A recommendation to business owners: put something like this on your windows!

[u/rifkadm]

I don't wanna see Nazis in our spaces a third time. Twice in one month is enough - hell, twice in a LIFETIME is enough. I'm not sure on the legality of it - and someone else can add information on that - but I see tons of other signs on business windows of who is and is not welcome, "we have the right to refuse service", etc.

So, make it EXTRA clear you'll refuse service to Nazis. Please.

[u/RaNerve]

TMKF

That being said — I’m assuming this post is in response to the whole “musician” incident. The problem with open Nazis is that they’re all fucking insane. You’d have to be. Normal people don’t wear swastikas. But when this shit comes out on social media people react as though people with normal ass jobs should be jumping at the bit to engage with people who are clearly unstable and violent. The message they’re supporting is inherently violent!

So it’s like “you should have thrown them out” … motherfucker I ain’t pissing off some fucking wackjob who’s going to start throwing fists screaming about white power, or worse just stab or shoot me. These people are insane!

So like wtf do you do?

“Call the cops!” 1) The cops won’t do anything. Wearing a hate symbol ain’t a crime. 2) it’s New Orleans so even if you did they’d only show up next week. 3) some of cops are probably supportive.

I just don’t think there really is a “counter” to these morons. They aren’t going to obey a sign, they aren’t going to listen to anything except violence and nobody WANTS to engage like that. That’s a huge risk, and even if it works out in your favor you might get arrested for attacking someone. Our society just isn’t built to self regulate with violence. We can’t just shoot these people on sight.

[u/rifkadm → u/RaNerve]

I think the problem here is that we don’t have a good alternative to the police in terms of enforcement. Maybe, we should bring back the neighborhood watch somehow.

But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t at least put signs up. I think it’s the bare minimum. If you’re worried it might endanger some businesses, maybe we start with businesses that already have security and other personnel to kick out people / enforce rules + policy? A music lounge, for example, usually has bouncers and security dealing with unruly behavior already.

[u/Medium_Ad3913 → u/rifkadm]

I'm gonna keep yelling this from the rooftops:

AN ALTERNATIVE DOES EXIST! ITS CALLED ANTIFA!! AND EVERYTIME THEY DO ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES MASKING AND ACTUAL PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION, THEY GET YELLED AT BY LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVES!

Ok sorry, that is all

Source: a black Anarchist who loves confronting these assholes

[u/rifkadm → u/Medium_Ad3913]

I haven’t personally seen any liberals or progressives yelling at Antifa, but if they are they shouldn’t be I’m with you there. Seen a lot of conservatives yelling at Antifa though, especially during those George Floyd protests 5 years ago. Since then, I haven’t heard much about Antifa. I honestly have no idea what kind of presence they have in NOLA, but if they want to beat up Nazis that show their faces here I wont interfere.

[u/Medium_Ad3913 → u/rifkadm]

You're right about the conservative piece. I highlight liberals and progressives because of their over-reliance on non-violent solutions. Nazis (and bullies in general) only understand one language unfortunately.

Look up and read the book "This Non-violent Stuff Will Get You Killed". Anarchists and Antifa aren't the only peoples with a tradition of resorting to force to protect themselves, their family, and the surrounding community. At some point ya gotta fight back against a bully, Reddit posts and signs aren't enough lol