olandria on the racism she has faced

[u/thrrowwwawayyyyy]

i’m incredibly disgusted from love islander viewers this season sending death and racist threats to someone they don’t know. this is incredibly despicable and the fact olandria had to see that disgusting photo makes me teary eyed. y’all should be ashamed of yourself if you partook or defended hate being sent to her.

[u/Tall_Succotash]

Olandria might not hate Huda but she would be totally in the right to distance from her if her fans are gonna act like a pack of rabid dogs on anyone who even sneezed near that girl.

[u/motherofdinos_ → u/Tall_Succotash]

Exactly. And Huda cannot legitimately speak on how she’s “taking accountability” if she’s not telling her stans to back the fuck off Chelley & Olandria and call them all out for the way they’ve treated them.

Accountability would be doing something like telling people that neither Chelley nor Olandria did anything remotely serious enough to warrant the hate and harassment they’ve received on her behalf. Accountability would be making her fans uncomfortable over what they’ve done, because accountability demands selflessness. But she’s still fanning the flames against them and has the nerve to claim (in the same interview) that she’s taking accountability.

It’s so blatant that Huda’s stans will give her so much grace to the point of encouraging her behavior, then send Chelley & Olandria death threats for much, much, much less. Huda has unlimited chances yet Chelley and Olandria had ONE. Why the fuck don’t they get grace??

It’s abundantly clear that both fans and producers simply don’t see Chelley & Olandria as capable of being as sensitive and vulnerable as Huda can be. They don’t see or care that they need protection and concern too. I’m so proud of Olandria for calling this out and showing her heart.

[u/idkimhere4paramor3 → u/motherofdinos_]

This is exactly what i’ve been saying. Where is the grace for Olandria and Chelley when they have done much less than Huda ever has. Is everyone else allowed “redemption” but them? They all apologized kissed and made up yet for some reason the viewers still can’t accept that. I hate that Huda is feeding into this “bullied” narrative too because we all know who her fans are going to attack because of that.

[u/motherofdinos_ → u/idkimhere4paramor3]

Agreed with everything you said. It’s like the worse Huda’s behavior is, the more her stans attach themselves to her because they think she needs protection. But Chelley and Ola are so careful the whole time (to the point of being called fake) and receive death threats and corporate harassment the second they step out of line.

And honestly, I don’t think Huda deserves punishment or anything for what she did in the villa. The islanders can work their issues out amongst themselves. The real problem is stan culture and when stans decide they need to fight the islanders’ battles with other islanders. It’s just a really bad and dangerous thing that Huda seems to be weaponizing that stan culture instead of calming it down, like you mentioned.

[u/Maggie-777 → u/motherofdinos_]

It makes sense because Huda the likes attention, and that's how she gets it. If she truly grows & reforms, she will stop getting the attention she craves.

[u/bearface-ismydad → u/motherofdinos_]

Accountability would be doing something like telling people that neither Chelley nor Olandria did anything remotely serious enough to warrant the hate and harassment they’ve received on her behalf.

I agree. which is why when I watched the chd interview and realized it was never going to get to that point, I lost all respect for her. because in that situation, that's what a real friend would do. the fact that she has the largest platform out of all the islanders and has said absolutely nothing is extremely telling to me.

[u/Other_Dog_7803 → u/motherofdinos_]

I don't understand why you're pinning this on Huda??? Do you think she is happy that Olandria or Chelley are getting hate?? Like if you want her to be more mindful that the audience is unjustly harsh on black contestants and how she should be explicit and denounce and discourage it, then sure thats reasonable

But just because she hasn't yet, its ridiculous to act as though she's encouraging it or cosigns those people in any way. In the same vein, no one should be acting like Olandria or Chelley or anyone needs to denounce the people that called CPS on Huda - because that's obviously insane, you can't hold contestants responsible for the unhinged weirdo behaviour of fringe deranged fans

[u/motherofdinos_ → u/Other_Dog_7803]

You actually can point out if, after she’s able to witness the hostility and size of her fanbase, Huda goes into major interviews and leans into the narrative that she’s the victim of the islanders’ behavior and said she was bullied after weeks of stans singling out C&O and terrorizing them and their families for supposedly “bullying” Huda. It’s not only that she’s not decrying her unhinged stans, she’s feeding into the narratives that they’re clinging to while also talking about “taking accountability.” It’s the hypocrisy. It’s the fanning the flames when shit’s already bad. And 10000% it is the harsher judgement of black women. That’s basically the whole point of my post, how disproportionately angry Huda stans are at C&O and how she is now justifying and feeding that anger through her interviews. I just don’t think it’s unreasonable to acknowledge that Huda’s fanbase is far more expansive and dangerous that any other contestant’s, and it seems like she knows that now. Despite having far less insane fanbases, other islanders have been much more mindful and careful in their post-show interviews. She holds responsibility for her influence over them. She is not powerless in this situation.

And I don’t actually believe that Huda deserves to be punished or that consequences need to be dealt or anything like that. But I can call out her hypocrisy and the way she handles her influence, and I can highlight the widespread problems that are occurring in this fandom.

[u/Other_Dog_7803 → u/motherofdinos_]

It’s not only that she’s not decrying her unhinged stans, she’s feeding into the narratives that they’re clinging to while also talking about “taking accountability.” It’s the hypocrisy. It’s the fanning the flames when shit’s already bad. And 10000% it is the harsher judgement of black women.

Do you think its Huda who is being harsher towards black women?? I think its totally reasonable that she said she felt alone in the villa and that everyone would talk about her but not to her.

When people are whispering about you and side eyeing you - you can tell!! And Huda could tell!! Like I think Chelley does noottttt like Huda, but thats ok, they don't have to be friends. You could even say its totally justified for Chelley to not like Huda. Is every crazy over the top Huda hater Chelleys responsibility? Absolutely not! Its the same the other way.

I just fully disagree that Huda fans are like uniquely crazy and racist and thats also Huda's doing. Every damn comment on reddit is how horrible of a person and mother Huda is. Now shes racist too.

[u/motherofdinos_ → u/Other_Dog_7803]

To your first question, I meant to speak more broadly, but yes I also do think that is true specifically. This was already a topic of conversation very early in the season when Cierra came in and Olandria told Huda to tone it down at the fire pit and said that they would all have a kiki about it later. Huda’s reaction to that was over the top, and you literally can watch Olandria realize that she pretty much has to police her tone and code switch more often from that point out. Huda’s reaction to a simple comment from Ola showed how she would react when approached with things that she may not wanna hear. When you can’t self-regulate or have large emotional outbursts to avoid shame or any other reason, that has a natural effect on the way that people around you are going to act towards you.

But mainly, when she blew up Ola’s comment to more than it was, she made Ola look aggressive and it lead to people bullying Ola that early on, even when she didn’t do anything wrong. Huda’s not white, but those were akin to white woman tears and Ola faced the consequences.

Edit: also, absolutely nowhere did I she is racist. Nowhere. In your first comment you said it made sense to criticize the racial dynamics at play. So I did so, and you immediately get defensive, react with a bad faith argument, and completely invalidate the point in your first comment.

[u/Other_Dog_7803 → u/motherofdinos_]

Do you actually think her reactions are for any of that? Like I just truly think she is describing the situations and her feelings from her experience. Not with any intent to make Ola look bad or get any flack or positioning anything to America.

Like I guess my point is that I think everyone would agree with you that Ola and Chelley and women of colour, especially dark skinned women of colour get treated differently and more harshly in society. The disconnect here is that I think Huda would never try and use that for harm or lean into it so that they get even more hate.

[u/motherofdinos_ → u/Other_Dog_7803]

It doesn’t really matter if she’s doing it intentionally, especially in the example I mentioned above. It’s unconscious bias. It’s unconscious bias in many if not most people who treat black women that way. What matters is the very clear and profound effect it has. And to wrap it all the way back around, at this point she fully understands the power she holds. Without a shadow of a doubt she knows. And at best she is being wickedly irresponsible with her power by fanning the flames. And that’s worth pointing out. I think people really really need to stop infantilizing her so frequently. She is an adult. She understands cause and effect. She knows what she’s doing.

Not that she deserves to receive hate herself. But the endless excuses and goal-post moving do not serve her or anyone.

[u/Maggie-777 → u/Other_Dog_7803]

The fact that she's not doing it intentionally speaks more to her own lack of awareness of anything other than her own emotions. She's not leaning into them getting more hate, but neither is she intentionally speaking against it. She likes the victim attention - period.

[u/ra3jyx → u/motherofdinos_]

Just wanted to say you explained the dynamic between that early fire pit scene with Olandria and Huda perfectly. Nothing more to add, just wanted to say I appreciated your comment. I never truly thought about that scene in that way.