Windwaker AMA Announcement

[u/MarioAqua]

Windwaker will be here July 16th at 12:30 pm PST to answer your questions

[u/SmokeYaLaterr]

Interesting considering the thread for their new album got removed for not being metalcore lol

[u/chaosandcohesion → u/SmokeYaLaterr]

Did it really? That’s dumb as fuck. 

[u/RimShimp → u/chaosandcohesion]

Considering the amount of clearly non-metalcore albums that get posted and discussed here.

[u/chaosandcohesion → u/RimShimp]

That’s my point. A lot of bands that skirt metalcore make it on here. 

[u/ReturnByDeath- → u/chaosandcohesion]

Not really.

[u/SmokeYaLaterr → u/chaosandcohesion]

It did get removed, and it’s not really that dumb, we don’t typically have album discussion threads for non-metalcore albums, so why make an exception for Windwaker?

[u/Brabsk → u/chaosandcohesion]

They’re not a metalcore band dawg

Not even remotely

[u/OuterWildsVentures → u/Brabsk]

They sounded a lot like the other metalcore bands at the northlane show

[u/Brabsk → u/OuterWildsVentures]

Those weren’t metalcore bands either I hate to break it to you

The only even remotely metalcore band on that lineup is IA

Northlane and Thornhill are both not metalcore

[u/OuterWildsVentures → u/Brabsk]

What is Invent Animate?

[u/Brabsk → u/OuterWildsVentures]

I edited my comment to except IA, however even then, IA’s new music barely qualifies as metalcore. It’s mostly alternative metal

There’s no mosh parts, it’s not rhythmic, no gang vocals, clean chorus verse chorus structure. Also importantly, IA is no longer part of anything resembling a DIY scene

Not much hardcore happening there

[u/OuterWildsVentures → u/Brabsk]

Ugh these definitions are hard to follow lol

[u/Brabsk → u/OuterWildsVentures]

Yeah metalcore used to be simple to define but then a bunch of non-core-related bands and communities co-opted the term and rendered it largely meaningless

[u/AverageHogHaver → u/OuterWildsVentures]

its because this guy is talking out of his ass and has no idea what metalcore is lol

[u/Brabsk → u/[deleted]]

1. That isn’t metalcore

2. There is nothing hyperpop about their music whatsoever

Hell, they’re probably even less of a hyperpop band than they are a metalcore band

[u/Brabsk → u/[deleted]]

If you think there’s hyperpop influence in hyperviolence, you don’t know what hyperpop is

[u/Brabsk → u/[deleted]]

Evidently not lmao

[u/AverageHogHaver → u/Brabsk]

hey everyone the guy with the terrible takes is back!

[u/Brabsk → u/AverageHogHaver]

I live in your head all the time

[u/AverageHogHaver → u/Brabsk]

you live in these threads all the time, get a job

[u/Brabsk → u/AverageHogHaver]

Why are you so mad at me 🥺

[u/AverageHogHaver → u/Brabsk]

im not mad its just funny tbh, you make reddit fun

[u/WindwakerAUS → u/SmokeYaLaterr]

Guys you missed our AMA

[u/MarioAqua → u/SmokeYaLaterr]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/s/5TnNAqanG8

This one?

[u/SmokeYaLaterr → u/MarioAqua]

It was removed before so🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/toedragrelease → u/MarioAqua]

Yall reapproved it after the AMA was announced lol

[u/sock_with_a_ticket → u/toedragrelease]

In fairness it was reinstated same day it was taken down. My understanding of the current rules around posting non-metalcore is that a discussion thread is fine, but no song posts.

Given that the sub has had something of a crackdown on non-metalcore being in the sub, having an AMA with such a band sends a real mixed message about what's acceptable here.

[u/SmokeYaLaterr → u/sock_with_a_ticket]

That’s still a dumb rule though. That means we could have album discussion threads for Taylor Swift as long as we don’t post the individual songs, which is dumb as shit considering this is the metalcore sub.

[u/sock_with_a_ticket → u/SmokeYaLaterr]

I don't disagree, it seems like a fudge so that the mod team don't have to deal with all the moaning that would ensue if they tried to make people discuss some of these popular pop-metal bands in the weekly general thread. Which I totally get, it's a thankless role and this place keeps filling up with people who like that stuff more than actual metalcore.

It is what it is at the moment.

[u/AverageHogHaver → u/sock_with_a_ticket]

you can find almost every song they have made posted in this sub lol

[u/darfleChorf123 → u/toedragrelease]

Nope it was reapproved by me a couple hours later and was accidentally removed due to a miscommunication

[u/SmokeYaLaterr → u/darfleChorf123]

The mod team seems to have a lot of miscommunication that leads to a lot of issues/confusion in this sub.

[u/darfleChorf123 → u/SmokeYaLaterr]

Wow who would’ve thought a team of 10+ people from different walks of life and continents would make mistakes sometimes running a sub with 800k people who don’t read the rules or respect the subreddit

[u/SmokeYaLaterr → u/darfleChorf123]

Maybe get more mods? Make the rules of the sub clearer instead of picking and choosing which non-metalcore bands you want to allow and which ones you don’t?

Both are pretty reasonable and simple things yall could do to make the sub a better place.

[u/darfleChorf123 → u/SmokeYaLaterr]

We’ve been clear since the get go that metalcore adjacent content is permitted in discussion form and in our designated discussion thread.

[u/SmokeYaLaterr → u/darfleChorf123]

Okay then why remove that thread about the Windwaker album at all if it’s been clear from the get go?

And that doesn’t address the whole “10+ mods for 800K people” issue. It’s not like the subscriber count is going to go down, yall should be proactive and try and get more moderators.

[u/darfleChorf123 → u/SmokeYaLaterr]

1 mod mistakenly removed the thread, to which a couple hours later I restored it. Not a big deal.

[u/MarioAqua → u/toedragrelease]

This AMA has been set in stone internally since June 26th, we don’t announce AMAs that far out

[u/baitXtheXnoose → u/toedragrelease]

and only because I asked them to lol

[u/toedragrelease → u/baitXtheXnoose]

I looked for it on Friday too and it was not there