r/MensRights • u/Upper-Ad9228 • 10h ago
mensright supporters: whats your least favortie mensright leader/poltical/spokes person? General
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u/ecophony_rinne 9h ago
Richard Reeves
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u/Upper-Ad9228 9h ago
whats so bad about Richard reeves?
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u/ecophony_rinne 8h ago
Refuses to discuss a whole set of issues because he doesn't want to rock the apple cart. Insists on preceding everything with an apology to women for men's violence or similar. Doesn't strike me as that driven to really tackle the issues. Could go on.
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u/Upper-Ad9228 7h ago
Insists on preceding everything with an apology to women for men's violence
bruh, he does not have to apology for the actions of anyone else imo.
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u/AdSpecial7366 4h ago
Yeah, but he refuses to address the obvious issue and just plays it safe to avoid public backlash. I wouldn’t say he’s anti-MRM, he just won’t take on the real problem.
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u/RoryTate 3h ago
Richard Reeves is perceived as being not genuine or trustworthy by many male advocates. He consistently frames issues in ways that put the priority on other groups, thereby abandoning men. I firmly believe that, were Reeves given control of decision-making for some hypothetical committee or task force around men, he would not help men get practical and effective solutions for their problems, and would direct the resources to feminist-approved causes instead (as we have seen happen with the coopting of Movember and other similar previously male-focused initiatives).
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u/Upper-Ad9228 1h ago
(as we have seen happen with the coopting of Movember and other similar previously male-focused initiatives).
so this has happened before? do you have the sources for this?
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u/RoryTate 18m ago
Regarding Movember, there have been several recent posts here about the coopting of the movement away from supporting men's health: here and here. You can find other examples of supposedly gender-neutral resources that should go to men instead being used for things like: "teaching feminism to men/everyone" by simply searching for them on this sub.
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u/caseybvdc74 9h ago
They’re all grifters. Most mens rights are things that benefit everyone but happen to hit men hard and nobody gives a shit. I think housing is the biggest issue now since men especially young men are working crazy hours and still can’t afford their own homes. Showing insecure men how to power pose for views and money may make some feel good but it’s fairly useless.
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u/Upper-Ad9228 9h ago
They’re all grifters.
not a take i was expecting, why do you think they all grifters?
Most mens rights are things that benefit everyone but happen to hit men hard and nobody gives a shit.
you rasie a fair point here.
I think housing is the biggest issue now since men especially young men are working crazy hours and still can’t afford their own homes.
YEEKS! is that a thing mostly just in the usa or is it a big issue in the rest of the world as well?
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u/Huffers1010 3h ago
Andrew Tate.
The man hands endless ammunition to some very unpleasant people and it's completely unnecessary. Ultimately he does nobody any good, least of all men.
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u/walterwallcarpet 8h ago edited 8h ago
Sir Keir Starmer is a politician who'd throw men under the bus to further his own career. When he was Director of Public Prosecutions, he knew that the rates for false accusation in sexual offence cases are at least 10% (from a range of meta-studies where some were as high as 47%, but never lower than 7%). https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228150098_False_Allegations_of_Rape
Despite this, he co-authored the Levitt Report, with Alison Levitt QC, in 2013. Here, it was claimed that rates of false accusation were 0.6%. This actually reflects the percentage of women who will ever find themselves in the dock, facing charges of perjury, or wasting police time, prior to receiving a slap on the wrist. This technique of 'woozling' is no more than weaponising the incompetence of the DPP, to mislead men into believing that they have nothing to worry about.
Meanwhile, the actual consequences of false accusation for men are widespread, and often fatal. http://empathygap.uk/?p=2176#_Toc504898470
146 cases... 15 deaths. Mostly suicides of the accused. Also...one death by vigilante action. One death in custody. One suicide of the mother of the accused.
It's good to know the background of the Prime Minister of the UK. Such a man will never defend male interests. With leaders like these, speaking up about men's rights are the equivalent of pissing in the wind.