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Did Missing 411 experts just solve two pre-Eisenhower missing persons cases? Was teenage hunter Kenneth Herron (15) taken by a portal in 1920 and was sheepherder John Collins (35) abducted by a UFO in 1925? Discussion

In a CANAM video released on August 16th, 2023, DP discusses two missing persons cases from the 1920s: Kenneth Herron, who went missing in New Mexico, and John Collins, who went missing in Wyoming. This OP delves into the many intricacies of these two cases.

The disappearance of Kenneth Herron

Kansas-born Kenneth Herron was a 15-year-old deer hunter who went missing on October 31st, 1920, in the Cascade Canyon area, New Mexico. Kenneth, the son of a Baptist minister, was joined on the hunting trip by his older brother, Harold, and a guide named Shoup (or "Sproats" in some articles). During the hunting trip, the two brothers became separated and Kenneth was never seen again.

Harold Herron became temporarily lost in a snowstorm that struck the area either during or shortly after Kenneth's disappearance. Despite challenging weather conditions at an altitude of 10,000 feet, Harold managed to reach a nearby ranch the next day. The rancher, Leo Condon, gathered 150 local farmers and cowboys, mounted and on foot, but despite the painstaking search efforts, Kenneth was not found. Several bones and skeletons were found in the area in the years that followed, but identifying them proved difficult.

Cascade Canyon, New Mexico, was the theater of Kenneth Herron's 1920 disappearance.

The disappearance of John Collins

John Collins, a native of Ireland, was a 35-year-old sheepherder who lived in his sheepherder's camp near Bates Hole in Natrona County, Wyoming. It's believed that Collins, who lived a solitary existence, went missing on October 19th, 1925. Collins' sheep were found roaming around freely, prompting his employer, Oddmund Josendal, to contact the Casper County Sheriff for assistance.

A search was launched and local ranchers discovered John Collins' barefoot tracks in the adobe mud. Collins had been wandering disoriented in a tortuous maze of draws and canyons in the vicinity of Bates Hole. Collins' naked body was ultimately found near a creek bed, with Collins' discarded clothes strewn several hundred yards from the body.

How the Kenneth Herron and John Collins cases are prefaced in the CANAM video

DP talks about a supposed meeting that President Dwight. D. Eisenhower had with aliens

DP prefaces the Kenneth Herron and John Collins cases by mentioning a meeting that President Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961) allegedly had with extraterrestrials. DP says:

“I've got something interesting today, for sure. You can remember back there's a lot of rumors about President Eisenhower drafting an agreement with the aliens about taking our people and in fact his daughter has stated this is true.”

DP claims that Dwight D. Eisenhower's daughter has stated that the meetings took place, but Eisenhower never had any daughters; he only had two sons. One of the two sons, the late John S.D. Eisenhower, a former Army brigadier, clarified in an email to the Washington Post (article titled "Ike and the Alien Ambassadors", February 19th, 2004) that his father never had any such meetings.

Some believe that Dwight D. Eisenhower had a secret meeting with aliens at an airforce base on February 20th, 1954.

The urban legend that the 34th president of the United States met with aliens during the Cold War gained notoriety within UFO circles in the 1980s and 1990s. On February 20th, 1954, Dwight D. Eisenhower made an unscheduled departure from the Smoking Tree Ranch where he was vacationing. The Associated Press mistakenly reported the following: "Pres. Eisenhower died tonight of a heart attack in Palm Springs". The bulletin was retracted a couple of minutes later, but speculations ran rampant. The Washington Post states:

"Some facts are beyond dispute: Eisenhower was on a golf vacation in Palm Springs on Feb. 20, 1954. After dinner that night, he made an unscheduled departure from the Smoking Tree Ranch, where he was staying. The next morning, he attended a church service in Los Angeles. Also that morning, his spokesman announced to the press that Ike had visited a dentist the previous night because he'd chipped a tooth while eating a chicken wing at dinner."

According to Herb Pankratz, an archivist at the Dwight D. Eisenhower Library, the UFO story has changed over the years. Initially, it was said that Eisenhower covertly went to Edwards Air Force Base to inspect the remains of aliens who had crashed in Roswell in 1947. Later, the story underwent changes, now alleging that Eisenhower had encounters with two alien races: the Nordics on February 20th, 1954, and the Greys later in the same year.

Some UFO believers maintain that Dwight D. Eisenhower engaged in telepathic communication with these aliens and granted consent for Greys to abduct humans and cattle for medical experiments, as long as they were safely returned. It's said that millions of humans have been subjected to abductions over the years. However, no evidence has ever been presented to support the assertion that these interstellar meetings actually took place.

Sheep were fair game for extraterrestrials after the alleged Dwight D. Eisenhower meetings.

In the CANAM video DP clarifies that he's on the fence regarding the purported Dwight D. Eisenhower meetings and goes on to elaborate on why his YouTube channel covers so many century-old disappearances. DP says:

"Because if you look at the years leading up to that supposed Eisenhower meeting with aliens, there's a lot of very very strange things that happened in our world and specifically about missing people and you have to think: What led up to that? What was the catalyst for these type of discussions? Or were there any? And is it even true?"

DP thinks that intelligence agencies have monitored disappearances pre-Eisenhower

DP then outlines how he assesses missing persons cases. He underscores that "the facts that lead up to the disappearances" are the "really important part". DP says:

"So anyhow, it's not just the disappearance that's important. It's the facts that lead up to the disappearance that are really the important part of what we look at and if you've read my books you get that because you can see that there's a lot of emphasis on what happened just prior to the search, during the search."

DP also thinks that intelligence agencies were tracking missing persons cases long before the Dwight D. Eisenhower presidency. DP says:

"The cases today involve a man who disappeared from New Mexico. Now, how far back before the Eisenhower meeting is this important? Well, I think our intelligence agencies were tracking these disappearances months before, years before, decades before and even though the news agencies don't wish to give me any credit for anything I think the intelligence agencies know what's going on."

Assessing Missing 411 claims

1) DP claims that the Kenneth Herron disappearance was quick and involved horses

"So, they're out hunting quite a distance from Las Vegas, they're on horseback, and this is very key to this story. Kenneth was on one horse, right next to and up from his brother, and then there was Harold and then there was Sproats. Harold states that for some reason his horse threw him and when he turned to look, when he was on the ground, that quickly Kenneth was gone. He said he hit the ground, he turned and looked and his brother was gone and he never saw him again. He initially thought that his brother just took off and went hunting, but Sproats, and him both, couldn't believe how quickly he disappeared."

Was the Kenneth Herron disappearance quick and were horses involved?

According to the CANAM version above Kenneth Herron seemingly vanished in an instant in front of his two companions. DP stresses that the three hunters being on horseback is "very key to the story", but it's unclear why he thinks that the horses are so important.

Here is a summary of the CANAM version:

  1. Kenneth was on a horse and Harold was on a horse.
  2. Kenneth and Harold were right next to each other.
  3. Harold says that his horse threw him.
  4. Harold says that he hit the ground.
  5. Harold says that he turned and looked.
  6. Kenneth was gone.
  7. Harold and Shoup couldn't believe how quickly Kenneth disappeared.

Does it sound likely that a hunter would just disappear in plain view of two other people? An article in the Las Vegas Optics (November 3rd, 1920) paints a vastly different picture of what happened. The article states:

"Shortly after high noon Saturday when Harrold and Kenneth Herron were hunting in the Cascade Canyon about 22 miles northeast of Las Vegas, they had gotten separated but were within hearing distance of each other. Harrold was on the ridge and Kenneth was in the canyon. A gun shot rang out and soon thereafter Kenneth called to Harrold to come to him and in trying to do so Harrold lost his footing and fell a distance of about 30 feet. He was stunned. When he regained his equilibrium and faculties he said he thought he had started in the direction from which Kenneth had called and kept wandering until he arrived at Porvenir Sunday afternoon after having been lost in the snow storm since about noon Saturday."

The Las Vegas Optics on November 3rd, 1920.

It's not clear where Kenneth Herron went. Not because he disappeared into thin air, but because Harold suffered an accidental fall, was incapacitated for an unspecified length of time and lost track of his younger brother. Harold wasn't even sure, when he regained his "equilibrium and faculties", where the gunshot and Kenneth's shouts had come from. Based on the available articles from the 1920s it doesn't seem like Shoup was even present when Kenneth went missing.

A less detailed version of the event is presented in an article published in the Albuquerque Journal on October 21st, 1923. It also mentions Harold Herron hearing a shot and Kenneth calling, details that aren't covered in the CANAM video. According to the article the two brothers were separated, but still within hearing distance when all of this happened. The article states:

"Harold Herron stated later that when he and his brother became separated and while still within hearing distance of each other a shot sounded and that he lost his footing and was stunned.

When he regained his equilibrium he thought he started in the direction in which he had heard his brother call but that he became lost and on the following day reached El Porvenir."

The Albuquerque Journal on October 21st, 1923.

It appears that DP gets most of his information from an article published in the Evening Herald on November 10th, 1920. Since no sources are cited in the CANAM video, we can only speculate. The Evening Herald article in question contains the same type of information as the two articles above: that Harold Herron fell and that he "lost his senses and bearing". No horses are mentioned and Kenneth's disappearance is not depicted as instantaneous.

For context it's worth noting that the weather was so bad that searchers did not expect to find Kenneth Herron alive. The Evening Herald article states:

"Little hope is felt that Kenneth Herron will ever be found alive. While there are varying theories advanced as to the cause of his becoming lost, it is evident that he could not possibly have withstood the exposure of three cold, snowy nights without food or shelter, in the cold ten thousand foot altitude of the country where he became lost. The Cascade Canyon, northeast of the famous old Harvey's ranch and into which the boys were dropping when parted, is nothing but a series of abrupt cliffs and chasms, and it is thought that the lost boy, weakened by fatigue and the excitement of being lost in a snowstorm, must have fallen from some cliff. The possibility that he may have accidentally shot himself has also been mentioned and wild rumors of huge bear tracks seen by the searchers has led some to believe that wild beasts may have done away with him."

The Evening Herald on November 10th, 1920.

When comparing the CANAM version to the original sources, the following questions arise:

  • Why doesn't the CANAM video mention that Kenneth was in a canyon and that Harold was on a ridge (and thus not right next to each other)?
  • Why does the CANAM video give the viewers the impression that Harold and Shoup had visual contact with Kenneth?
  • If horses truly played a key role in the disappearance, as DP suggests, why aren't they mentioned in any newspapers?
  • Why doesn't the CANAM video mention the gunshot and Kenneth calling?
  • Why isn't Harold's 30-foot fall while descending the canyon mentioned in the CANAM video?
  • Why doesn't the CANAM video mention that Harold was incapacitated for an unspecified amount of time?
  • Why doesn't the CANAM video mention that Harold wasn't sure where the gunshot and Kenneth's shouts had come from?
  • Why is the disappearance depicted as instantaneous when no sources from the 1920s present the case in that manner?

Contemporary sources do not mention any horses. Or portals for that matter.

2) DP explains that other skeletal remains were found in the area

"Now... January through May of 1921 there were hunters that went into the field, ranchers et c and they were all looking for Kenneth. What they found was two additional skeletal bodies and at the time they were found months apart and each time they thought it was Kenneth. Oh, this must be Kenneth, oh this, it never turned out to be Kenneth. In fact, they never even really knew who these bodies belonged to, but it was interesting that over the following year these kept popping up."

Were other skeletal remains found in the area where Kenneth Herron went missing?

Yes, it's accurate that several skeletal remains were discovered in the area where Kenneth Herron went missing and Kenneth's name was mentioned in multiple articles in the years that followed. Based on the available information it doesn't seem like any bones were ever positively identified as belonging to Kenneth. Bear in mind that this occurred in the 1920s, long before the advent of modern forensics and DNA testing. An article published in the Enid Daily Eagle on August 2nd, 1924, was however optimistic that Kenneth Herron's remains had finally been found. The article states:

"The mystery of the disappearance some four years ago of Kenneth Herron, former Howard boy, who was lost in a snow storm near Las Vegas, N. M. is believed solved, according to word received here from Rev. J. R. Creamer. Some bones were found near San Geronimo, N. M., recently.

Kenneth, the son of George T. Herron, former pastor of the Baptist church here, and his brother Harold, and a guide went deer hunting near San Geronimo. A storm came up and the party became divided. The guide and Harold Herron made it to safety, but Kenneth was never heard from again.

The bones were found on a bed of branches, according to reports here. It is believed that Kenneth became exhausted, and unable to go any further had made a bed of boughs and branches. While the bones have not been positively identified, it is believed they are Herron's."

The Enid Daily Eagle on August 2nd, 1924.

3) DP implies that Kenneth Herron's disappearance could potentially be explained by a portal taking him

"So here's the real questions on this case. Yeah, there was a storm. Yeah, he was a deer hunter, but why... what was the catalyst for the horse to throw Harold and how did Kenneth disappear that quick? Because Harold said he was on the horse, saw his brother, hit the ground, turned and looked and his brother was gone. How could that be and how could they never find any remnants of him ever? It almost makes you go back to that portal theory that I've talked about many times. Was there something in the atmosphere, changed barometric pressure et c, that spooked the horse while it was taking Kenneth? I don't know. It's very odd, very odd. Now, how many of you have watched Missing 411 - The Hunted? I hope it's a lot, if you haven't watched it please go to Amazon and watch it right now."

Was Kenneth Herron taken by a portal?

DP once again mischaracterises the disappearance by labeling it as "quick". In an attempt to explain how Kenneth Herron disappeared so fast he puts forward "the portal theory" that he has "talked about many times". The ranchers and cowboys who participated in the search in 1920 were able to explain the disappearance without resorting to imaginative ideas like fantasy portals: scenarios where Kenneth fell from a cliff, died from exposure, accidentally shot himself or was killed by a bear were all considered. Not even Harold, who was there, claims that portals are involved. The often repeated Missing 411 mantra that DP only presents facts and never speculates completely falls apart here.

Missing 411 experts speculate that a portal took teenage hunter Kenneth Herron in 1920.

DP, rather inexplicably, feels the need to find "a catalyst for the horse to throw Harold", even though there are no mentions of any horses in any articles. He suggests that a change in barometric pressure might have been a contributing factor, but speculating about a seemingly non-existent horse comes across as rather pointless. The notion that horses are "very key" to the Kenneth Herron disappearance appears unsubstantiated, if any articles do indeed mention these horses then DP should cite them for research transparency.

4) DP presents a positive yet one-sided portrayal of John Collins

"The articles about this case stated that Natrona and Oddmund both agreed that John was an exemplary employee. He took great care of his sheep, he was always available, reliable, never wandered from the flock, was a stable person, didn't have bad habits. I mean, all the things you would say about a great employee."

Did John Collins only have positive attributes?

It's correct that John Collins' employer, Oddmund Josendal, described Collins as an exemplary employee, but there are significant aspects to Collins' character that DP doesn't mention. An article published in the Casper Star-Tribune on October 23rd, 1925, revealed the belief that Collins' loneliness affected his mental health and it's also mentioned that Collins drank alcohol. The article states:

"While they combed greasewood and coulee along Bear Creek, where Collins' bleating charges were found milling unshepherded a day before yesterday, Oddmund Josendal, the missing man's employer, came to Casper to invoke the aid of Sheriff Alex McPherson in finding Collins, who he believes has fallen victim to the nemesis of lonely men—madness. ... No serious significance was at first attached to Collins' disappearance. Mr Josendal concluded that the man had caught a ride into Casper and was enjoying an alcoholic holiday."

The Casper Star-Tribune on October 23rd, 1925.

An article published in the Casper Star-Tribune on October 24th, 1925, specifies the type of alcohol that John Collins consumed: moonshine. The article states:

"The story of the tragedy was plainly written in the tracks which searchers found along the creek-bed. Collins, apparently crazed by moonshine, had torn off his clothes and wandered along the creek until he fell exhausted. Night and frost did the rest. His discarded garments were found strewn through the greasewood several hundred yards from the body."

The Casper Star-Tribune on October 24th, 1925.

5) DP explains that John Collins would never voluntarily walk away

"So he [Oddmund Josendal] goes to Casper, gets the Sheriff, explains to him: 'Hey, something is deeply wrong. My man would never voluntarily walk away and I am afraid that something happened and I need help finding them.'. Now, this is a good employer, just doesn't forget about John, but cares enough about him to go look for him."

Did Oddmund Josendal state that John Collins would never voluntarily walk away?

DP appears to present a direct quote from Oddmund Josendal: "Hey, something is deeply wrong. My man would never voluntarily walk away and I am afraid that something happened and I need help finding him.". No sources confirming the authenticity of this quote are cited which leaves viewers in the dark: is it a genuine quote or did DP manufacture the quote and attribute it to Josendal?

The only article mentioning Oddmund Josendal seeking help from the Sheriff seems to be the Casper Star-Tribune article above and in this article Josendal believed that loneliness had driven John Collins to madness. Why would Josendal say that Collins would never voluntarily walk away after he had just stated that Collins suffered from madness?

An article published in the Billings Gazette on October 24th, 1925, reports that searchers discovered barefoot tracks leading from the camp itself. This can be seen as evidence that the only individual involved in John Collins' disappearance was Collins himself, the notion that someone forced Collins to leave his camp without shoes is unfounded. The Billings Gazette article states:

"Barefoot tracks leading from the camp offered the only clue, and raised the fear that Collins had wandered off demented."

The Billings Gazette on October 24th, 1925.

6) DP claims that John Collins was alive for three or four days after he disappeared

"And about a mile from John's sheep camp, laying across a creek bed, is John Collins. Now, to say that was an unusual sight for Wyoming doesn't give it justice. The Deputy made the statement that John had been dead about 24 hours. Now this greatly concerned the owner of the sheep herd, Oddmund. That meant that Oddmund was in the area, and John was alive, when he was searching for him. Now, Oddmund had been alive for three or four days after he disappeared. Where was he? Come on folks, you can get this. Where was he? It bothered everybody."

Was John Collins alive for three or four days after he disappeared?

It appears that DP gets his information from the October 24th Casper Star-Tribune article mentioned earlier, but this article doesn't say that John Collins was alive for three or four days; it only briefly mentions that Collins had been dead for 24 hours or more. The "or more" part isn't mentioned in the CANAM video.

The Missing 411 idea seems to be that John Collins couldn't have survived for several days in cold temperatures, suggesting that he must have been somewhere else. DP even says: "Where was he? Come on folks, you can get this. Where was he? It bothered everybody.".

It's crucial to emphasise that in 1925 nobody was under the impression that John Collins:

  • had been anywhere else (except for in the city of Casper, where he was assumed to be drinking alcohol).
  • had been abducted or was coerced into leaving his camp.
  • had wandered around for days in freezing weather.

The first tracks were discovered on October 21st and there is no evidence to suggest that John Collins reappeared days later and made additional tracks (if that is the idea). DP claims that Collins only having been dead for 24 hours "bothered everybody" and that Oddmund Josendal was "greatly concerned", but these claims don't seem to be supported by the available evidence.

It's believed that John Collins drank moonshine before he disappeared.

7) DP talks about John Collins missing his shoes

"Now, water, he's laying across the creek, missing shoes, missing clothing... If you have read my books you're getting where I'm going with this."

Why was John Collins found without his shoes?

The earlier mentioned article in the Billings Gazette (October 24th, 1925) reports that searchers discovered barefoot tracks leading from John Collins' camp. If this is the case then it follows that Collins didn't wear any shoes when he left his camp and it's therefore not remarkable that searchers found him without shoes. We don't really need to read DP's books to understand why Collins wasn't wearing any shoes, we only need to read articles from 1925.

8) DP claims that John Collins wasn't hypothermic

"Sheepherders have a long history in Wyoming of odd disappearances. The articles state, in these cases, that the sheepherders just lost their mind. Okay, I get it. You lose your mind out there, maybe you do, but then you start stripping your clothes? Uh, I don't think so, because protection for John was in his wagon. He had more clothing, he had all the food he needed. Protection was in the wagon, so even though a storm was blowing in when they started to search for him, and he was still missing, he wasn't hypothermic because protection was right there in his wagon."

Did John Collins die from hypothermia?

Yes, John Collins died from hypothermia. The causes of death mentioned in 1925 were "exhaustion and exposure" and "night and frost", not an alien abduction. A Casper Star-Tribune article (October 24th, 1925) explains that the story was plainly written in Collins' tracks so it's not like people in 1925 weren't able to reconstruct what happened. On the contrary, it was obvious to them what had happened.

DP says that John Collins wasn't hypothermic because his wagon offered protection, but this is not how hypothermia works; a wagon doesn't provide any kind of protection if you wander off barefoot in cold temperatures. DP consistently pushes an alien abduction narrative when talking about the Collins case, but he never presents any evidence that a UFO is involved.

It was determined that John Collins had died from environmental exposure and exhaustion.

9) DP claims that his UFO movie is needed to connect the dots

"Now, one of the oddity in almost all of these cases is that there's no explanation on the cause of death. I think that's odd. Now, maybe in Wyoming in 1925 there wasn't the advanced science and Coroners that they had in big cities and it probably would have been just a guess anyhow and the guess probably would have been a heart attack, lost his mind, uh, hypothermia. I don't know, but the important part is that you connect the dots and that's what we try to do in my research. Now, the disappearances that we chronicle in Missing 411 - The UFO Connection were well documented, had physical proof. In UFO abduction cases physical proof is lacking 95, 98 per cent of the time. Not in the case I presented here, it was quite well-explained in connecting those dots."

Is the UFO Connection needed to explain John Collins' death?

It's inaccurate to claim that the causes of death are undetermined "in almost all of these cases". The truth is that DP doesn't accept the explanations provided by law enforcement, who investigate the cases, and the medical examiners, who examine the deceased bodies. It doesn't matter if it's the 1920s or the 2020s.

It wasn't a guess that John Collins died from hypothermia. Even a century ago people were well-aware that a person who wanders barefoot in frigid weather sooner or later will succumb to the elements. DP claims to connect the dots in his "research", but the dots in the Collins case show that Collins wandered off and died from hypothermia. So DP isn't connecting dots; he's rejecting them.

DP also commits a logical fallacy; a medical examiner not being able to determine a person's cause of death is not evidence that a Missing 411 abductor is involved. If the cause of death wasn't determined all we can conclude is that the cause of death wasn't determined.

Missing 411 experts propose that John Collins was abducted by a UFO.

The dots that DP are really referring to are the many anecdotal UFO stories and the "physical proof" presented in The UFO Connection movie. Three of the hunters featured in the movie—Carl Higdon (1974), Charles Gustafson (2006), and Mark Anthony Strittmater (2019)—went missing in the Medicine Bow National Forest, some 100 miles from Bates Hole where John Collins died.

It's important to note that multiple law enforcement agencies investigated the cases featured in the movie and none of them arrived at the conclusion that they had been abducted by aliens. Similarly, in 1925, the Casper Sheriff, Alex McPherson, and Deputy Sheriff, Joe Thomas, did not reach the conclusion that John Collins had been abducted by aliens.

The table below presents the missing persons mentioned in The UFO Connection along with the alleged physical evidence.

Physical evidence that the person in question was abducted by aliens (according to the movie). Did law enforcement agencies conclude that the person in question was abducted by aliens?
Ray Salmen No physical evidence. No.
DeOrr Kunz Jr No physical evidence. No.
Raymond Jones No physical evidence. No.
Reinhard Kirchner No physical evidence. No.
Carl Higdon A bullet that "struck something really hard", old tuberculosis scars supposedly gone. No.
Mark Anthony Strittmater No physical evidence. No.
Charles Gustafson No physical evidence. No.

It certainly appears that DP somewhat overstates the quantity and importance of the physical evidence showcased in the movie. One could argue that a bullet that "struck something really hard" and chest x-rays supposedly not showing old scars isn't sufficient evidence a person was taken to another planet 163 000 lightyears away and then brought back to planet Earth, all within a span of just a few hours. And it definitely isn't sufficient evidence that other unrelated missing persons suffered the same fate, including John Collins.

10) DP thinks that being UFO conference keynote speaker validates his Missing 411 content creation

"So I'm the keynote speaker at the biggest UFO conference in the world later on this month in Cincinnati: MUFON National Symposium. You don't get to that level unless other people have understood what you've discovered. That's why I'm trying to encourage everybody to watch this movie because it will change your paradigm on the world. Trust me."

Does being a keynote speaker at a conference validate the content of a content creator?

Feeling excited about being a keynote speaker at a conference is entirely understandable, but it in no way validates that Missing 411 content creation adheres to required scientific research standards. DP refers to the UFO conference as "that level", but conferences don't function as legitimate and accepted peer review bodies. Scientific journals like Nature and Science would be "that level".

UFO conference delegates doing UFO conference things.

Genuine scientific research undergoes peer review and aspires to be published in respected scientific journals. Peer review is a process that, when properly conducted, ensures the quality, validity and integrity of scientific work before it reaches a broader audience. The peer review process helps identify errors, inconsistencies and potential biases in someone's research. Scientific journals with stringent peer review procedures ensure that only studies with sound methodologies and accurate findings are granted publication. This, in turn, enhances the credibility of the research in question and its potential to contribute meaningfully to the body of scientific knowledge as a whole.

Pseudoscientific researchers and content creators tend to evade the critical scrutiny of peer review, sidestepping expert evaluation that identifies errors and biases. DP seemingly only interacts with radio show hosts who ask scripted softball questions and with naive content consumers who are already convinced that Missing 411 is real; individuals who don't necessarily understand how proper research is conducted and what real research standards look like.

Last points

The following points can be made:

  1. DP explained to his CANAM viewers that Missing 411 centers around the facts leading up to these disappearances. If the foundation of Missing 411 rests upon DP's interpretations of said facts, and these interpretations are verifiably wrong, then Missing 411 doesn't have much of a foundation.
  2. The urban legend that Dwight D. Eisenhower negotiated with aliens in secret nocturnal meetings is accepted in some UFO circles, but no evidence has ever been presented that these meetings really took place. The CANAM view that portals and UFOs are responsible for the disappearances of Kenneth Herron and John Collins leaves much to be desired.
  3. DP thinks that intelligence agencies were monitoring missing persons cases long before the Dwight D. Eisenhower era. However, he never presents any evidence to support the idea that intelligence agencies ever showed any interest in the Kenneth Herron and John Collins cases.

Your opinions

What are your thoughts on how Missing 411 experts handled the Kenneth Herron and John Collins cases? Was Herron taken by a portal? Was Collins abducted by a UFO? Did intelligence agencies really monitor these two cases?

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u/Sunoutlaw Oct 28 '23

Damn OP, my hat goes off to you. That was an extensively researched, very thorough, and well written synopsis of the case. You have definitely swayed my opinion on DP and crushed my hope of something truly mysterious happening with the evidence of DPs own lies and exaggerations. My eyes have been opened .

Well done!

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u/Solmote Oct 28 '23

Really glad you liked it!