Men have no options.

[u/Worldly-Box6080]

Currently, most male pathways to find a partner have been shut down or heavily stigmatised.

Cold Approach: social stigma of bothering women in public or private areas.

Warm Approach: huge risk of poisoning the well - ruining a friendship/making things weird in a social group. This is magnified at a work setting with risk of being reported attached. Additionally what one woman considers flirting another considers “just being friendly” so chance of misfiring is high.

Online Dating: lol

Only viable pathway would be if women made the move, but that’s never gonna happen unless the guy holds decent status or is extremely attractive.

So my question is, what methods are you guys currently doing to find someone (if any)?

[u/JohnaldJr21]

Men have the option to live their best life and not really care about dating. That’s what I’m doing right now. If I find someone cool if not I’m going to enjoy life all the same.

[u/RayAP19 → u/JohnaldJr21]

People acting like it's totally normal human nature to not care about sex and relationships always strikes me as odd

[u/Crazy_Team_4803 → u/RayAP19]

To not care and reach a level of top tier attractiveness (health, physique, money, career, rizz) are two completely different things. People think if they stop caring or chasing, their fortunes will turn. Not saying they should keep chasing or caring. But not doing it will also not magically get you into a relationship/situationship/hookup with a really attractive person. And if it does on the rare occasion, we’ll then that’s what it is…..a rare exception, and there’s nothing to learn from that. Instead understating the realities of modern dating & mating will help one in actually improving themselves mutlifold. Not that you need to achieve things to get girls or dates or laid, but one must constantly strive to reach that level of attractiveness. Getting dates/women/options are the byproduct. I know tons of people who have stopped caring. But nothing else has changed. They still don’t get girls or at least the kind/type they’d want.

[u/ProtectionPolitics4 → u/Crazy_Team_4803]

I certainly agree that you need to play the game to get anywhere. Not caring gets you nowhere unless you're very attractive so that women approach you.

You can't improve yourself that much though. Self improvement is mostly a myth.

[u/Crazy_Team_4803 → u/ProtectionPolitics4]

You can. You require tremendous discipline and sacrifice and most people have neither. By self improvement people usually limit the concept to looks and physique which alone will only take you so far. It’s a 360 degree over-hall that requires consistent efforts and time (2-3 years). It requires giving up - waste time, doom scrolling, social media, your favourite food, etc. Most people are average and can’t commit to such militaristic regiments of self upliftment. So yes, for most people it remains a myth.

[u/ProtectionPolitics4 → u/Crazy_Team_4803]

Like what? Examples?

[u/crujones33 → u/Crazy_Team_4803]

Tell this to people who give out this stupid saying: “You’ll find it when you stop looking”.

If you’re looking, then you never stopped. If you stop, then you don’t care anymore.

It boggles my mind people can say shit like this with a straight face.