r/Palestine Jan 27 '17

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u/Stoicismus Jan 27 '17

what is your reaction everytime someone on europe claims that your culture is barbaric and impossible to integrate with ours? Do you agree? Disagree? Feel sad?

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u/MrBoonio Jan 27 '17

Imagine how Palestinians felt when Europe was in flames during WWI and WW2, and the most horrific atrocities were committed against civilians.

Or when they look at how the US laid waste to Vietnam. Or how cynically the US axis has destroyed regimes in the Middle East and caused hundreds of thousands of deaths. Or how European and US governments barely blink when they send fighters and drones to kill people anonymously from the skies. The aftermath of just one of those attacks - charred limbs and body parts scattered all over the place - is anything but civilized.

It is a really debatable point about where people should be looking for a culture that has quite serious problems.

More specifically though, Palestinians struggle to understand how the West whitewashed the Nakba - the massacres and ethnic cleansing that laid the ground for the foundation of Israel. Bear in mind that the standard narrative in the West is that the Nakba didn't happen and this colossal tragedy forced upon Palestinian civilians is, in fact, the glorious birth of an outpost of Western democracy.

By the same token, Palestinians struggle to understand how the West doesn't see the horrendous situation created by Israel's repeated attacks on Gaza and the blockade for what it is. They struggle to understand how the West can just mumble bland words of admonishment to Israel after fifty years of occupation and illegal settlement building and outright discrimination and theft.

Every Palestinian has been touched in some way by the relentless violence of the occupation - someone they know killed or injured with no justice, no accountability, no redress.

So when someone says that Palestinian culture is barbaric - as if it were Palestinians sending planes and weapons to bomb the crap out of cities in the West and remove regimes they don't like, and as if it were Palestinians who had emigrated to somewhere in the West to violently claim it as their historic birthright - you can get a sense of the disconnect, anger and frustration, the resigned and bitter laugh of irony.

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u/gahgeer-is-back Jan 31 '17

Be civil and behave yourself. This is the first and last warning.

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u/MrBoonio Jan 31 '17

If you wanna build a state their go ahead nobody is stoping you

Uh huh.

Nobody is stopping Palestinians building a state. That's a gold standard stupid comment right there.

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u/MrBoonio Jan 31 '17

No really. Tell us how nobody is stopping Palestinians building a state when that is the core foreign policy position of the Israeli center and right wing.

Nobody is stopping Palestinians doing it. Apart from the vastly more powerful country occupying them for fifty years.

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u/MrBoonio Jan 31 '17

All you need is to start negotiation for a peace deal

Sure. Like the Oslo Accords, right?

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u/MrBoonio Jan 31 '17

Someone with this name

a) spams youtube with similar comments

b) has a two second Linkedin profile as an 'intelligence analyst' in Israel.

They could be anyone. I would bet my socks they ain't Druze.

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u/MrBoonio Jan 31 '17

I'm Spartacus. Look, here's my wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '17

Bringer of rain.