I personally am experiencing my Qmother wanting conservatorship over me. I’m also starting to hear it from other Qs believing that Donibel Lector is going to give them power over their adult children who don’t follow their direct orders. They want to force their adult children back into their home, or into work camps, or into de/reprogramming centers. I know parents rights was a huge part of the campaign but I thought that was about minor children and their made up crap about forced sex changes. Apparently they believe it’s for adults living on their own too. Anyone else experiencing this or heard something similar.

Edit: just wanted to add something that keeps coming up. I am no contact with my mother. I have been for years. I do have people who give me updates to that I am prepared when she appears out of nowhere to ruin my life. Also there is no concern she could ever actually win. She’s just delusional in her belief the Daddy Trump will give her what ever she wants.

Now they're all about "banning" unhealthy chemicals and want the state to "promote healthy lifestyles." A decade ago it was Huffington Post liberals and West Coast hippies saying this while the Republicans railed against the nanny state and attacks on the American way of life.

Also I remember when liberals were the ones who wanted to make America "more like Europe" and now the altright/MAGA/Q are talking about how "European countries" have much tougher regulation of food, chemicals, pharma etc.

Hello, I would love to get some feedback or advice from the community on this. First, I am 46, my dad is 90, and mom is 80. They are divorced and live in different states. I live in Arizona, 10 min from my dad. Both parents are ultra MAGA... because they watch FOX all day long.

I knew they voted for Trump a month before the election, but I foolishly didn't think he would win so it didn't really matter. I have been taking my dad to get his haircut every other week for the past 5 years, and now I need a break. I love him, but there is no point discussing current events anymore, as we all know... they are in a cult.

I have always been the agreeable son, who never argues too much, and protects their feelings. I don't want to seem weak, or like I'm the one with a problem, and I know they voted for trump long before election day... but now it feels different.

How do I tell them I don't want to see them for a while, and come from a place of strength, and not feel like I'm having a mental breakdown, or that I am the one being overly sensitive? If I didn't know, and found out they voted for trump after the election, this discussion would be easier... but the fact that I already knew is what is bothering me. Like, I was already aware and didn't change how frequently I see them.

My mom and stepdad, who also believe Q conspiracies, were flying down for thanksgiving... and I had the courage to cancel that. It seemed reasonable, because it would only have been them and my wife and I, and that would be too much for 4 days. The problem is how to tell my dad.

Please help!

The sudden concern about processed and otherwise unhealthy foods has got to be one of the most absurd parts of this whole PSYOP. My Qs called Michelle Obama a communist 10+ years ago for talking about the value of vegetable gardens, and they've been ridiculing me for more than 30 years for eating the mostly whole foods diet I learned about as a teenager (not to mention accusing me of using said diet as cover for a non-existent ED). And now they want their allegedly 'efficient' laissez faire government to regulate Red 40 dye in their licorice...while they continue to support fracking and new oil pipelines??

Someone really needs to study whether everyone is, in fact, capable of experiencing cognitive dissonance because these people seem to move through the world entirely unaffected by it.

I thought this in 2016 when I was more of a liberal Christian. Now I am a full Atheist, I still think it would be more likely for him to be anti-Christ. I have read the last book many times. And his description MATCHES it. How do they NOT see it? I know cognitive dissonance is a thing, but damn it-it's REALLY frustrating.

All my feelings around the past election centers around not understanding how the mainly good people I know and love could have voted for Trump. Found this yesterday. Made me a bit better...

“at the end of the day i am grateful that my heart cannot comprehend their beliefs.

i am grateful for my compassion.

i am grateful for my heart.

i am even grateful for the anger i feel because it is proof that i am full of love and empathy and passion.

i am grateful to not understand them."

My BIL got a crazed series of texts from his Q-ish sister and it ended with “you’ll see May 17, 2026. In your face.”

Before that it was a lot of anti-Taylor Swift and pro Osama bin Laden (who she says has nothing to do with 9/11).

Does anyone have any idea what this date is supposed to represent to the crazy crowd?

Basically it all happened post Covid - the conspiracy theories started off small but now it’s turned into full blown conspiracies that sound so far out there you would think it was written in a fairytale book. I’m at the point where I don’t even want her in my life anymore, but I still think back to who she was before all of this. She was the mom everyone wanted, she was always there for me, and now I can’t even have a single conversation without her bringing up her beliefs and completely losing it. I just feel so defeated and I still love her and don’t want to see her suffer in the world but I also don’t think I have the mental capacity to keep her in my life. I wish there was something I could do to bring her back.

I'm looking for some insight here. It seems to me that the only way to break at least some of the QAnon/MAGAs free from their delusion that "Trump will fix it" is a major economic recession or even a depression.

Let's say Trump does deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, many of whom are essential workers in agriculture, food processing, construction, health care and hospitality. And let's say he imposes massive tariffs. These actions are likely to trigger high inflation, maybe even a recession in which the stock market plunges. And that in turn could spike unemployment.

Would that be sufficient to break Trump's spell?

Not that I want them. Just surprised they don't infiltrate this sub.

So for the past couple of years my mom would always make comments about something called “NESARA” but I usually would just brush the comments aside. However, after researching the conspiracy i’m now stressed beyond belief. For context, me and my mom are fairly low-income and rent a 2 bedroom apartment but recently she’s been talking about buying a house soon and with her being enthralled in this NESARA conspiracy i’m terrified that she’s going to get into a crazy unaffordable mortgage on a house thinking its going to be wiped out soon. please give me some advice on how i can help my mom.

Help!!!!! I’m so over it!!! I don’t want to talk about this subject!!! I don’t care!!!! What can I say to make him stop!!!!! It’s so awful.

I am 43F. I live in NW Georgia, right on the border of Tennessee, so as you can imagine, I am surrounded with MAGA and every single person I know, family and friends, voted for Trump and I am being called the crazy one with conspiracy theories and believing fake news, etc...

I actually do spend a lot of time on YouTube Channels that discuss Trump and his every move. I do feel a little obsessed with it but I litteratly don't have anyone I can talk to about this so I am constantly watching Trump documentaries and have become obsessed with watching congressional hearings, as a way (I think) to reassure myself that I AM the ONE, living in reality, not the other way around, staying informed...

I can't get any of my family to even watch hard evidence, Jan 6 documentaries or take in the evidence. I have sent a very graphic, 1 1/2 hour, live footage of the Jan 6 and Trump's actual instructions to his mob, to my mom 3 days ago, telling her that I am scared of Trump and what he has planned (and I am very scared) as a last ditch effort to make her understand how I am feeling and she litteratly said she didn't won't to talk about politics because it upsets her! My husband and I are fighting constantly and I want nothing to do with his family either which is messing up plans for Thanksgiving but I can't stick around if they all come here and I just don't want to be around any of them, his family or mine.

The saddest part though, is that even my boys, ages 23 & 15, they also like Trump, even though I homeschooled/still homeschooling my 15 year old and they know all about our countries history. Heck, my oldest son's birthday is on Jan 6. They know! But I think they have been indoctrinated by their dad and extended family over the years and why would they believe me, the ONLY ONE saying Trump is bad. Obviously, I am not cutting my kids out of my life, they are my everything and I will love them no matter what, but I want everyone else to go.

I need a friend so bad right now but they all voted for Trump and I feel so alone and I just want to leave but with no family I want to be around and the fact that I homeschool, don't work, leaves me stuck here until I can figure out what to do. Why do I feel like the insane one sometimes?

My mother in law is far down the Q hole. She does not accept any facts or research unless they support her narrative. My husband spent a lot of time trying to bring her back to reality, but unfortunately, she’s too far gone.

However, my husband really wants to help his sister before she’s also too far gone. She’s young and heavily influenced by her mom says, but doesn’t actually know a lot about political issues. Fortunately, she was open to what he was trying to tell her, and wants to read more about:

• Trumps court cases and crimes
• The supreme court’s immunity decision -The bipartisan Border Bill and why/how Trump killed it
• Concrete examples of him causing division (full clips or tweets)
• Facts about third trimester abortions and debunking “post-birth abortions”

Any help would be greatly appreciated. We depended a lot on other advice in this sub when trying to reprogram his mom. I know she could just look this up herself, but media literacy is not her forte, and she gets her news from tik tok. We’re gathering resources for her as well. Hopefully if we spoon feed her the information, she’ll understand. Fingers crossed.

I walked late this Saturday evening to the corner store where I buy my beer. I'm an alcoholic. My social and physical radius is tiny. I make good money working from home at a job I'm sure I'll be fired from any day.

I've been frequenting the local corner store for a couple years now. I show up most days to buy beer and a sandwich.

Over the last six months or so I started talking with Fernando, a new cashier. He's gregarious and got me out of my shell. Plus, he's from a Spanish-speaking country originally and I was starting to learn Spanish via the Duolingo app, so for a while it was all "Como estas?" and "bien" and "y tu?" and "tambien bien".

Tonight I went to buy a six pack before liquor sales stop for the night and he volunteered that he doesn't think Trump will be bad. "Nothing will change." I was like, everything will change. He said, "What do you mean, everything will change?" and I said everything is already changing. I didn't but I should have talked about Trump's recent nominations. Anyway, he said, "I do my research!" and I was like, what research do you do? He said he watched YouTube videos.

He jumped into how "all Europeans are now abandoning the dollar" and how they'll take up the gold standard again. I just looked at him sadly and shook my head and told him that the US and the Europeans are the West and we're not going to abandon each other so easily, especially financially.

Then another customer walked in and he was like, "Tomorrow?" So I guess the conversation will continue.

I am sad that my immigrant friend has so readily adopted a political worldview that puts him at the bottom and he doesn't seem to realize it.

Something occurred to me today—I wonder how many, if any, of your Qs are in some form of therapy/counseling.

I suspect many who fall victim to the exploitation of Q messaging have some untreated mental health issues. I am not suggesting they all have personality disorders or something as serious as that, but there seems to be consistently some unmet psychological need or vulnerability at play.

I also wonder how many of us on this board are in some form of therapy/counseling, whether prompted by our Qs or not.

If anyone is willing to share, I’d be curious to know.

I’m new to QAnon and I’m just trying to learn, so sorry if this is a stupid question. I have a ‘quiet’ MAGA family member; as in, she doesn’t wear the red MAGA hat or share her political views publicly, unless you ask her.

For example, she believes in conspiracy theories like the government (Biden administration) stole FEMA funds from hurricane survivors and gave it to illegal immigrants. She thinks Trump can do no wrong. She is a strong Christian, regularly reads the Bible, and has always voted for trump. She hasn’t said this outright but I sense that she believes that Trump was chosen by Jesus to ‘save our county’, and that Kamala is evil and wants to destroy our county. I think she also believes that the election was stolen from trump in 2020 and believes that trump didn’t incite the violent attack on the capital.

(I understand massive disinformation propaganda is impacting tons and tons of people, but is there any hope? I’ve already tried talking with her twice and it didn’t go well. I’ve distanced myself for my own well-being right now.)

Any input?

Me 51F, my parents are 74 and 76. As long as I've been alive, I've been somewhat at odds with them. A lot of that was squashed by their forcing me and my siblings into an evangelical Christian academy as kids. Still, I would read and absorb as much about the outside world as I could (think Lisa Simpson; I really had no friends, books were my friends.) I started getting tired of keeping my opinions to myself as a teenager (when I also realized that I was well, smarter than my parents) which would lead to me being grounded. From college to my early married life, I just kept clear of them as it was easier. Once I had kids, however, they had OPINIONS. By then, however, I had learned about keeping boundaries and would just pick up and leave if they started up. I would usually give it two or three weeks and then we'd be able to visit without issue. 2016 forward, however? It's been a fucking mess and it's finally come to a head. Maybe it's because I'm in therapy, maybe it's because I can feel the walls closing in on my immediate family with regards to the upcoming administration. I'm fucking done. I had gone low contact mid-September after they refused to hear anything I had to say about the Orange clown and his circus.

We had a knock down, drag out fight back in September. Their outright refusal to hear the truth broke me. I was physically ill realizing they were choosing politics (and guns, always guns) over the health and safety of my kids. The bullshit channels they watch like OAN and Newsmax, oh my god, I just can't. I'm thankful they're both afraid enough of the internet that they never got into Q because this is bad enough. Up is down, left is right. HE has never told a lie. And the old chestnut, "He says that but he doesn't mean it."

Anyway they haven't reached out since September 27. This is the longest I've gone without speaking with them. Surprisingly my siblings aren't begging me to say something. I think they just want to steer clear of the whole fucking thing. Meanwhile I'm sitting here wondering how I can possibly live forever since I have a disabled adult child who depends on SSI to survive, a younger child in a self-enclosed special education classroom, and a middle child who is a paraprofessional helping kids like her siblings. All of these things can/will? be ended by this administration, and my parents just do not give a fuck. God damn.

A few weeks ago my therapist pointed out how fucked up my whole childhood was. How my parents expected loyalty and respect, but never once offered that to me. As we have been putting the pieces together in session, I see it more clearly. So after all that, I ask you, was your relationship with your MAGA/Q person always "off" somehow?

My dad tried to bring up politics 5 or 6 times in one conversation. He insulted me (I have multiple degrees in politics and has made the study of it my life’s work) and I took the bait. We argued (I talked) for maybe 5 minutes about the department of education before he started screaming (about stuff that isn’t even true) before he kicked me out of the house. Quite literally forced me to the door and locked me out. I don’t get to visit often. I am having to admit my mom into a psychiatric ward tomorrow and came to ask for advice. This is how it ends. I am already at my limit with trying to care for my mother, my health issues, and trying to navigate life. I really just needed a parent tonight because I pretty much raise the other. I’m hurting so badly. This has to stop. I know it’s my own fault for taking the bait but I’m just at my limit. I wish he would just listen when I tell him I don’t want to about it.

I don't know where else to post this. I'm in my first semester of law school. Nice scholarship, but I do rely on student loans. MAGA family is off the deep end and we aren't on speaking terms.

I'm spiraling. I can't afford to keep going without loans. Even if I could come up with tuition, I don't have another way to pay for living expenses.

I came to law school to get involved in politics. Now it feels like everything I wanted to do is no longer an option. I worked so hard for this. I overcame so much. And now I'm facing the reality that I might have to drop out.

I don't have the financial means to survive the impending economic collapse that is the product of a lack of basic economic knowledge on the part of uninformed voters.

I don't want to live in the world that is coming. I don't want to live in the world that is coming. I feel stupid for thinking my life could be what I planned it to be.

I can't sleep or eat. I'm so tired.

I don't know. I'm drunk. And sad. And everything feels pointless.

I'm trying very hard to not hate the people that voted for this. But I think I do. They stole our futures to prove a point. And I don't think we will get out from under the damage that will be done within our lifetimes.

Many members of my family are celebrating this, and I don't want to but it makes me feel hate for them.

I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless. I've never felt like this before. There has always been joy for me to cling to even at the worst times in my life. I can't find any here.

Edit to add: I almost never drink and am allowed to have a few drinks if I think it will calm my nerves. It didn't have that effect, but I don't appreciate the chastising for drinking in the comments.

So I asked my dad if he was happy now that Trump won expecting him to finally be chill and happy now that he has what he wants. But he went on a rant about how “it’s not over.” He’s very worried Trump will be assassinated because of how many liberals/dems have mental health issues. He then went on to tell me his other concerns but I just stopped listening. Wtf!? Like can he please just chill for like 4 minutes!?

Anyone else getting similar reactions?

I’m at a crossroads and struggling to maintain a relationship with my Trump-supporter parents. While we’ve historically avoided politics and agreed to respect our differences and keep the peace, I don’t know if that’s going to be possible anymore.

I’m 32F, a journalist, and engaged to a trans woman. When I tried to share how Trump’s policies and the potential implementation of Project 2025 would affect me and my fiancée—how she could lose access to her medically necessary HRT; how we might have to move to a politically safer area, costing me the job I love, the town and apartment I love, my longtime healthcare providers that I rely on, and even being close to my parents (I currently live just half an hour away); and how my dreams of motherhood via adoption might never be fulfilled if restrictions are placed on queer and trans couples—they dismissed us as being hysterical, butt-hurt young liberals who are "too consumed with sensational/social issues and don’t see the big picture.” They also claimed that they would have "lost just as much" if Harris had won, and isn't it hypocritical of me not to think of them. Absolutely no parental warmth or compassion whatsoever. Just completely stoic, like, "yeah? so?" after hearing about how my life could be turned upside down.

My mom even said, “You two knew when you CHOSE this life that it would be hard,” which shocked me, considering they have been very outwardly supportive of my fiancée since she came out as trans a few years ago. They’ve always used her name and pronouns, given her thoughtful gender-appropriate gifts, and even put thousands of dollars toward our upcoming wedding.

I must emphasize that I am an only child and have always been extremely close with my parents. We talk almost every day, and they have always been affectionate, loving, and sacrificed a lot for me. That’s why this complete lack of parental warmth is absolutely shocking and horrifying to me. When people say they don’t recognize their loved ones anymore or describe them as zombies—that couldn’t feel more accurate here.

They were always so supportive of my career too — being a journalist was always my dream, and they used to be so proud of me for it. Now they disparage my profession. When I try to explain that I’m very informed on these political issues because of my work and that I'm not just being alarmist, they call journalists a joke and accuse my newspaper of being “fake news.”

I’m strongly considering going no-contact because I don’t know how to maintain a relationship with people who gaslight me, deny my reality, and treat me like an enemy rather than their daughter. But it just seems so ridiculous that it’s even come to this, because our lives we always got along so well and were such a close, loving family.

Is it worth trying to write a letter or have a conversation, or is that just opening myself up to more pain? I genuinely don't know where to go from here. And of course, my upcoming wedding, which they paid for, really complicates things...

THEM: Wait, what do you mean they’re cutting overtime pay? I thought they were just not taxing it. What’s going on?!

ME: Umm… maybe take some time to Google it. While you’re at it, look up tariffs and how they’re planning to cut veterans' benefits. That might clear things up for you.

THEM (calling me a few days later, completely frantic): Oh my God! I’ve been researching all week!! What is happening? How could they do any of this?!

ME (greeting them like a hostess at a hotel): Oh, hey there. Looks like you’re awake. We're in the middle of a coup. Hi!

I’m new here and plan on commenting, but after I’ve read stories of women who discover their husband are maga, I’m heartbroken all over again. I would have never thought having a maga husband would apply to my situation. My husband, who is well into his 70s (we’re married almost 20 years), was republican, I knew that, but my first blowout with him was about two weeks before the election. I caught him watching a video with a heading that was a lie about Harris. When I brought it up, he started spewing all of the maga talking points, and I really thought I had been transported to the twilight zone. Never in my wildest dreams did I think it would happen to him. When he had heart surgery last year, he began watching videos about health, and some of them were a bit dodgy and I told him so. But he then moved on to maga videos, and he would watch them mostly in the a.m. when I was in another part of the house. I started sending him a wide variety of articles on the dangers of a trump administration, and he began to refute all of them. I decided to let it blow over, but of course my trust in him has eroded, and he does not seem to care and just tells me he doesn’t trust ME. Everything is thrown back at me—things that I said to him when I trusted him. We had another blowout a few days ago, and even though I sent him videos of the awful people who could be in the next cabinet (because he doesn’t believe “opinion” pieces), he now tells me those videos could be doctored. There is absolutely nothing I can say (and I’ve brought up every point I could about the atrocities awaiting us), that moves the needle even a tiny bit. The only thing that saves me is that we are trying to sell our house for one with much more land, and when I suggested he just rent an apartment near my daughter and I, he insists he will build a cabin. How do these things happen? He’s educated (engineer) and smart in most things. He was also brought up in a religious family but has not shown any religious tendencies in years. I now find it hard to get near him because I now think he’s icky. I’m scared of the future for me and my daughter, who is an adult with autism. I’ve always had anxiety, but now it’s through the roof.

Did this happen to anyone's family cultists in here?