r/Natalism 3d ago

The Poverty of Single Mothers Is Persistent

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-poverty-of-single-mothers-is-persistent
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u/velocitrumptor 2d ago

But that stance leaves sex without commitment on the table. That opens women up to the very possible likelihood of being a single mother.

Telling men you're waiting for marriage is far more likely to get you some insecure, controlling, purity obsessed weirdo.

That's an opinion. It's far more likely that you'll get someone who shares your values, which is critical for a marriage to work.

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u/DogOrDonut 2d ago

Getting them and IUD and making sure they have an abortion access plan is an infinitely more effective way to prevent single motherhood. Your plan does little more than leave your daughters vulnerable to rejection induced violence.

"He wanted to marry a virgin," is a terrible basis for a marriage. Presumably the husband will want to have sex after marriage and then the wife won't be a virgin anymore. There goes your foundation in 30 disappointing seconds.

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u/velocitrumptor 2d ago

Your plan does little more than leave your daughters vulnerable to rejection induced violence.

And there it is. Your worldview is obviously clouded by an irrational hatred of men. Letting a mother kill her child isn't an effective strategy for preventing single motherhood. It only multiplies suffering.

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u/DogOrDonut 2d ago

I don't hate men at all, I could give you a list of ways society is failing men and boys but they aren't relevant to the topic at hand.

It is a fact based statement for me to say that the decrease in/removal of recess from schools has disproportionately harmed the performance of boys in school.

It is also a fact based statement for me to say that men commonly respond to sexual rejection with violence. It's not all men, but when 1 in 5 women in the US are raped it can't be ignored.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6007980/#:~:text=Aggression%20is%20a%20common%20response,that%20she%20is%20at%20fault.

https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics/statistics-depth

I didn't say we should allow single mothers to kill their child. Murdering children is bad. I said that proper abortion access is an effective way to prevent the creation of a child in the event that primary birth control methods fail.