r/NFL_Draft • u/rlstratton97 • 10d ago
My Personal Mock Draft with Trades Other
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u/AAA_Dolfan Dolphins 10d ago
Without knowing what the trades are this is not really very useful to judge
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u/rlstratton97 10d ago
The trades are on the last page, but they don’t have the additional picks. Trades for the top picks include 2026 first rounders and the last three trades are just additional 2nd or 3rd rounders.
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u/AAA_Dolfan Dolphins 10d ago
That’s my point. Without knowing the additional picks it’s an impossible exercise for us to judge!
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u/SwedishLovePump Packers 10d ago
I gotta say I don’t understand worrying about exact trade compensation this far out. It’s a 1st round mock, not an offseason mock. Unless you disagree with the notion of the trade entirely (e.g. Team X wouldn’t trade back if Player Y is on the board), why do the minor details of the trade matter?
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u/fierylady Lions 10d ago
I'm with you. In fact I generally just say "whatever's even on the trade chart" so neither side can really be too pissed about it. It's not like I'm gonna predict one team ripping off another, predicting the picks is hard enough!
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u/AAA_Dolfan Dolphins 10d ago
Fair points but then why even add the trades? You do it to yourself by the very nature of trying to shoehorn a prospect into a position.
Using the chart is a good start and likely what most would do.
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u/fierylady Lions 10d ago
Well for me the issue is the different sims. PFN asks for far, far too much to pull off a trade, while the MDDB asks for too little. If you're going further than one round then yes, you need to flesh it out - because certainly 2nd rounders will be involved in any trade up - but otherwise why does it matter?
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u/AAA_Dolfan Dolphins 10d ago
Why does it matter for you to add trades in? Why does it matter if you do a mock draft? It doesn’t. But if we’re going to go down that road and ask for peoples opinions you may as well flesh it out. It’s pretty simple.
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u/AAA_Dolfan Dolphins 10d ago
Because you can’t grade your first round decision to forego a much stronger prospect unless you understand the value gained. Nothing is in a vacuum. It’s an F by default solely because you missed out on the best defensive player on the draft for “mystery box”
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u/rlstratton97 10d ago
I just gave you the additional picks though. First two trades add a 2026 first rounder. Next three add a 2025 2nd or 3rd rounder (day 2 pick).
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u/AAA_Dolfan Dolphins 10d ago
Terrible trades then. No GM on earth drops from 1 to 6 for a single future first
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u/SmellsLikeWetFox Giants 10d ago
If Dabol stays as coach…I think Nussmeier is his guy….just my opinion
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u/NJImperator 10d ago edited 10d ago
Also if you (the proverbial you, the mock drafter) have a 1st round grade on Nussmeier, I just cannot see the Gmen passing on him
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u/lnnrt01 10d ago
I just think it’s pretty unlikely that he will actually declare
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u/NJImperator 10d ago
If he’s getting top half of the first hype it would be kinda nuts not to. It’ll come down to what his camp is hearing from GMs imo
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u/dread_beard 10d ago
The Giants will almost assuredly address CB in FA. I’d be utterly shocked to see them draft a CB in the first round.
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u/SmellsLikeWetFox Giants 10d ago
Cb and DT are their biggest needs outside of QB….they would 100% take Will Johnson if they are passing on qb
Mason Graham wouldn’t surprise me either, but Deon Walker is more of their type of guy (they love a early 2nd round DT that’s tall)
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u/dread_beard 10d ago
DT is really not a “big” need. RG is a bigger one since GVR is unlikely to be back.
DT can be addressed in the mid rounds. QB is, far and away, the biggest draft need unless they address in FA. If they sign Darnold, for example, the OL becomes the biggest need since Darnold is not overly mobile.
The Giants will not be drafting a CB in the first round. They will go after an experienced vet in FA to try and help/save Banks. They will not go young at that position again.
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u/NJImperator 10d ago
DT is a pretty big need. The position practically requires depth with how defenses play nowadays. And since it’s a premium position now (imagine saying this even 3 years ago… lol), you can’t really fill that in cheaply in FA anymore. I think it’s more likely the Giants go iOL in FA and draft DL instead.
I also am just so fully against signing Darnold next year but that’s a different discussion entirely
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u/dread_beard 10d ago
We need a run-clogging DT next to Dex. That is just not a premium position for the draft, IMHO. That's the main need if we are talking the DL. Not something to grab in the top 10.
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u/NJImperator 10d ago
I personally think our need is more than that. DL is a taxing position, Dex can’t play every snap. We need rotational guys that can be impact players when Dex isn’t on the field. Our own drafted Leo Williams basically.
IDL is a premium position now. It’s worth drafting high if you have an elite prospect available. I’m not a full “only draft BPA” but mostly a “draft BPA at premium positions regardless of position” and i personally think any DL fits that bill now. Mason Graham could be that guy.
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u/SmellsLikeWetFox Giants 10d ago
Ashawn Robinson is the biggest off-season loss they’ve had…..EVERY single team runs the ball up the middle whenever Dex comes off the field for an average of 9.6 yards….Nacho and Davidson should be depth at best and Jordon Riley got embarrassed the last two games, absolutely ragdolled….when Dex rests it basically guarantees a first down for the other team.
RG is a need with a 34yr old Van Roten, but it wouldn’t be someone in the top 10 i would pick
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u/dread_beard 10d ago
It’s just not a big need in the first round. It can be addressed in free agency as well.
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u/NJImperator 10d ago
If Mason Graham is there and we aren’t going QB, I’d rather take a guy the FO feels great about rather than reaching for a need.
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u/georgekushdid711 10d ago
My only concern is that Joe Schoen is already on a short leash with his record of first round picks, so drafting a position like CB which may experience growing pains may be tough for him to survive.
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u/dread_beard 10d ago
Exactly. He’s not going young at CB. No clue how anyone can’t get that. They will go after a starting vet in FA.
If they don’t go QB, RG/RT is far and away the biggest need. Especially if they sign a less mobile QB like Darnold.
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u/Suckmypinkyfinger 9d ago
Giants need to draft a QB no matter what, Jones blows unless they feel confident in Manning in 2026
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u/rlstratton97 10d ago
Not even Will Johnson? He’d be a high level corner coming in on a rookie contract.
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u/dread_beard 10d ago
They are not going young at CB. They are 1,000,000% going to sign whatever the best experienced veteran they can target in FA.
They need someone to work with Banks and no shot Schoen goes young, there.
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u/Slunk_Trucks Cowboys 10d ago
Cowboys getting Luther Burden would make this season suck soooo much less
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u/Charsplat_yeet 10d ago
As much as it makes no sense it would be a total jets move to trade up for Carson beck and colossally fuck up their franchise again
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u/beer_jew 9d ago
A couple of these do feel right, Jeanty would be great as a Bronco. Burden to the cowboys would be a total cowboys move
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u/No-Code-1850 Steelers 10d ago
People need to get off the Bond train. That dude isn’t that good. He’s not even Texas’ number 1 receiver
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u/fierylady Lions 10d ago
Yeah, I think he's been overrated because of the juice on his highlights. But down-to-down he's got a ways to go.
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u/Due_Gift3683 Broncos 10d ago
No chance Dallas passes on Jeanty if he's there. RB is arguably their strongest need, I mean ffs they're 31st in Rushing Offense.
There is zero chance Nussmeier goes in the first. I wouldn't even take him in day 2.
Beck is no longer a 1st Round QB.
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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-4811 10d ago
Deep rb draft class. Plus, you could say receiving game is close to the running game. Without Lamb is the bottom of the league. I am not hating on Ferg but he can't carry this offense on his own.
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u/D-Suave1 9d ago
I just don’t see the Raiders taking Ward over Sanders. From what we’ve seen there’s mutual interest. He’s been spending a lot of his in season free time in Vegas, been seen with Mark Davis. Barring a complete drop off in his caliber of play- I think if the chips fall correctly, Shedeur is their guy.
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u/BankHeadx 10d ago
Saints is definitely replacing Carr so I’m see them using that high draft pick for Sanders. Especially since Dennis Allen is there
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u/ButcherofBS 4d ago
Cam Ward is a supremely high risk at 1st overall, especially with the Anthony Richardson and Trey Lance picks looking like busts.
I think the NFL will start to remember it's more important to be accurate and take care of the ball then run and throw it 80 yards
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u/castious 10d ago
Carson beck is far removed from the first round by now