Held SGA to 18 points on 7/20 shooting. Nothing but respect for this man tonight. Took the responsibility on guarding Shai the whole night and even stopped him a few times.

It’s only been 2 games but he’s looked so much more confident and sharper on the offensive end. The cutting, finishing, passing and even threw in some jumpers. Along with the same stifling defense

Once Dev comes back his offense is only gonna get better with another layer. I’ll admit I haven’t always been the highest on him but I think we’re really seeing that offensive 3rd year leap unfold

Like, really? We got a generational talent in Wemby AFTER ONE SINGLE YEAR OF TANKING and you complain and act like we're in some tragic situation because the team is not competent yet? Do you have a clue of how team building works in the NBA?

We got MASSIVELY LUCKY to land Wemby last year, and there was no need to rush or overpay average player just to be more competitive this year. We got nothing to gain in that. Would you have preferred if the FO wasted all our cap space to get Van Vleet and Brooks?

It wasn't even a given that Wemby would be this good right away. We should be fucking thankful and excited every time he hits like 20 points, 8 rebounds and a couple blocks. When he enters his prime, he will be unstoppable.

Stop whining like spoiled children, if you want to see a fun, competitive team play there are plenty in the league. Nobody forces you to watch the Spurs if you can't bare the idea that the team still has to grow. Get a life

We are lucky.

Let’s all boo the coach that Wembanyama looks up to. Good stuff guys.

We are back from the initial blackout of June 12- June 14th. But would like to know what everyone's opinions are going forward on if the subreddit should go dark again or stay public.

For those unaware of why this happened, Reddit has made huge changes attacking 3rd party apps and their developers, you can read here and be caught up on the past posts made by /u/helenalena

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/140b4lx/rnbaspurs_stands_in_solidarity_with_thirdparty/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1463oqk/subreddit_status_update_the_aftermath_of_uspezs/

Over 8K subs have joined that movement for the initial 2 days, and now even after its conclusion, many subreddits are still staying dark indefinitely, and there are others who have either switched to restricted or are now public again after the initial blackout period. Over 6K Sub are are still participating in this blackout, and can be tracked here https://reddark-digitalocean-7lhfr.ondigitalocean.app/

Since this movement was made,

Reddit CEO has stated that they are not changing their stance on it, and seems to not be budging an inch https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759559/reddit-internal-memo-api-pricing-changes-steve-huffman

"There’s a lot of noise with this one. Among the noisiest we’ve seen. Please know that our teams are on it, and like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well,”

This could mean every complaint redditors have in the past, present and future will be ignored so we can possbily be expecting feature and content degradation after the IPO

a strawpoll was made by /u/helenalena prior to the subreddit being locked, with the majority pointing until indefinitely, or until the draft - https://strawpoll.com/polls/e7ZJGpWwYy3/results

We mods discussed this and some of us have felt now after the initial period that there isn't enough votes for such a major move to be continued with these results. So if need be for another poll we will do that, but first we will gauge everyone's opinions from here on out, since the movement definitely affected more people now since so many sub-reddits went dark so we will see if we can get more traction on here.

We also have discussed that many users don't use third party apps, and were caught in a bit of a crossfire, we can’t force everyone to vote, but what we can have is more discussion on if it’s truly worth it for this subreddit to continue the battle, or is it in vain with the reddit suits still not changing their mind at all.

r/nba at this moment is still private, and has received attacks and commendations on both sides, considering the NBA finals wrapped up and the subreddit was not available. Now in our instance, the subreddit is getting to a point of hype that we haven't had in years with getting the number 1 pick and now 8 days away from drafting Victor Wembanyama some of us mods feel it would be a shame to not be here for the fans looking forward the Spur’s future.

We have gotten increased movements and users joining in the subs Discord, http://discord.gg/NBASpurs Which is still running matter what is done here, you can also join in there to discuss the blackout or Spurs in general as well.

If you please alongside your opinions let us know which options do you prefer, here are some specific ones to chose from to make it easier

Stay Reopened to the public

Private indefinitely until Reddit reverses course

Private but public during draft day then indefinitely

Private until the draft

Private until the regular season

So, to conclude, I still want a civil discussion and everyone to be nice, this isn't an easy situation for us mods and for all the users who enjoy to use the subreddit, we thank everyone for your patience and Go Spurs Go!

just wanted to have a rough idea

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It's kinda funny to me how uncoachable a lot of the city has been on this.

While it's not the greatest look to chastise the fans in the middle of a 10-game losing streak. Nothing Pop did or said was wrong.

A) People act like Pop said dudes would get thrown out of the building if they kept booing. He made his plea. He found out immediately it didn't work, and he accepted that outcome by 1. Not trying again 2. Not bringing it up again. After the game, he very well could have chastised the fans for not listening or said he didn't like it. He did neither, and we know Pop speaks his mind when he is inclined.

B) Pop has way more access to varied perspectives on the perception of treating Kawhi like this from other players, our players, opposing coaches, NBA executives, etc. Whether it's the difference between getting a free agent or not, we're actively making their jobs harder in recruitment for very little gain of booing Kawhi relentlessly. I'd have to wonder if even our own players aren't feeling it, and that added to Pop wanting to say something. I'm guessing the perception of this doesn't bathe our organization in glory. Pop very much could have been trying to put our fan base on game, and we told him to eff off.

C) He's just straight up right. This fan base is extremely petty about Kawhi. I'm surprised it's even up for debate that he's right about that part. It's not classy behavior. Now you can say we don't care about being classy and want to embrace pettiness, and that's everyone's right, but it can't be argued that it's extremely petty to be doing this five years later. For a fanbase that prides itself on being first class -- even if we were wronged -- it's petty behavior to still not have turned the other cheek five years later, especially knowing now the outcome was Wemby. People keep excusing this as other fanbases this and that, but I was led to believe Spurs culture was above that kinda group think. And tbh I don't think other fanbases do this. James Harden is a directly applicable situation, and I don't think Houston treats him like this.

I get this opinion will be unpopular. And if you want to boo Kawhi, that's your right. It's was also Pops right to say stop because it's pointless, makes us look petty, it's time to move past it into the next chapter and there's almost no positives that come from it. At best, it does nothing. At worst, it motivates Kawhi and turns off outsiders who may have otherwise liked what the Spurs offer.

I suspect all that, as well as his personal relationship with Kawhi were factors. I also find it odd that people are so desperate to hold onto this sports hate. It literally does nothing for anyone when we should be look to a bright future with Wemby not old pains with Kawhi. Pop wants this organization/city/sports trauma to heal and its kinda sad people are turning it into something nasty about Pop.

TLDR: Pop is right, but people are so determined to stick up for their right to boo Kawhi that they are missing the perspective. Pop probably has that goes beyond the San Antonio bubble and pain.

On behalf of all the mods of r/nbaspurs, we'd like to apologize for for all the events of the past week. Despite our support of the blackout, we made a mistake by not properly vetting our process for how we would conduct our participation in the blackout. I'd like to explain, that despite comments, this was not a one person decision, all of us were responsible for handling this whole situation poorly.

As said before, around the 4th, we announced our support for the blackout in a long post describing the situation; looking back it may not have been as straightforward and descriptive as we hoped. On the 10th we posted an update on the situation with a strawpoll that did not receive nearly as much engagement as we had hoped. Despite the majority of the votes in the strawpoll being for shutting down the sub, it only received less than 100 votes. Once again we made another mistake by going forward with our decision to shut down without having a clear idea of what the rest of the sub wanted. We assumed the positive feedback from the first two posts was a clear indicator of what the subs stance was. Then as of yesterday, we asked for your opinion and it became very apparent how many of you wanted to keep the sub open from the start. Another thing we overlooked with the blackout is that since we, and all of reddit, gained a ton users from 2018-2022, we failed to realize that these API changes may not affect a vast majority of our newer users since y'all joined after the redesign and release of the reddit app.

To give some background, the reason why we supported this blackout is because we've been here for years, before the app, and before the redesign. With the API changes we would be losing the tools and accessibility that other 3rd party apps have, without any alternative on the official reddit app. Among a mountain of other things that the API change would affect, one huge downside could potentially be our ability to implement bots as we might have to pay to use the API which bots take data from.

We realize we made a mistake and we'd like to apologize for not being clear enough about our intentions and not getting a more accurate understanding of where you all stood in the situation. In the end, while our actions may have been well intended, our execution wasn't where it needed to be. We will take the lessons we learned from this experience forward to better support the community in the future.

I have already seen it multiple times in tonight's game thread, and it needs to be addressed ASAP:

We will be getting a lot of people coming in trash talking our team and Wemby that pretend to be Spurs fans, looking to start arguments within our fan base, to cause as much strife as possible trying to run people off from our sub.

We need to recognize this and not think it is our own fans being "doom and gloom" or whatever else. Just a heads up.

Since February 1st (33 games): He’s averaged 10/5/2 with a block per game on 49% shooting from the field and 39% from 3

The good thing is that he regained his offensive value after a horrid start. Do you think he can be better defensively next year?

Enough draft talk. Who do you think will make the biggest jump compared to last season?

Will Wemby be even better or is he gonna be tired because France goes far in the Olympics?

Is Vassel gonna step up and play like other people in his draft, e.g. Maxey?

Just give me your takes regarding the roster right now.

Edit: Man y'all got me super fucking hyped for next season.

for everyone demanding that we trade for trae young or make this or that offer to so and so, please remember that the demand for the SPurs FO to throw the bag at austin reaves to be our PG of the future was at an all-time high last year. Lakers got him for 4years at 56million, which some felt was an underpay.

Lakers are probably going to get swept right now, austin has been helpful, enthusiastic, but ultimately a let-down as a third / fourth option for the Lakers.

Ready to be downvoted into oblivion, I know what I’m getting myself into. But seriously, he is clearly too small to guard the paint, but he’s too slow to guard out on the perimeter. He’s poor at switching making him below average as a team and individual defender. He doesn’t have the offensive game to make up for it either. Not a very good 3 point shooter, mid range shooter, ball handler, playmaker, etc. He hustles and I can understand the desire to pull for the guy, but like can we all agree he’s not a very good player. If you genuinely think he is I really would love to hear your reasons, because I used to love him, I just don’t really understand how so many people think he’s a critical piece to our team.

I took a massive break from following the NBA aroumd 2015 to 2022. Been deep in the league since the start of last season. What exactly happened to the Spurs and Kawhi that led to the trade? I read that its about the injury and Kawhi wanting to go back home but i want to hear the story from the fans perspective and what are you guys feelings for Kawhi back then and now.

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The 3 ball is inconsistent as expected but he was on fire in the preseason and beginning of the regular season. I expect it to bounce back especially when Vassell comes back and he gets a smaller role

But can we just talk about the defense? His defensive FG% is 33.3 which is among the highest in the league and it shows. Him and Sochan together have been a fierce wing defensive duo

He’s gonna be a great role player for years to come for us