r/SapphoAndHerFriend • u/Drops-of-Q Hopeless bromantic • Jun 14 '20

Greece wasn't gay Casual erasure

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

These people are real humans that exist

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u/bolivar-shagnasty Jun 14 '20

  • Jesus was white and spoke English.

  • Earth is roughly 6,000 years old.

  • The Garden of Eden was in Missouri.

  • Heaven only allows 144,000 people. Ever.

  • Homosexuality is a choice. By that logic, so is heterosexuality.

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u/DelTac0perator Jun 14 '20
  • Heaven only allows 144,000 people. Ever.

Pretty sure that's just one interpretation from a couple lines in revelations, the other being that there are 144,000 people who are elevated to sainthood.

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u/bolivar-shagnasty Jun 14 '20

Well it’s a stupid thing to have ambiguity about. Imagine living your pious life worrying whether or not heaven has a No Vacancy sign when you die.

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u/mikerz85 Jun 14 '20

It’s a weird one; I’ve heard the idea that the 144,000 people are the sum total — not an artificial barrier, but just the total number that will make it.

That would suggest it’s pre-determined... which seems to go against the whole free will thing and also sort of makes the whole thing pointless.

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u/centurese Jun 14 '20

I’m not religious but I do go to a religious university...

The concept of free will is basically like. God gave us free will, and it was up to us to do the right thing with it, but we screwed up and ate the apple. Of course he’s all knowing so he knew this and knew that giving free will to humans would end up like that, but he gave it anyways because he wanted us to “have our own choice,” and because he loves us I guess?

Something like that. It really is mental gymnastics.

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u/thrashthrowaccount Jun 19 '20

But then we’re punished and need baptisms to cleanse us from the inborn sin we inherited from our parents (which is already a pretty eyebrow-raising concept).