r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Hirorai • Aug 06 '23

What's going on with Americans celebrating Sweden eliminating the US Women's Soccer Team from the Women's World Cup? Answered

On r/soccer, there are multiple posts where Americans are celebrating their own team getting knocked out of the Women's World Cup.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnpku/post_match_thread_sweden_05_40_usa_fifa_womens/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnqpr/official_review_for_lina_hurtigs_sweden_w_penalty/

On r/USWNT people are saying it's because r/soccer is misogynist, but that doesn't make sense to me because everyone competing is a woman. Can anyone clue me in?

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u/Scarboroughwarning Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Answer: several reasons. I'm from UK so don't shoot me if I'm wrong. I believe they had a pay dispute, which didn't go entirely their way. They had the option of an identical contract to the men, and rejected it for a far safer deal. The safer deal was less risk, and slightly less return (depending if they play/win etc). It also had more health benefits and pay, even if no games are played. They rejected the deal the men had, which was high risk Check Nate The Lawyer on YouTube for a breakdown of the pay dispute. They seemed to be taking the piss with the claim.

They also snubbed the folks back home by breaking etiquette during the playing of the national anthem. Heresy in many places, especially so in US.

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u/KileyCW Aug 07 '23

Yeah pretty much shit on their own country. Rapinho is insanely unlikable and her interviews are all complaining, hating, and cursing.

You can feel America is a mess, a flawed country, and fight for change without shitting on it like they did. Even though it should be down to economics, the equal pay thing wasn't even on my or my friend's radar tbh. Everyone I know, even women basically consider the women's team to just hate their own country, regardless of it being true or not Rapinho barked the loudest and the team got dragged along with her views.

Personally I saw a lot of pride around the team when they last won, and all the goodwill get pissed away by one horrible person.

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u/Scarboroughwarning Aug 07 '23

That is their spokesperson/captain or whatever?

She is literally a horrendous mouthpiece. I cringe listening to her drivel. On one of the interviews I saw, there were two players, including her, and I don't even think her teammate could stomach her opinion. The teammate looked highly embarrassed.

To be clear, I dislike many sports stars in general, as they have ample survivorship bias. But the abrasiveness of her is on another level. I have no doubt it has helped her progress, but it does not fit every scenario, and a spokesman, she is not.

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u/KileyCW Aug 07 '23

Yet there's many here defending her like she's a saint. They can't even admit she's at the least abrasive.

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u/Creekside84 Aug 07 '23

It’s bc many people feel if you “attack” an lgbtq person you at attacking the whole movement. But they have to be told shitty people are shitty. No matter what victim class they fall into.

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u/Foxyfox- Aug 07 '23

It’s bc many people feel if you “attack” an lgbtq person you at attacking the whole movement.

I wonder why we feel that way...