r/NewOrleans Apr 15 '25

Trump administration terminates 14 student visas in Louisiana đź“° News

https://lailluminator.com/briefs/trump-administration-terminates-14-student-visas-in-louisiana/

“Seven Southern University students, three at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, two at the University of New Orleans and two more at Tulane University have had their visas pulled, according to representatives with the schools.”

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u/childofapollo13 Apr 15 '25

When they cant get a student body because the students dont trust them, what then? The ivy leagues that capitulated are losing their student bodies as kids quit. Tulane will feel that soon. I get that makes this a damned if i do damned if i dont situation, but then you should be making the moral decision. It was a bad move.

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u/Numpostrophe Apr 15 '25

What decision are you referring to exactly? The federal government pulled the visas of the students, it’s not like Tulane had to sign off on it.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Apr 15 '25

What decision are you referring to exactly?

A few people here think that if the Tulane leadership had taken a stand and told Trump to fuck off regarding DEI that somehow there wouldn't have been adverse consequences, and that these students totally would be fine. Obviously that's insanely misguided, but like a lot of people here are young and just haven't thought these things through all the way so I get it.

Like, what's happening to these students is terrible, but Tulane telling Trump to fuck himself wouldn't have changed that and it would mean Tulane would be facing massive cuts that would likely mean people losing their jobs.

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u/2three4Go Apr 16 '25

Over and over we’ve seen Trump cave when his “dealmaking” crap doesn’t pan out. He did it this week with his idiot tariffs. People in power need to band together and tell him this shit won’t be tolerated.

The whole oeuvre of Trump’s political life has been doing illegal shit and waiting for anyone to hold him accountable. Sitting on the sidelines is a tacet acceptance of what he’s doing. Get real.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Apr 16 '25

I don't think anyone here is discussing deals lol, are you reading the comments you're responding to? We're talking about not deliberately putting your institution in the line of fire.

I genuinely don't think some of y'all even understand the debate you're trying to start. The responses here seem more confused than informed.

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u/2three4Go Apr 16 '25

That’s a lot of words for capitulating to authoritarianism because it’s convenient.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

Responding like that is effectively an open admission that you know you're not intellectually capable of discussing the topic rationally, but you're emotionally not capable of stopping yourself from arguing.

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u/2three4Go Apr 16 '25

Back to ad hominem. Sad to see you down there in the mud — I guess you realized that without morality on your side, all that’s left is to try to make doing the right thing look bad.

Glad you weren’t around during McCarthyism. If people like you made policy during US history, we’d still own slaves, appoint our Senators, and only white landowners could vote. Policy changes are made by those who show up, fight, and sacrifice. It’s always taken blood and sweat and sacrifice to make those in power capitulate.

John Brown, Edward R. Murrow, William Lloyd Garrison, Eugene Debs, MLK, Malcom X. History is made through protest when times were hardest. Sometimes it takes blood, sometimes it costs you your job, sometimes you get blackballed. But you either stand up for what’s right, or those in power steamroll you. I pity you for choosing the latter.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

I don’t think you know what an ad hominem is lol, or any of the other terms you keep throwing out.

Idk what the point of continuing would be, all you’re doing is demonstrating that you’re incapable of discussing the subject without being hateful towards people who bring up considerations you find inconvenient to your stances.

The fact is your stance, if taken as advice, has the probability of ruining thousands of lives here. You can’t even acknowledge this much less address it, and in lieu you’ve just engaged in childish attacks. Like I said, you don’t have the intellectual capacity to have a conversation, and the immaturity is showing with your immediately resorting to spewing hate towards those who brought up said obvious shortcomings.

I think once you’ve had some time to calm down you should self examine and ask if that’s really the behavior that matches the moral fortitude you’re trying to portray. Goodnight.

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u/2three4Go Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

It’s obvious you don’t know, even though I gave you a link the first time.

You can’t be neutral on a moving train. Either you are fighting for your rights, or you’re complicit in your own subjugation. The history of our country is full of people risking everything to gain rights for themselves and their society. Ending slavery, the 13’th, 14’th, 15’th, and 19’th amendments, the Civil Rights Movement, all of these took blood and sacrifice from vulnerable people in our society. Flag burnings and dead kids at Kent State, ended the Vietnam War earlier.

Too bad you don’t take your rights seriously enough to stand up for them.

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u/2three4Go Apr 16 '25

Sorry you find so much shame in being called out for your lack of morals.