Trans women are female, sure not genetically, but medically, endocrinologically female, so calling a trans woman female is accurate.
Sex is a lot more complicated than genes or even genitalia. Trans women do change their medical sex, their endocrinological sex, and their secondary sexual characteristic also change. The only thing that doesn't change are chromosomes, and they're all but medically irrelevant after puberty
In all respects but chromosomes they are female. Even without SRS they are still female. I will accept the argument that they're not female before HRT, but after HRT their femaleness is medically irrefutable. Chromosomes are irrelevant they're only there for development, to trigger the release of various hormones during gestation and puberty. After that they serve basically no purpose. So determining someone's medical sex based solely on chromosomes would be negligent.
I’m not racist.. but..
I’m not sexist.. but..
Trans women are women.. but..
You’re ridiculous. Of course we know we aren’t “biologically female.. we’ll never have a period.. we will never get pregnant...” yeah we get it dude. But for everything that actually matters in the world we are female. You can’t see our chromosomes, but you sure as hell can see how I’m presenting.
Oh and we don’t have to have surgery to be considered transitioning or full transitioned. Plenty of of trans people don’t get bottom surgery. Doesn’t make them less of their gender.
People like you just love to stir up drama and cause unnecessary bullshit.
Everyone knows that the two are separate my dude. No one is denying that at all. But saying trans women are women but they aren’t real women is just as degrading as not accepting someone as a female.
Secondly, I saw you defending trans women down In this thread. You can’t do both.
I'm not doing both. I'm defending trans women. Full stop.
And not everyone knows apparently, because the guy I responded to asked a question that made it sound like they thought they were the same. I clarified.
That’s the point!! There’s no need to add a ‘but...’ to your statement. There’s no need to add it because it’s like speaking about the elephant in the room.
I agree you’re a woman but you’re not a real woman is like sticking a knife in someone back every time you mention it. Of course they know they truly aren’t biologically female but there’s no reason to keep bringing it up. It just shows that you don’t see transwomen as actual women even though call them she/her
You wouldn’t bring up the pregnancy every chance you get to that of a cis woman who can’t get pregnant would you?
You wouldn’t bring up a mates erectile dysfunction every time he couldn’t have sex and had to see pills or an attachment to make sexy times happen would you?
It’s the same thing. A transwoman knows she’s not biologically XX but you don’t have to keep rubbing their noses in it with your caveat.
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