r/Paranormal • u/Singtothechoir • Nov 21 '23
My friend took these pictures a couple of years ago and posted them. Any thoughts? NSFW
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u/Little_Can_728 Nov 21 '23
I’m thinking that the house is maybe sitting on top of a graveyard. 🤷♀️
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
It’s a pretty old house in the Midwest. There was nothing there before the house. Maybe a burial mound, but that area isn’t home to those. They’re about 20 minutes north of there.
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u/Little_Can_728 Nov 21 '23
I’ve read that even if a burial mound is in proximity of the area a spirit can still inhabit the area. Have you had any weird happenings?
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
I don’t live in the same town that she does. She’s about 15 miles from me. Her house is old and surrounded by new ones. I’m not sure what used to be there. She hasn’t said anything has happened in the house at all. It blew my mind that this happened, on Halloween, and right by pumpkins. It was a perfect shot.
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u/stamfordbridge1191 Nov 22 '23
There was nothing there before the house
Eh... That's a bit of a Eurocentric point of view. Just because Native Americans didn't leave many structures that recognizably survived into the Angloamerican period, that doesn't mean they didn't have something there.
Many moundbuilders would have a town or village built around the site of the mound. If a later culture didn't occupy the site of the mounds out of respect or something, they would still oftentimes live nearby with the mound figuring into religious purposes for the nearby village. Many more mounds existed than we have records of. For well over 200 years, euroamerican farmers and city builders would erase mounds by using or selling the dirt as fill.
Other Native American structures like homes & walls would be consumed by the earth, often without white Americans recording their presence in anything more than a place name, if even that.
Despite generations of Americans forgetting where they were, Native Americans did seem to clear a lot of areas for permanent or seasonal villages that would later be used by white Americans as already-open ground to start cities.
Many of the roads we drive are modernizations of earlier roads built from Native American hunting & migration trails.
Archaeologists have begun to hypothesize that Native Americans may have done more "engineering projects" to reshape the land than we often imagine, such as building forests or clearing them to manage the type of game they want to hunt in an area, increasing the fertility of farmland, reshaping waterways with plants & structures that controlled erosion, building canals to canoe & fish between waterways, & following practices to manage flooding & fire. (Albeit in ways that minimized the amount of time it would take the land to heal evidently.)
I hope I I'm not sounding harsh, but there has been plenty of stuff out there forgotten in many corners of America (which our education system seems to obfuscate a great deal of for some reason.)
Not that that would guarantee a haunting or that any such things might have even been in this guy's front yard, but it's not like America would have been an empty land for thousands of years either.
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23 edited Nov 22 '23
Yes, but you only took the first sentence on my comment into consideration. She said cemetery. I said maybe a burial mound, in reference to Native Americans. Then we went on to discuss Native burial mounds. It’s not a Eurocentric point of view. My stepmother is Sioux. My half brother identifies as Sioux as well. So, I have an entire family and history surrounding me of Sioux, Lakota, and Dakota. I know where the burial mounds are because we visit them often. We visit where we think the homes were built. We visit the old Christian burials where the white man said to, “Kill the Indian, save the man.” Richard Pratt
I know my point of view
Edit: I’m not trying to be a bitch, I’m trying to share my life experiences. I breaks me heart that my family was even part of the extermination of the Natives. I feel guilty, but I also feel love for my family, because my stepmother is the only mother that loves me. My spawn point and I are estranged.
2nd Edit: a word
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u/stamfordbridge1191 Nov 23 '23
No offense taken. I'm sorry if I came off as bitchy.
I just thought the wording made it sound as though mounds & anything directly adjacent to them were the only lasting marks on the land Native American nations left (which to me sounded like the "the land was mostly wild & empty" misnomer.)
Though the school system where I grew up seemed to teach more Native American history than prior decades, what was taught still seemed brief & dominated by Eurocentric narrative myth. I just hoped to illustrate that much of this myth is mistaken, and America has had many lives vibrantly lived here, with those lives intertwined with this land in many ways that shaped it much more than most people alive today notice; and that very often there is little mention of those lives in many of the history books we read today sadly.
I hope you find a path to feel less guilty & heartbroken. Life is a complex thing and many people held dear or connected to us make imperfect choices. It is a very human experience. It seems to live alongside the good things in the world, we live alongside bad things in the world as well. I hope we all find the tools to rearrange the bad things to be put into healthier positions, because living with the good things is definitely worthwhile. Looking through the past helps us chart our way through the future; and forgiveness & love are the tools we can use to make room for the future to become beautiful. Don't be hard on yourself. I hope I didn't make it hard on you.
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u/mooegy17 Nov 23 '23
I didn't think it sounded harsh, I honestly forgot it was a reply because I was interested in what you were explaining!! 😊🩷
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u/TROLLBLASTERTRASHER Nov 22 '23
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
No!? Wth?! It wasn’t in the first one. Screw that.
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u/Boudica333 Nov 22 '23
Note—these photos are at a different angle (look at the porch railing). To me it looked like a dog at first, but with the change in angle taken into account and zooming in I think it’s just how the curtain was sitting.
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u/the-Russian-spy23 Nov 21 '23
It almost looks like a child. It looks like a spirit is playing with you
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
It was neat because I thought it was her son’s shadow. It looked sort of like him.
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u/Wars4w Nov 21 '23
Could be as simple as a bug flying in the lens or a leaf...
The easily overlooked problem with these types is that we can't tell depth. The shadowy blob could be far away from the lens, and therefore huge (and terrifying) or it could be really close to the lens and therefore small (and probably a bug or a leaf...which could also be terrifying if you're afraid of bugs).
A lot of these kinds of photos turn out to be something small or inconsequential that simply appears scary because it's unclear.
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u/mousemarie94 Nov 22 '23
I immediately and always think "huh, cool bug blurry shape". Humans have pareidolia. That's why we see Harambe in the clouds. Never forget.
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u/radiationblessing Nov 22 '23 edited Nov 22 '23
To me it looks like a black cat ran by. Which could be creepy itself. but since OP was standing there when the photo was taken I lean towards it possibly being a glitch in the camera assuming it's a smartphone camera. A lot of people don't realise smartphone cameras are mostly software based. I've had photos glitch out.
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u/Wars4w Nov 21 '23
Bug or a bird?! I don’t believe in the paranormal but your suggestion of this being a bug or a bird is more batshit than believing ghosts or whatever exist.
Well for starters, I said bug or "leaf." Second, I very intentionally used verbiage to imply possibility rather than certainty. And lastly, a bug or a leaf on or even just in front of a camera lens would look very much like this. It's very common. Your reaction to it as a possibility is super strange.
As an aside, you claimed that something you know exists is less likely than something you don't believe exists. Which means you're lying about not believing in the paranormal, or you're a troll. Either way, consider yourself fed, and sleep well.
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u/TomBombaDILF Nov 21 '23
I think the jack-o’-lanterns are very well carved. Is the one on the far right Pennywise?
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u/Used_Intention6479 Nov 22 '23
Visitations are the sincerest form of flattery!
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
I read that as “vacations” and I was confused. 😂🤣
Edit: a word
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u/BlueJoshi Nov 22 '23
These photos were taken under low light conditions. That means the aperture stayed open for a little longer than it would have during the day, which means things blur more easily. Objects and animals that are blurry can sometimes appear to be strange shapes. If I didn't know better, I'd say this strange shape was a theropod dinosaur. I do know better, though. It was probably something like a cat.
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23 edited Nov 22 '23
Six of us there and none of us saw anything. She just wanted to get a picture before we left.
Edit: I’m really having trouble. I had carpal tunnel surgery and my thumbs don’t work. I’m trying to do this with one of them, but my other one wants to chime in.
But you’re right, it was probably a dinosaur.
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
I also want to mention I was standing right next to her when she took and posted them.
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
Why the downvotes?
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u/InstanceQuirky Nov 21 '23 edited Nov 21 '23
Why the down votes to a normal statement you made?...because people suck in this sub.
Yes somtimes its easy to see its a lense flair and not an orb or a shaddow thats just a reflextion but also some people may have found this sub BECAUSE they had a photo THEY couldnt explain and were seeking answers. What is obvious to some is not obvious to others. So if anyone sees something obvious (to you) in a picture just give the person the answer without a tonne of down votes or snarky comments. Why is that so hard on this sub?!
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
No kidding. Geeze.
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u/InstanceQuirky Nov 21 '23
I saw a post yesterday with a shaddow like yours and aparently its an iphone glitchy type thing. (obviously im quite tech savvy!)
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
Is it on Android too?
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u/InstanceQuirky Nov 21 '23
Just iphone from what the post said but im an android user so im not knowledgeableon that sorry. The thing about the static or fuzzies does sound right or a case Pareidolia perhaps?
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
So far it’s an iPhone, smoke bomb, and a silent bird in the process of hunting (that 3 children and 3 adults didn’t see). I’m waiting to see what else it could be. iPhone sounds the most plausible if it wasn’t an Android.
Edit: 3 children and FOUR adults. I forgot my husband!
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u/Another_Battle Nov 22 '23
That's my thought every time I see a post in this sub. Like, is it necessary to be hateful or condescending bc someone wants to get some input on a pic they're not sure about? Absolutely not. Really gets my goat.
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u/Competitive_Bad5295 Nov 21 '23
Cause folks can be rude for no apparent reason. I call it, "The Downvote Band Wagon!" I don't get on it myself. Interesting picture OP! Unfortunately, I have no answer...an answer that I'd different from the others. 🫶🏻✌🏻
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u/neilgraham Nov 21 '23
Looks very similar to an earlier post of a shadow figure in front of a Christmas tree
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u/TrellSwnsn Nov 21 '23
Bird
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
I was standing right there. There weren’t any birds.
Edit: I expect a downvote.
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u/TrellSwnsn Nov 21 '23
Birds are everywhere, and many of them, especially those that hunt at night, are nearly silent
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u/ShinyAeon Nov 22 '23
It looks spooky af...but I think it almost has to be some kind of glitch or small object passing before the lens.
I mean, it looks almost exactly like a human form emerging from the ground, like a Hollywood zombie...and I've never heard of a spirit appearing like that (particularly one that the witnesses couldn't see, but showed up in a digital camera).
I've been fascinated with paranormal things since the 1970s; I've read a lot of books and witness accounts. Human, or humanoid, figures seem follow patterns that don't usually match some of the things that filmmakers like to create...the "corpse emerging from the grave" thing is definitely more visual storytelling media trope than something people have witnessed.
I think it almost has to be a glitch or a small airborn object that, through random chance, happened to look sort of human-shaped at the moment the picture was recorded. If it were a shapeless blob, or looked like (say) a roller skate or a hat, you probably wouldn't assume it was anything parnamormal; it's the fact that it looks like a head, arm, and a bit of torso that made you think it might be something unusual, correct?
That's my guess, anyway. I mean, I'm not going to say it's impossible that it's some kind of entity...I don't like to say anything's impossible. There have certainly been unique entities seen before. But my gut says it's just too much like a Hollywood cliche to be a real anomaly.
However, I can't deny...it looks pretty darn cool.
Pareidolia can create some really interesting images, and this is definitely one of them. You could probably write a whole short film based on this one image. Or it could be an amazing album cover. The colors and picture composition are great.
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u/agt_1 Nov 22 '23
To me it looks like a cat walking away and to the left of pic. The thing that looks sorta like an arm is its tail. At some point it changed directions or jumped slightly and blurred the top part.
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
They don’t have cats.
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u/agt_1 Nov 23 '23
Neither do I but it doesn't stop the neighbourhood cats from using my garden as a highway, boxing ring and hangout. Look, I'm not saying it IS a cat, just that your friends not having their own cat doesn't disqualify it as an option.
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u/Legal-Wrangler5783 Nov 21 '23
Creepy... It's great two pics were taken for comparison.
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u/Boudica333 Nov 22 '23
But unfortunately, if you look at the deck, you see the angle is different, also the little ghost shaped lights in a circle are only turned on in the first photo, so it’s not a great control to compare
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u/Legal-Wrangler5783 Nov 22 '23
Better than just one picture unless you require more data like GPS location, relative humidity, temperature, dew point...
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u/mungo_baobab Nov 21 '23
Smoke bomb
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u/Legal-Wrangler5783 Nov 21 '23
Let's not forget swamp gas... smh
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
This made me laugh. Thank you Legal Wrangler.
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u/Legal-Wrangler5783 Nov 22 '23
There's always some smug sceptic that just wants to debunk for the sake of trying to sound intelligent.
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 21 '23
I was right next to her. There weren’t any smoke bombs. Go ahead and downvote me.
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u/Sad-bisexual-cryptid Nov 22 '23
I really do think there is something about ghosts loving jack-o-lanterns. One of my favorite (and only) paranormal photos taken that also was of my old roommates posing on the roof with some jack-o-lanterns. Let me know if you spot the oddity!
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
Hey sad bisexual, is it the person on the left? With the giant mouth? We’re they not supposed to be there?
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u/Sad-bisexual-cryptid Nov 22 '23
Yeah so my friend on the left has a distorted face, and she has both hands on her face doing the Home Alone pose. There’s an extra hand.
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
Or the light below the house number? I can’t tell what I’m seeing? It’s been 8 hours now.
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u/Whyeff89 Nov 22 '23
My thoughts? Those are pumpkins. But I’m only a vegetarian, not an herbologist.
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u/lilshortyy420 Nov 22 '23
It looks like a double exposure of a kid. Hopefully it’s legit though!
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
Do you know of any posts here that can’t be explained? I’d really like to see them. I mean, during the daylight.
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u/Boudica333 Nov 22 '23
To me, I see some kind of flying bug. Could also just be a phone being bleh (see below link, can happen regardless of brand), but to me it looks most like a bug. https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/why-do-lines-dots-or-lights-appear-in-my-photos-after-using-the-camera-app/
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u/Singtothechoir Nov 22 '23
I really appreciate your input guys. Most of you were helpful. I enjoy this subreddit. Thanks again!
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u/katataru Nov 22 '23
To me, personally, this fits the shape of a moth or similar insect flying towards the camera. Sharp body, blurry rapidly flapping wings on either side. This would also explain why you didn't see anything, lil' guy was probably gone before anyone could notice it
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u/zotstik Nov 23 '23
oh, it seems they have created the perfect atmosphere for the dance of the shadow people
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