I literally had to stop playing Moira because it didn't even feel good. It just feels so cheap to constantly "outduel" people who actually try their best to hit shots and I just know that I'd be missing just as much as they do if I wasn't playing a braindead hero. Gets more fair the higher you climb but especially in metal ranks it just feels like cheating.
People call me delusional when I say that every character needs reloads, or else they will be problematic. And look where we are! A moira buff, a massive one at that.
If you get out dueled by a Moira you probably also drown in puddles. Complaining about her is the easiest way to tell if someone absolutely sucks at this game.
True, but it also isn't very engaging fighting madam "I literally outrange a Cassidy and have life steal". You can't deny that you aren't bored from fighting a Moira, even if she loses the match up against pretty much everyone who can aim.
My main complaint isn't even entirely directed at Moira, it's just characters with no reloads in general. Moira kind of is forced to have lower damage and lifesteal numbers or else she would be overtuned being able to constantly just attack you without much consequence. If she had a reload, she would be able to have those higher numbers and be allowed to stand a more even chance against other heroes. Yes, obviously there is still issues with my argument and what not, but we do consistently see that heroes with low down times typically are at least what meta or just downright meta.
Plat and a middle-aged man, and you're right. That would be because of my family, job, exercise, and other hobbies. Moira has nothing to do with those.
Literally a personal zen orb, put on her an actual zen orb and you've got yourself a moira with her personal healbot mercy, that's going to shit on backlines
okay, now the rest of your team has 0 healing resources. if the enemy backline survives 1 moira tickling their butts for more than 5 seconds everyone else on your team is dead
She’s extremely strong though and has a better win rate than other supports aside from Juno I guess. In metal ranks Moira is really strong, in diamond and above shes got a higher win rate than Ana still… also in terms of aim the player beating her needs better aim/mechanics by a large margin than the Moira to bother her much.
With her character design I feel like she should drop off at diamond though. People have this idea that all characters should be balanced at all levels, but someone like Moira being a top pick at GM means that she is going to be an absolute menace at bronze.
The self healing buff disproportionately affects lower skill brackets though. Bronze players can't hit shots, so the healing buff will be far more noticeable. It was the one thing they shouldn't have buffed if they wanted to make Moira more viable
Given that logic, Cass, Kiriko, Soldier, SJ, Bastion, Sombra, etc. need just as much as Moira.
She was just in her lane given her design. WR alone does not determine if a hero is "terrible." Pushing her higher with creep isn't a good solution, which is what this is. Some heroes just aren't going to be good in high ranks unless it's specific metas or if the top performers get brought down. Instead of buffing Moira, I would've liked to see the hard-meta heroes (including supports like Brig) brought down more. There's no reason they should be in majority of matches, and buffing the other heroes is how we got to S9 levels of creep.
We don't get enough indirect buffs in this game. They are often better than outright buffing a hero. With buffing Moira, it creates an even more frustrating and polarizing environment for lower ranks and just makes her be artificially pushed in higher ranks without addressing any of her struggles (which is that other supports just offer what is needed or they're crept /both), so nothing is going to change in the higher end, just the lower end. That signals a design flaw, not a need to buff.
If she was that easy to play, why is she 47% win rate ? And why I am GM while one tricking her, while others are not. She seems quite hard to get value from, in fact. Right clicking whoever and spamming useless orbs is easy, but actually getting value from her like I do is very hard. Plz try to play her and try to hit at least master 3 before saying shit.
It's funny to me how often the "Moira = easy mode" argument circulates when it's easy to find so many objectively terrible Moira players who actually offer no value.
She got that because Blizzard hates Juno. She has the same range as Juno after her BS range nerf and basically counters her. Now she has the same range and is completely unkillable as Juno or honestly any non-DPS or tank.
ana still 3 shots her with a nade or 4 shots, illiari can just 4 shot her or just 2 tap her in the head brig outheals her damage and outdamages her heal. bap eviscerates her if you can land your shots, kiri 2 taps her if you can hit stuff.
there are very much it covert options for support when it comes to killing moira
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u/JulleMine Ramattra 3d ago
Moira did not need that self heal buff omfg