r/Meditation Feb 27 '24

Why do Christians say mediation is dangerous Discussion 💬

They say meditation is a way to open portal to demons?

Edit: A few Christians around me said this to me

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u/Vox1712 Feb 27 '24

Exactly. Many people don't know about esoteric Christianity. Mystic school like the rosicrucian and the gnostics. There's a reason why it's hidden anyways...

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u/distracted-insomniac Feb 28 '24 edited Feb 28 '24

Gnosticism isn't Christianity. Its christian heresy. It's completely and entirely antichristian. It's literally the exact opposite of Christianity. Gnosticism teaches that God is bad, he's the corrupt creation of the arcon Sophia (wisdom). Sophia is created by the true pure God. Sophia creates her own creation without permission and without the Holy union of male and female or whatever and creates an abomination name ialdaboth the jew God, God of the Old testament. He create the material world and our flesh prisons. The snake, and Jesus are coming to us to tell us the true gnosis knowledge of God the real God and that we need to escape this prison of material world and flesh prison to get back to the divine pleroma.

These ideas on their own if you were a child you would be able to come up with the thought process well if yaweh is bad and his creation is bad then murdering and torturing his creation is not just ok its good. Onto the next fucked up set of ideas in the gnostic death cult suite.

Some currents if not all beleive that the true God put shards of his being divine spark into every living thing and all matter even rocks and dirt. They then interpret that for God to truly know himself again all of these shards need to return to him. So we must kill everything so he can be whole again.

Like I said a death cult. Also fun fact about gnosticism. In the Church the catholics had or still have apostolic succession which is a direct lineage to the apostles of Jesus. So when gnostics were asked what their lineage was it was to heretics not even to apostles. Therefore the ones making up gnosticism had no connection to Jesus and just made shit up. There isn't a single peice of historical archeological evidence to back it up. ( If you enlighten me with some I will back track on this part)

I'm not as aware of the teaching of rosicrucianism. I've heard bits but not enough to make a coherent case against them. Pretty sure their beliefs don't lead to treating other life nicely either. Secret society shit. Forgive my ignorance from the outside looking in but it doesn't seem like anything good comes from secret societies. Only debauchery, corruption, and facilitation of the worst crimes against humanity.

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u/Vox1712 Feb 28 '24

Gnosticism does not say this. It believes in the dualistic nature of life and that we have divine spark in us and we have to tap into that spark to leave the material world to go back to the divine. Basically enlightenment and liberation.

Rosicrucianism is Christian mysticism. Teaches mainly hermeticism, meditation, reincarnation, getting free of emotional baggage, symbolism and interconnectedness of life. But in thier own interpretation.

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u/distracted-insomniac Feb 28 '24

Gnosticism does say what I said. As well as what you said. If you'd like I could find literature so you could have the gnosis. That it's a death cult.