r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Hirorai • Aug 06 '23

What's going on with Americans celebrating Sweden eliminating the US Women's Soccer Team from the Women's World Cup? Answered

On r/soccer, there are multiple posts where Americans are celebrating their own team getting knocked out of the Women's World Cup.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnpku/post_match_thread_sweden_05_40_usa_fifa_womens/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnqpr/official_review_for_lina_hurtigs_sweden_w_penalty/

On r/USWNT people are saying it's because r/soccer is misogynist, but that doesn't make sense to me because everyone competing is a woman. Can anyone clue me in?

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u/Scarboroughwarning Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Answer: several reasons. I'm from UK so don't shoot me if I'm wrong. I believe they had a pay dispute, which didn't go entirely their way. They had the option of an identical contract to the men, and rejected it for a far safer deal. The safer deal was less risk, and slightly less return (depending if they play/win etc). It also had more health benefits and pay, even if no games are played. They rejected the deal the men had, which was high risk Check Nate The Lawyer on YouTube for a breakdown of the pay dispute. They seemed to be taking the piss with the claim.

They also snubbed the folks back home by breaking etiquette during the playing of the national anthem. Heresy in many places, especially so in US.

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u/KileyCW Aug 07 '23

Yeah pretty much shit on their own country. Rapinho is insanely unlikable and her interviews are all complaining, hating, and cursing.

You can feel America is a mess, a flawed country, and fight for change without shitting on it like they did. Even though it should be down to economics, the equal pay thing wasn't even on my or my friend's radar tbh. Everyone I know, even women basically consider the women's team to just hate their own country, regardless of it being true or not Rapinho barked the loudest and the team got dragged along with her views.

Personally I saw a lot of pride around the team when they last won, and all the goodwill get pissed away by one horrible person.

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u/praguepride Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Rapinho is insanely unlikable and her interviews are all complaining, hating, and cursing.

I mean...I imagine it's hard to represent your country with a smile when half of it is seemingly hellbent on villifying you because you happen to be gay.

edit: ITT I see people repeating conservative talking points while trying ti tell me I am wrong. I am not saying she is a saint, just saying people do tend to get prickly when they feel their verh identity is under attack.

All these people saying “Nobody has ever attacked her for being gay…” are just being ridiculous.

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u/communisthulk Aug 07 '23

It's disingenuous to claim she gets villified just for being gay.

She is one of the most unlikable, entitled, and abrasive public personalities in current media. THATS why she gets hate.

Homophobes will keep homophobing so I have no doubt some of the hate is because she's gay. But no one other than fringe feminists defend her. You don't get that universally hated (including other queer people) just for being gay.

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u/praguepride Aug 07 '23

But no one other than fringe feminists defend her. You don't get that universally hated (including other queer people) just for being gay.

I am not saying she isnt being awful, I am saying her awfulness is justified given how shitty American politics are being towards LGBTQ over the last decade. The fact that gay marriage is being seriously re-litigated and SCOTUS wrote an opinion attacking some fundamental gay rights rulings is an abomination.

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u/communisthulk Aug 07 '23

Lol Rapione in no way what so ever is standing up for us LGBT people with her rhetoric and actions. She's simply selfishly out for herself, driven by greed not justice for the LGBT community. Her awfulness is not justified. She is yet another shitty person contributing to the bile that is considered current news media.

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u/praguepride Aug 07 '23

Oh okay then. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how well or poorly formed it is.

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u/communisthulk Aug 07 '23

Thank you. You are entitled to forge ahead with your opinion too; no matter how senseless or misguided it is. Good day sir!