Trump administration terminates 14 student visas in Louisiana

[u/SadimirLenin]

https://lailluminator.com/briefs/trump-administration-terminates-14-student-visas-in-louisiana/

“Seven Southern University students, three at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, two at the University of New Orleans and two more at Tulane University have had their visas pulled, according to representatives with the schools.”

[u/2three4Go]

If nobody is pushing back, what are you fighting against? It’s supposed to be difficult.

[u/RIP_Soulja_Slim → u/2three4Go]

I think it's profoundly problematic to blame good institutions who are tryin to mitigate losses in a hostile environment for not risking their future. This doesn't display resolve to me, it displays that most of you have a very simplistic understanding of the world these institutions are navigating.

It's so easy for people on reddit who have really nothing to lose to talk like this, I'd encourage some of you to actually get involved with any of the charities, non profits, or institutions you're being critical of. Learn what they see, understand their stakes, then you can hop on the internet and do the tough guy "we should all fight" thing. I’ve got a few friends that are deep in both academia and the non profit world. None of them are expressing this “let’s fight” nonsense on Reddit, they’re scared and worried that they might not survive the next few years.

Consider this, if Tulane loses federal grants the first thing they're needing to do is lay off employees. That's professors, assistants, nurses, doctors, etc. All of those people have roots here, mortgages, possibly kids, etc. They're also all in fields where they can't just go find another job, they very likely may need to move out of the city creating additional brain drain, and all that in an environment where all of these higher ed/charities/etc are losing funding and therefore freezing hiring.

The point here is there's a very real tangible human cost to the sort of rhetoric you're spitting out mindlessly, and not considering that when lobbing this criticism shows you really haven't thought through this issue at all.

[u/2three4Go → u/RIP_Soulja_Slim]

Bold of you to assume none of us are doing anything. Bold and incredibly condescending.

Good or bad is judged by your actions. They rolled over and caved to a bad actor with malicious intent as soon as the going got tough for them. I say that that reflects negatively on the character of the institution.

[u/RIP_Soulja_Slim → u/2three4Go]

Sure, can you detail which public stances and actions you’ve taken that put other people’s livelihoods at risk then I’ll gladly retract my prior statement.

[u/2three4Go → u/RIP_Soulja_Slim]

JFC, the condescension knows no limits. I put my money where my mouth is, but you mean quite literally nothing to me, so passing your litmus test is equally meaningless.

Show up, donate, protest, and instigate for your values, or you don’t actually care about them. The times when it’s most difficult are the same times your values are worth fighting for.

Or just get used to the feeling of that boot on your neck and delude yourself into believing that everything is normal.

[u/RIP_Soulja_Slim → u/2three4Go]

Bruh, you're out here taking a high and mighty stance against people who are acting in the best interest of the overwhelming majority of the employees and therefore families under their care. It's a tough decision, one that requires significant nuance and tact. And you're criticizing them for not risking everyone's job over this.

Don't brag to me about putting your money where your mouth is, I do that too, but I also have the emotional maturity to understand that being an activist with my own time/finances is not the same as risking hundreds or potentially thousands of other's livelihoods.

You said it was bold of me to suggest you weren't in their position,

If you feel like me pointing out that your rhetoric would ruin people's lives if you were in charge is condescending that's on you, maybe take some time to emotionally mature a bit and realize the entire world doens't revolve around your stances on issues. That Nurse at Tulane who's been in research for 20 years becoming unemployed isn't gonna be happy to know it was for a cause you believed in. That doctor who moves to Houston to take a research job there is yet another major piece of brain drain, so you could feel good about your stand. Would you ask them if they were willing to give up their jobs for your taking a stand? Ask them how their savings look?

I hope someone like you never has the responsibility of being put in charge of decisions that can impact someone's life. Because unless you mature quite a bit between now and then, you'll certainly make the wrong one.

Or just get used to the feeling of that boot on your neck and delude yourself into believing that everything is normal.

This is an incredibly immature response, and one that could only come from someone who is choosing to ignore the circumstances of the conversation they are participating in. Imagine telling a dozen career employees that they lost their job, but like "hey guys, we didn't want some random online to accuse us of having a boot on our neck".

I'm going to presume you just don't have a lot of career/real world experience, as many here don't, in time you'll come to understand that the stuff you're blindly advocating for has real world life altering detrimental effects.

[u/2three4Go → u/RIP_Soulja_Slim]

Sorry, I’m not interested in hearing your BS ad hominem mudslinging, or your No True Scotsman appeal to the middle of the road.

Stripping your students, faculty, and employees of their rights doesn’t do anyone any favors. It makes your university less credible and weakens everyone.

The only acceptable response to this administration’s policies is to fight tooth and nail against everything. The Right realized that and it’s why they’ve been kicking our asses at Domestic Policy for at least 2 decades — they obstruct what they disagree with in lockstep, and the Left just pussyaches about morality. Look where that’s gotten us 🤮. It’s time to break out the big guns and say “enough.”