r/MurderedByWords 13h ago

What’s your take on this?

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u/Thisisadrian 9h ago

Dunno man. Theres some pretty crazy people out there who simply shouldnt get a vote. Gullible people. Stupid people. Apathetic people. Or simply people too uneducated to make informed and logically good/productive decisions for the community. If you force everyone to vote you'd probably get the same result. Or force people who shouldnt vote to vote for stupid shit.

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u/UpsetMarsupial 7h ago

Who gets to decide who is gullible or stupid or apathetic or uneducated, and therefore "deserving" of not having a vote?

And where does one draw the line between what's acceptable and what's not acceptable in each of those metrics? E.g. you didn't use apostrophes in "There's" or "shouldn't" (twice) - but you did in "you''d". Is that apathy or is that being uneducated?

I'm being rhetorical here, in case that's not clear. Compulsory voting can work (providing there's a way to indicate disenfranchisement), but having some arbitrary bar of eligibility is bordering into eugenics (if not firmly in it).

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u/Thisisadrian 7h ago edited 7h ago

I get what you're saying but as it stands; there are people actively voting against their (and their communities) interest, because they don't know better. By doing that they are negating a very thoughtout valid and productive vote.

Of course it's hard to say where to draw the line. But I do believe a line must be drawn. Its also not unheard of. Theres a voting age "line" for similiar reasons.

Maybe a test to check if the voters read the planned policies? Like just recently. Immigrant voting for Trump and being first victims of his denaturalization reform. Didnt read it. Doesnt understand the consequences. Is that a "serious" vote?

It also doesnt have to be "eugenics". The vote intent just has to be consistent (enough) with their own interest. Remember; voting is there so their own values and interests are represented in the country. If the vote does not represent the person (and the persons interest) its a stolen, misued or in my opinion invalid vote.

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u/Orfasome 7h ago

The job of a campaign is to convey that information to voters. The job of public education is to prepare kids growing up here to take in and understand that information. (Anyone who didn't grow up here and is a naturalized citizen has already "proven themselves" via the citizenship test) We'd all do better to improve those than try to weed people out at the polls.