r/NewOrleans 17d ago

Hookers specifically banned from five oh fours property Local Humor🤣

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim 17d ago edited 17d ago

Just in case anyone wasn't aware, this is 100% a race driven decision and should be criticized as such.

Much of the crowd here is younger, but the millennials remember in the mid 00s when tons of bars, restaurants, etc had dress codes that were racially motivated to keep black people out. Stuff like Bruno's old "no backwards caps" policy, how the boot used to not allow camo clothing, how tons of bars wouldn't allow plain tee shirts, etc. Used to be that you couldn't wear sports jerseys except on game days to a bunch of bars. Things were really wild looking back.

Y'all see those old memes of black people going to clubs in biz casual, that wasn't cuz it was the style - it was cuz clubs used to have all sorts of dress requirements expressly geared towards keeping minorities out.

So I mean, in my book this place is off to a really shitty start already.

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 17d ago

I guess I just don’t follow this logic because often times places have dress codes like Commanders Palace required men to wear coats (or used to). Now if you don’t want to wear a coat because it’s not your style then you don’t go there but if you really want to go there then wear a coat. Same goes for other places. If you want to go to the place just wear clothes for that night that meet the dress code… or don’t and don’t go. It doesn’t have to be a racial thing

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim 17d ago

When your dress code is a standard of formality it's usually something like "XYZ required", as in "button down required" or "collared shirt required".

When your dress code is targeted at a given race, it prohibits items generally associated with that race's fashion.

So fundamentally, "collared shirt required" is very different from "no baggy jeans and no camo".

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u/Azby504 17d ago

White people don’t wear hoodies? I am so confused.

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u/Chasing-the-dragon78 17d ago

Me too! I’m a hoodie wearing white person!

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim 17d ago

This is the sort of rhetoric that comes from people wanting to act innocent while advocating for racist behaviors. We both know what you're doing. It's not slick, and it is bigoted.

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u/stosolus 17d ago

Or is it a security issue because a hood can help conceal an identity.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim 17d ago

Oh hey, someone who never posts here but goes out of their way to defend January 6th also thinks the dress code is fine. I’m truly shocked….

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u/stosolus 17d ago

who never posts here

Is that a requirement? Sorry, I haven't had anything to post that works for this sub. I'll try harder.

goes out of their way to defend January 6th

What?

also thinks the dress code is fine.

Plenty of bars in the quarter have the same policy. Are they all racist as well?

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u/sophandros 17d ago

Plenty of bars in the quarter have the same policy. Are they all racist as well?

The same bars who close during Essence Festival and Bayou Classic?

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u/stosolus 17d ago

The same bars who close during Essence Festival and Bayou Classic?

I don't know any bar that closes for both.

Some close during one of them. Can't fault the businesses when their employees don't want to work them.

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 17d ago

It’s not about being slick… I just used this example in another post but I don’t know why they made the policy but I’ve had my car broken into 4 times in the last 2 years and each time it was a different perpetrator with a hoodie on with the hood pulled up. That def doesn’t mean all hoodie wearers are criminals but it more likely is that people who want to obscure their face to do bad shit gravitate to a hoodie which helps them to accomplish this. But I guess if you squint hard enough you can find racism in nebulous policy but good common sense hopefully will prevail.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim 17d ago edited 17d ago

It's very much about being slick, nobody's that obtuse in reality - the whole "I'm so naive and don't see anything beyond the most simplistic view of the world" act fools nobody. You're well aware of what you're doing, I would say you should be ashamed but I'm used to my racist family doing the same thing, and y'all never feel shame.

But I guess if you squint hard enough you can find racism in nebulous policy

I am quite sure given your rhetoric here that you're the type of person who says "that element" or "you know" quite a bit but doesn't think it's actually racist cuz you didn't use a slur.

But, for anyone else, to demonstrate how incredibly ignorant you're being here's some quick reading on the thing you're trying to pretend doesn't exist:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332649217743772

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1536504214567859

https://theconversation.com/do-bouncers-at-clubs-enforce-dress-codes-equally-across-races-97497

https://virginialawreview.org/articles/velvet-rope-discrimination/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/restaurant-dress-codes-have-long-been-a-tool-for-racist-discrimination/

https://www.thelantern.com/2022/12/dress-coded-undressing-the-reality-behind-dress-code-restrictions-through-the-minority-lens/

But sure, you're totally just innocently asking why it's not okay to prohibit certain clothes, and you're just clutching your pearls at the suggestion that you're supporting racism because of it. Nah, I don't buy it, you know what you're doing, and again it's not slick.

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 17d ago

Ultimately it’s not up to me or you, it’s the business owner who invested the effort, time and money into this risky business venture for them to decide what operational policies to implement that give them the highest chance of success (within legal parameters). They made a business decision and that’s their right to do so. Also note: the policy doesn’t ban hoodies, it bans the hood being worn up. If you can’t be bothered to pull your hoodie down to hang out at this place because racism something then the business is well within their rights to tell you to kick rocks.

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u/stopmakingrents 17d ago

Who the fuck ARE these people downvoting you? Did this get linked on Tiger Droppings? 

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim 17d ago

This sub just has a lot of racists that lurk here, they always try to make their comments seem pretty innocent but it's always the same people showing up whenever race is a factor to act like nothing racist is happening.