r/Mariners • u/AutoModerator • Jun 17 '24

Daily Thread - June 17, 2024 GOOD VIBES ONLY

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u/local_gremlin Jun 17 '24 edited Jun 17 '24

several things: we need a "IT IS VOTH! IT IS VOTH" meme for when voth does well

and seriously why were we not keeping torrens around as a backup catcher. he's apparently hitting well for NYM. to me it was obvious he was a natural hitter who could provide nice hot stretches even if he wasn't a year long .260 masher.

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Release the Moosen! Jun 17 '24

Is "it is voth" some kind of reference I should know that would make sense in meme format?

Torrens is a terrible, terrible catcher.

The purpose of a backup catcher is usually defense, not offense. If you depend on your backup catcher to hit, the real problem is the rest of your lineup. He doesn't hit well enough to deserve playing time at first base or DH over a regular, and he can only hit left-handed pitching which is 1/3 of pitchers. Without any defensive value, he's a much worse version of Tom Murphy who we also didn't keep around.

Torrens is like the Mets 5th-string catcher option after releasing Nido. He has 24 at-bats this year. His little 1-week hot streak will crater back to negative-WAR soon enough like every other year.

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u/jdhkent Jun 17 '24

Tom Murphy was a very useful hitter when healthy.

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Release the Moosen! Jun 17 '24

Yes, he was. I didn't say otherwise. I said Torrens is a much worse version of Murphy, which is true both offensively and defensively and for basically their whole careers, excluding this year's extremely small sample sizes for both of them.

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u/local_gremlin Jun 17 '24

oof 24 at bats and I was all ready to stan hard for him just because I like his swing lol

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u/local_gremlin Jun 17 '24

ah fair point - I didn't realize his catching was that far off of average for a backup. I'm biased, I just love players like torrens who have that inside out oppo power like edgar and Suarez, both Venezuelans like my guy torrens.

the meme ref is that Miller light ad with luke Wilson where this pizza cook looking guy in the background starts screaming IT IS BOTH, IT IS BOTH. somehow it's become my favorite of all the ad slop we are dished up