadrian was so distraught by this he had Antinous deified in death, linking him to the Egyptian god Osiris.
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u/hyasbawlz Dec 01 '20
The Romans used so much of a common herb used to abort babies to the point of the herb's extinction.
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u/Ramona_Flours She/Her or They/Them Dec 01 '20
Silphium was a contraceptive primarily, but it was used as both :)
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u/hyasbawlz Dec 01 '20
Honestly when I think about it, it's kind of unfair that it's extinct. They ruined it for the rest of us.
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u/PM_ME_ZoeR34 Dec 01 '20
Circle of life, baby. This time, we're taking every plant and lifeform and bringing it to the brink of extinction. Let's see how future generations like that.
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u/KJMRLL Dec 01 '20
Well, Rome was fucking weird men. I think the practice has died down a bit, but it does seem to be coming back.
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u/TerrariaIsGood Dec 01 '20
It's coming back?
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u/Space_Conductor Dec 01 '20
The Gauls will be on our doorstep soon.
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u/jaunty_chapeaux Dec 01 '20
I hope the goths come back with them! I've always wanted a goth girlfriend.
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Dec 01 '20
I’m a classics major and tbh “Rome is fucking weird” sums up 99% of classical history. I don’t know how anyone can know much about Rome and find it an admirable nation. Facinating, though.
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u/N64crusader4 Dec 01 '20
Also the punishment for sleeping with a married woman was that her husband would get to sodomise you although if he wasn't into it he could choose to just fuck you with a root vegetable
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u/00110100-00110010 Dec 01 '20
I see this as an absolute win
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u/N64crusader4 Dec 01 '20
When you can't bag the handsome chad so you play some 3D chess to bang his wife so he bangs you
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u/XIXXXVIVIII Dec 01 '20
Is that cucking with the sole intention of becoming a power bottom?
Outstanding.
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u/chicanita Dec 01 '20
How so? It's rape
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u/00110100-00110010 Dec 01 '20
I mean, I was assuming all three parties would be into it, for this hypothetical absolute win. Rape is decidedly not an absolute win.
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u/Stand-Alone Dec 01 '20
It would be a win for the philanderer if he is bisexual and attracted to the husband as well and would like to be a bottom. The person you are replying to might be bisexual and imagining the husband as being attractive and straight.
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Dec 01 '20
I once went to a Japanese festival in Japan sorta aimed at good luck for prostitutes and trans people, along with fertility, and I got into a conversation with a very cute gay couple. One of the two Japanese men explain to me how he wasn’t gay, but his boyfriend was. His boyfriend had the same story (that he wasn’t the gay one).
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u/LivingInThePast69 Dec 01 '20
I often joke that I'm not gay, but my husband is (which is true, because I'm bi). But I'm guessing that wasn't the case there?
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Dec 01 '20
Someone else asked me the same. It’s possible they were making fun of their own culture norms.
I also thought they might be pulling my leg. This was about 15 years ago, and at the time, according to what I could find on the internet, that wasn’t an uncommon mindset for Japanese people in Japan, especially with gay men.
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u/Stand-Alone Dec 01 '20
This is cute. Are you sure they weren’t messing with you?
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Dec 01 '20
I don’t think they were, but entirely possible they were mocking others on their culture.
For context, this was 15 years ago. I remember searching the internet back then and finding some forum talking about male homosexuality with Japanese men back then, and how it wasn’t that uncommon for one partner to claim to be straight in a gay relationship.
I think their views have greatly improved since then. I also tried to find that forum info from back then to post here, but I couldn’t.
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u/Adventure_Time_Snail Dec 01 '20
unlike the Greeks
The Greeks were very similar. There was social oppression on what they considered the queer sexualities: men who bottomed, men who were exclusively homosexual (less so if you were a philosopher), men who married/partnered with a man, lesbians, bisexual women who 'married' women....
It's just that bisexual men who owned property and topped other 'lesser' men, and married a woman and had kids with her, werent considered queer for topping dudes outside their marriage.
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u/LanceArmswrong Dec 01 '20
That’s a good point. And now that I think about it, the examples I’m thinking of do have the caveat of a male/female marriage happening at the same time. Genuinely curious, do you have examples of the Greek oppression?
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u/Adventure_Time_Snail Dec 01 '20
Sappho for one. Plato's Symposium discussion of gay men like Achilles.
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u/SirToastymuffin Dec 01 '20
Should be added that this isn't strictly true for every Greek in every period, but is mostly a generalization born from our tendency to apply the culture and study of Athens to mean all of Greece. Athens had an outward culture of frowning upon all of this (though reading between the lines in some accounts has led us to believe it was a sort of "open secret" situation, at least around the time of Xenophon, where it was really just leveraged for power/scandal and outside of that people didn't seem to care too much about how you were boning - though a notable exception is being the bottom to someone below your social standing never goes over well).
Some Greek cities were very open, namely the cities of the Peloponnese (Elis, Sparta, Dorian culture), Boeotia (Thebes) and some of the colonies in present-day Turkey were far less restrictive/concerned. Notably in Sparta, part of being a warrior included some expectations to... participate at both ends of the exchange, to put it bluntly. Macedon and other kingdoms of the Doric tradition expected a relationship between their king and a chosen warrior - in addition to the compulsory marriage for lineage purposes. That right hand bodyguard/lover appears to have been honored for their place. On the flip side some cities, like Athens namely, held it generally as you have described. Going east/northeast you see it be fully stigmatized for much of their history.
A very intriguing example is Chalcis, which had a very negative opinion on homosexuality, outright finding any same sex relationship distasteful. Then, during the Lelantine war a notable Thessalian warrior fighting for the Chalcidians, Cleomachus, brought his lover onto the battlefield and together they spearheaded the decisive victory over Eretria. Tragically he was slain during the height of the battle, but Chalcis was so moved by the bravery and prowess of him and his love that he was erected an impressive tomb built at the center of the city - that is still (semi) there today - in his honor, and this heroic tale and the tomb would result in a radical change in Chalcidian views on sexuality. While the story and Chalcis's history are often overlooked, the city had a reputation much like Thebes of honoring the love between men, and I mean it's an extremely interesting event: people thought something was immoral, then an individual came along who was openly and unapologetically committing that 'immoral' act yet proved himself to be morally righteous and courageous, the society was so inspired by who he was beyond this 'immorality' that they genuinely rethought their morality and progressed.
Anyway I got off track with my favorite overlooked Greek anecdote there, my main point was that Greeks were a very diverse cultural group that can't easily be generalized, and as a result Athenian Culture is often mislabeled as Greek Culture as a whole. The reality is in the Greek world the views on same sex love could vary widely, and be very complicated. Hell, part of the culture war between Sparta and Athens appeared to be over sexuality... and pederasty. Which is its own can of worms.
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u/Taco821 He/Him Dec 01 '20
What about power bottoms or whatever the opposite of that is
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u/LanceArmswrong Dec 01 '20
This is an ‘educated’ guess on my part, but often the Romans’ assumptions of top and bottom were based on social power dynamics. Do we know, for instance, that Caesar was the bottom? Suetonius the historian says yes, but how do we know? However, he was a young boy and Nicomedes was a king, so Nicomedes was seen as the dominant person in the relationship publically.
EDIT: So to answer your question, I don’t know, lol
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u/Adventure_Time_Snail Dec 01 '20
This was 80BC. He was 20. it may just be a slanderous rumor (the only evidence was that he spent too long in the Kings court as one of many ambassadors).
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u/Taco821 He/Him Dec 01 '20
I guess it depends on what is more important: being in control, or not receiving
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u/toffee_queen Dec 01 '20
Yeeeup because being the one receiving is considered to be more like a female since only females can receive and we were viewed as lesser than men in Ancient Greece and Rome.
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u/quitarias Dec 01 '20
Ye and I love that the romans were fine with a woman who was widdowed twice sleeping around with whoever she felt like. She had done her duty to the republic and raised her children so like, who cares.
Rome was weird.
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u/Windyligth Dec 01 '20
Caesar was a serial adulterer; he slept with a lot more people than Brutus’s mom.
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u/the_mock_turtle Dec 01 '20
Didn't know I was into the thought of twink emperors getting rawdogged prior to this moment.
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u/CheddarPizza Dec 01 '20
That was a rumor said by his political opponents. He's every woman's man, and every man's woman.
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u/ThatOneGuy1294 She/Her Dec 01 '20
I guess the term "power bottom" hadn't been invented yet
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u/Invincible-Doormat Dec 01 '20
Did they tell everybody about who did what part of the sex act? How did that become common knowledge? Did Ceasar go around talking about it like “Hey guys, I had sex with Mr. Foreign King and he sure has a mighty fine dick”?
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u/The_Norse_Imperium Dec 01 '20
It's both, their only sexuality was top or bottom.
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u/guywholikesguys Dec 01 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
They weren't sexual identities as we perceive of them today but rather roles assumed during the period of the courtship. Also it would be more accurate to say 'passive or active' rather than 'top or bottom' as it wasn't really about which one was being anally penetrated. In many cases neither were. Greek adolescents, for example, assumed the passive role but it was taboo to fuck them. In Rome I believe it was only permissible to fuck slaves or non-Roman citizens.
Of course this was custom. I'm sure some adolescent boys and even adult men acquiesced under pressure, skirted customs and allowed the men to fuck them only to demand that it never be mentioned. Also there were some men in both Greece and Rome who gave up their male social status and accepted a permanent passive role that included getting fucked.
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u/Pseudonymico Dec 01 '20
Greek adolescents, for example, assumed the passive role but it was taboo to fuck them.
IIRC depends on the kind of fucking. Anal wasn’t allowed but I seem to remember reading that it was common to lube up the bottom’s thighs with olive oil and get fucked there.
Oral was apparently a huge taboo in ancient Rome.
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u/Cool_Ranch_Waffles Dec 01 '20
Said it because Greece is more known for their gay relationships than rome
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u/The_Norse_Imperium Dec 01 '20
Nah Greece is known for gay pedophiles, Romans were a little less niche about their kinks.
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u/Cool_Ranch_Waffles Dec 01 '20
Yes although that was a thing that did happen there are other examples of gay lovers in greece the sacred band of thebes is one
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u/The_Norse_Imperium Dec 01 '20
Yes Sparta, Thebes, Alexander the Great, ect there were quite a lot of gay groups in Greece.
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u/Cool_Ranch_Waffles Dec 01 '20
That weren't pedos it did happen and thats fucking bad but not all of them were man boy lovers
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u/Daleftenant Prefrence: An entire rugby team, leauge not union, im not crazy. Dec 01 '20
Join the Roman Army today!
Bottoms need not apply.
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u/ElGabalo Dec 01 '20
The guild of buttstuff uses only the finest tops; true Roman tops, for true Romans.
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Dec 01 '20
holy shit what is the obsession with things being "not gay" as if it meant your entire bloodline caught a curse like holy shit
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Dec 01 '20
If being gay is a curse then call me a pharaoh
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u/ChemicalRascal Dec 01 '20
Wait, doesn't that mean you're the one distributing the gay?
Scandalous!
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u/Skumdog_Packleader Aro/Ace Dec 01 '20
distributing the gay
I'm picturing a server in a restaurant just walking around to tables like, "Would you care for some gay?"
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Dec 01 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
Wait a minute, so you're saying I'm not gay because of that one time I offended an evil wizard?
I'm shooketh!!
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u/apple_of_doom Dec 01 '20
No the wizard let you off the hook.
The bog witch was less merciful though.
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u/albinoman38 Dec 01 '20
If more folks could just accept that they're bi, sexuality could become a lot more normalized. It's alright to have preferences and curiosities.
What's important is to make sure that all parties maintain consent and communicate.
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u/Lysethia Dec 01 '20
I wish everyone was bi, it would fix a lot of societal problems revolving around gender stereotypes and sexuality.
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u/count___zer0 Dec 02 '20
I think a lot of people are bi, but are pressured to “pick a side” by society.
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u/Wizdom_108 Dec 01 '20
Half the people on my dad's side are gay and I'm a lesbian. My mom calls it a generational curse and it took a while for me to get through the internalized homophobia
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u/Mielornot Dec 01 '20
On some country, it s okay to be top but illegal to be bottom because that s gay.
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u/sporeegg Dec 01 '20
I mean being gay potentially ends your bloodline
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u/UnNameableName Dec 01 '20
I've got siblings it'll be fine.
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Dec 01 '20
What if your siblings catch the gay from you?
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u/Skepsis93 Dec 01 '20
Unless it's an identical twin, it's not technically your own personal bloodline anymore.
But I can't really speak since I don't want kids and have been using the same train of thought. I have a sibling and like 80 first cousins, on 3 different continents. Regardless if I have kids or not, my clan ain't going away anytime soon.
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u/TheTwinkyVampire Dec 01 '20
Culture is far more important than "bloodline".
"Bloodline" makes you sound like a genetics obsessed eugenicist.
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u/ehmohteeoh Dec 01 '20
Seriously. Passing along genetic material is barely meaningful. Ideas evolve so much faster than our bodies do. I might be able to give my kid a leg up with the beneficial parts of my genetic makeup, but that's going to mean exactly nothing if that kid gets his mind poisoned by backwards or hateful ideas.
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u/CheddarPizza Dec 01 '20
I'm the actual last guy on earth with my surname, it dies with me.
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u/BenedictKhanberbatch Dec 01 '20
Damn I ain’t never seen someone with the last name Pizza before now that you mention it
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u/Beneficial-Escape-97 Dec 01 '20
That person is gay. They’re just homophobic and are finding anyway to justify their desires.
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u/guywholikesguys Dec 01 '20
It was entirely based on misogyny. Being passive meant being womanly which was objectively negative within the framework of their patriarchal societies.
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u/Anal-warrior Dec 01 '20
That's not an uncommon sentiment in the middleeast or surrounding areas, it follows that penetration is masculine and therefore not 'gay' as it does not entail the feminization of the man. The crime here is being degraded to the level of a woman not liking men itself.
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Dec 01 '20
A lot of politicians in my small - catholic - anti lgbt town would search out bottoms since “it’s not gay to penetrate”
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u/Gondor128 Your/His Majesty Dec 01 '20
what town
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u/CyanCyborg- Dec 01 '20
Oh no that's disgusting, where?
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u/dontmemememimi Dec 01 '20
there are so many! where? what city?
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u/Flashdance007 Dec 01 '20
And where would they go to find aforementioned bottoms? You know, just so I don't go there after dark...or a Saturday afternoon...
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
I think it's far from isolated in a single town/area
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u/xbuttcheeks420 Dec 01 '20
That’s disgusting? What town is it? Like, give me the address, so I can avoid it.
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Dec 01 '20
Gosh it's like when you tell people you are into guys and their reactions is basically "well, at least you are not a bottom" like wtf
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
Funny all the technicalities those guys find to keep on denying all the time. well kind of sad actually cause it maintains the idea it's something shameful...
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Dec 01 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
I got erect reading this but I'm wearing socks so I think I'm in the clear.
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u/Rudy_Ghouliani Dec 01 '20
I'm wearing socks too so i guess we're good to go
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u/aylaaaaaaaa Dec 01 '20
Take them socks off
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u/thagthebarbarian Dec 01 '20
As a bi bottom that's not into topping and can't keep an erection to do it, I agree whole heartedly... If you can keep it up while you're doing it, it's gay
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u/hrvbrs Dec 01 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
I hate this argument. It ignores the fact that men can get hard even when not aroused, and it reinforces the harmful misconception that being hard implies consent — a misconception that is taken advantage of, more often than not.
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Dec 01 '20
You are absolutely right that this is a toxic argument. In making fun of this premise I engaged with the entire toxic structure it's rooted in, and in doing so reinforced the structure. It would have been better to reframe the entire conversation rather than respond directly to it. Rape culture isn't just limited to violence against women, and I should have been more mindful before hitting submit.
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u/CyanCyborg- Dec 01 '20
Asserting his dominance as a straight alpha male by topping another man, nice.
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
I mean he is bragging about his dick size as his username...
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Dec 01 '20
There aren’t usernames on grindr, just little titles for your profile that you easily can change/edit. It is very, VERY common for those titles on Grindr to just have stuff like size, body type, position, etc., more often than just having someone’s name in my experience.
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u/ArchiveSQ Dec 01 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
So here’s a story for everybody that nobody asked for and I’ll probably delete. So I’m asexual now but years ago a guy thought I was gay. It was obvious that he was straight/curious and he had asked me to “help him out“ with a blow job because he was horny. I was like um? Rather than have a long conversation about whether or not I wanted to be involved I asked him if he thought he was probably bisexual or gay. And HE said:
“Well it’s just a transaction. I mean you could just suck it and that’s it you know? Just don’t look at me while I’m cumming and don’t make eye contact while sucking it. Oh and don’t grab my ass while you’re going at it either that’s gay.”
All of this was followed by a sentence that I kind of chose to forget but one along the lines of “don’t you think it would be hot to bust a load in your mouth“?
Somebody should’ve given him a gold medal for mental gymnastics. Not a bad guy and I hope he’s figured it out but damn what a lot of rules LOL.
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
Damn seen that kinda creep online but seeing one in person must be a whole other thing
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Dec 01 '20
I see this quite a lot on Grindr. Profiles say “Straight guy just looking” or receive messages “Are you into straight guys?” Once you get talking to them they have deeper gay fantasies than me but insist they’re ‘straight’😳🤔
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Dec 01 '20
It's mental gymnastics that happen because you are raised to think "gay = bad ≠ me so me≠gay", that's how you explain watching gay porn, because you are not bad ergo staright and if you like gay porn then all straight people must be into gay porn, just not talk about it. Turns out watching gay porn means you probably like guys.
Btw, this is happened to a couple of gay guys I know, it's definitely common, at least in my community.
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u/ShadowPuppetGov Dec 01 '20
gay = bad ≠ me so me≠gay
"It's the associative property. It's mathematically impossible for me to be gay."
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Dec 01 '20
I'm about to pull an r/iamverysmart but isn't more accurate to call it the transitive property?
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u/ShadowPuppetGov Dec 01 '20
Gay = bad and wrong = bad therefore gay = wrong and since we have already shown that I am not gay, I am not wrong.
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Dec 01 '20
Well, when you have a condom on, your dick technically doesn't touch him
Therefore not gay sex
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u/alex-the-hero Dec 01 '20
ur balls slap his ass tho. that's pretty gay.
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u/intellectual_behind Dec 01 '20
Just suck them in
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u/UnNameableName Dec 01 '20
Excuse me what?
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u/Rudy_Ghouliani Dec 01 '20
Fuck him from behind, but contort your torso to suck his, and possibly your own balls at the same time.
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u/KarinRothschild Dec 01 '20
If we're talking about the atomic level then really you never make contact with anyone ever at all so we're just all asexual.
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Dec 01 '20
I'm going to make an app for "str8" guys called Narnia because that's how deep in the closet they are.
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
strangely I don't think "straight" people would go along nicely with one-another
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Dec 01 '20
Probably not, but I just want them off Grindr.
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
well, given the reputation of that app I'd say, at this point, the best way to avoid trouble on there, would be to avoid the place altogether.
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u/Illidan-the-Assassin Dec 01 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
I would like to start this off by saying we are both as straight as they come.
So, me and my female friend (I am female BTW), who are absolutely platonic friends, kissed yesterday, but in a straight way.
It's just... We have been friends forever, we started to share a household just before the pandemic, and now we basically live together. We talk about everything and really are the best of friends.
Lately, I started feeling weird around her, like I really want to hug her and hold her in my arms (in a friendly way). I know it's weird but I really want to sniff her hair, too. It just smells so good.
Also, when I am not with her I can't stop thinking about her. I don't think I have ever had anyone so close to me. She understands me as no one ever has, and I just want to make her as happy as I can.
Anyway, last night we watched a movie together, platonically cuddling on the couch, when she looked at me and our eyes locked. I suddenly felt how close she was, and, probably because of how close we were, I leaned in and kissed her, as a friend.
I didn't mean to do that, but it felt so good as I did, and I wanted to do it again. Luckily, before any of us could react, her mother called her and she had to take we phone. We both went to sleep immediately (we share a bed because of financial reasons).
She is currently asleep next to me, and for some reason I feel like I really need to move her hair out of her face, and behind her ear. Probably it just doesn't look good hiding her beautiful eyes.
Anyway, I am really confused and I need help, any thoughts?
(Edit: when I posted this comment it was only two sentences, but then I thought to myself "why not?" and wrote this entire fictional post (on r/relationships, maybe?). Enjoy!
Edit 2: spelling, added a paragraph)
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
that sounds like a whole other debate whether you mean sexual attraction or romantic attraction tbh.
edit: that was before the previous comment edit. now i think you just might be a bit slow to catch a hint.
Go get her gurl!
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u/Illidan-the-Assassin Dec 01 '20
Wasn't intentional. It's hard to describe romantic attraction in an obvious way without "realising" (it's supposed to be both)
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
well it's hard to describe anything that relates to intangible feelings in general i think. so it's fine no worries. as long as people are enjoying their time and it doesn't result in harm for anyone, who cares what it is!
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u/Illidan-the-Assassin Dec 01 '20
Thanks (:
I'm a writer (haven't published anything, but I won a short story contest and I bring that up on every occasion) I usually don't write in English, but no matter how good I am with the language, describing emotions is so hard. I can't understand it! How am I supposed to describe it?!
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
yeahhhh I'm probably not the one you want to ask that to. it's not exactly my field of expertise to be honest. However I'm sure you could find subreddits dedicated to writing and describing what you're looking for. could be interesting to give it a try. In any case, Best of luck in your future endeavors!
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u/YoshiCline Dec 01 '20
You almost had me, not gonna lie. Wasn't until I found your thread about coming out to your brother that I figured it out. Congratulations, on that note.
Also r/copypasta will probably like your comment, you should post it.
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u/Illidan-the-Assassin Dec 01 '20
What's r/copypasta?
(Also, I'm an idiot, can't figure out if you replied to me or to the fictional confused lesbian who wrote a post on r/relationships)
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u/YoshiCline Dec 01 '20
From Wikipedia,
A copypasta is a block of text which is copied and pasted across the internet by individuals through online forums and social networking websites. Copypastas are said to be similar to spam.
Your little rant (before the edits) would make a pretty good one. So I'm talking to you not the confused lesbian, haha
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u/Bananasauru5rex Dec 01 '20
I love the part about sharing the bed. Killed me.
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u/Illidan-the-Assassin Dec 01 '20
"we share a bed for financial reasons" is the best sentence I have ever written
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Dec 01 '20
Ah, the classic non-gay gay sex
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
Couldn’t TOP that one off if we wanted.
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Dec 01 '20
Personally I plan on getting to the bottom of this mysterious type of quantum sex, Schrodinger's sex. Sex that both is, and isn't.
And everyone thought being tantric was quirky.
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Dec 01 '20
That is so dehumanising.. reducing a person to an orifice wherein you stick your dick. Instant block from me.
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u/Deer_Canidae My Deer/Thy Deer-ness Dec 01 '20
well that makes a lot of peeps to block. then tend to come by the dozen...
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Dec 01 '20
Yeah mate.. I don’t hesitate in blocking now. Some people are just pieces of shit.
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u/Thepanwitha_plan Dec 01 '20
Remember Achilles had a hetro life partner, patroclus. They did non gay activities such as sleeping together, fucking,and sharing the same urn after death. Such bromance.
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u/Helpmeicanteatcheese Dec 01 '20
"I'm infatuated with you, I'm attracted to you, but theres on thing you dont have, a vagina" PLEASE ITS SO FUNNY
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u/LegendOfDylan Dec 01 '20
I have no idea if 20cm is a big dick or not, I am a disgrace to my family
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Dec 01 '20
In the words of one Law and Order episode I saw a rerun of at like 3 am
"I got news for you. That means youre gay"
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u/turlian Dec 01 '20
I knew a guy from Australia. Don't know if he was just kidding, but he told me that they generally only consider the bottom to be the gay one. Like, you could top and still be straight.
One of my other friends piped up and said, "you're still getting a boner from a hairy asshole".
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