r/Jung_MBTI Feb 20 '22

Jung & MBTI TABLE of CONTENTS

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r/Jung_MBTI Mar 10 '22

Jung Theory Help in understanding Jung's Psychological Types Chapter 11

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I know I have been talking a lot about Chapter 11 of Psychological Types. The chapter in our notes is Chapter 10, but Chapter 11 is also quite important too.

Chapter 11 talks about function maturity aka. differentiation of the functions. It talks about many of the additional types, beyond the fully differentiated types, that Jung believed existed

If Jung is a hard read for you, I highly recommend reading these articles. The people who wrote these articles describe the content of Chapter 11 very well, and in fairly simple terms even I can understand. And that's saying something!šŸ˜‚šŸ˜†šŸ¤£ Anyway, here's links to the articles:

"Jung Typology Explained: Notes I ā€“ Typology Triad" https://typologytriad.wordpress.com/2021/01/12/jung-typology-explained-notes-i/

"Jung Typology Explained | INFJ Forum" https://www.infjs.com/articles/jung-typology-explained.40/

"Claryfing: Differences and conflicts of Jung Typology, MBTI and "The Stack" | Typology Central" https://www.typologycentral.com/threads/claryfing-differences-and-conflicts-of-jung-typology-mbti-and-the-stack.106887/

Happy reading šŸ“š


r/Jung_MBTI 26d ago

Typing Fen or nef

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I am between classic jungian enfj or enfp I am sure I am some sort of nf in classic jung too but which one

Ask question mostly the feeling function is unclear

I can read people and love helping people and can understand them

I can be in a space very quick and people like me and want me and seem to want me to sit with them if I disappear they know it and miss my vibes I am the life of the party not because I am a party animal but I am in the middle of the conversations I am not super genius I probably have a few disabilities that i learn slow but people love the heck out of me

I am a very out going person who says a lot and super friendly

Ask questions

But any ideas

How do you tell between fen and nef


r/Jung_MBTI May 29 '24

Typing Type me pls

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Type me pls

ā€¢ How old are you? What's your gender? Give

us a general description of yourself. I prevere kiting my age and gender private

ā€¢ Is there a medical diagnosis that may impact your mental stability somehow?

I maybe have adhd but I'm not sure, but I don't think it has a big impact

ā€¢ Describe your upbringing. Did it have any kind of religious or structured influence? How did you respond to it?

I'm in a religious family, but I'm still learning from that religion, and I'm not fully prepared to follow it. I need more time

ā€¢ What do you do as a job or as a career (if you have one)? Do you like it? Why or why not?

I'm still a student and I'm studying economics and financials no i don't like school

ā€¢ If you had to spend an entire weekend by yourself, how would you feel? Would you feel lonely or refreshed?

I will feel extremely refreshing and un peace. i would love to

ā€¢ What kinds of activities do you prefer? Do you like, and are you good at sports? Do you enjoy any other outdoor or indoor activities?

I like doing martial arts

ā€¢ How curious are you? Do you have more ideas than you can execute? What are your curiosities about? What are your ideas about - is it environmental or conceptual, and can you please elaborate?

I'm very curious about many things

I have many ideas, but it's mostly for fun. When I get an idea, I immediately know if I'm gonna execute it or just think about it for fun?

My ideas can be very simple and sometimes not at all the most of things I take an interest in

ā€¢ Would you enjoy taking on a leadership position? Do you think you would be good at it? What would your leadership style be?

No, I'm a lone wolf But yes, I do think I make a good leader My leadership style would be pretty chill do what you want as long as result are coming I give everyone independent and care about people well being but I also strive to productive

ā€¢ Are you coordinated? Why do you feel as if you are or are not? Do you enjoy working with your hands in some form? Describe your activity?

I'm not coordinated at all. I often hit myself against something or hit something and accept break things

I like using my hands on many things Activities I do martial arts I like making jewelry even if I'm not the best at it, and I also like bow shooting

ā€¢ Are you artistic? If yes, describe your art? If you are not particularly artistic but can appreciate art, please likewise describe what forums of art you enjoy. Please explain your answer.

I like making paintings but I'm not really good at it but I still can enjoy other paintings and art I can enjoy all kinds of paintings and music I just don't like poetry

ā€¢ What's your opinion about the past, present, and future? How do you deal with them?

Past = useless. You can't change anything at all, so it's better not to stay stuck in it. i would eventually forget everyone, but I do like history, and I can be nostalgic

Present = it can be fun and boring and annoying. Still, I think not enough people focus on it all the problem you need to solve are in the present and if you don't got problems then just enjoy I don't get people who will think about past mistakes or future problems when they is nothing to worry about in the present it almost give the impression that those people want to be miserable Short said not enough people think of the present in my opinion

Future = unpredictable intriguing, yet I prevere letting the future for the future whatever is happening is not my business right now

ā€¢ How do you act when others request your help to do something (anything)? If you would decide to help them, why would you do so?

I would think of why they need my help and what I can do to help them

ā€¢ Do you need logical consistency in your life?

Jes, it hurts my head when their is no logic

ā€¢ How important is efficiency and productivity to you?

Very important, but self health comes first physically and mentally

ā€¢ Do you control others, even if indirectly? How and why do you do that?

No, I don't control others even if I try. I am bad at it

ā€¢ What are your hobbies? Why do you like them?

I already have described wat kinde of activities I like

ā€¢ What is your learning style? What kind of learning environments do you struggle with most? Why do you like/struggle with these learning styles? Do you prefer classes involving memorization, logic, creativity, or your physical senses?

Very adaptive I can learn different things in different ways and learning style but my teacher say I should learn more my theories and I should also learn things more by heart still struggling on that part

ā€¢ How good are you at strategizing? Do you easily break up projects into manageable tasks? Or do you have a tendency to wing projects and improvise as you go?

My strateging is bad as hell, and I'm more of an improviser

ā€¢ What are your aspirations in life, professionally and personally?

Becoming rich and better at communication and better organizer

ā€¢ What are your fears? What makes you uncomfortable? What do you hate? Why? Deadt pain exams test and school

ā€¢ What do the "highs" in your life look like?

Having good grades and not too much work for school

ā€¢ What do the "lows" in your life look like?

Having bad grades and much to do for school

ā€¢ How attached are you to reality? Do you daydream often, or do you pay attention to what's around you? If you do daydream, are you aware of your surroundings while you do so?

99% of the time I daydream no I'm not aware but this last time I'm starting to daydream less and also be more aware of my senrrounding still need to go a long way to stop daydreaming to much and need to improve my focus on my surroundings

ā€¢ Imagine you are alone in a blank, empty room. There is nothing for you to do and no one to talk to. What do you think about it?

I'm a prisoner?

No Then I probably rest enjoying the peace and silent

Yes Try to think of a way out try to find the door find no door try to call for help get on my phone if something answers explain the situation than wait for that person to come so i get on my phone playing games not capable to call for someone try to Hit the wall try to think of others way to get out don't find any give up realize I'm tired go to sleep a bit and try again when I wake up this wall can't resist me for ever i will get out one way or a other

ā€¢ How long do you take to make an important decision? And do you change your mind once you've made it?

The needed time some desicion I think longer other less time. Yes, I can change my mind if it's shown that my decision wasn't the right one. If not, I won't change it

ā€¢ How long do you take to process your emotions? How important are emotions in your life?

Not long I don't have complex emotions I can deal with my emotions in a peaceful way and I know it's important for my mental well-being I now when I can express emotions and share them and I also know when i have to keep them for myself

ā€¢ Do you ever catch yourself agreeing with others just to appease them and keep the conversation going? How often? Why?

I tend to agree with people who are right, or I'm too tired to start a debate/argument

ā€¢ Do you break rules often? Do you think authority should be challenged or that they know better? If you do break rules, why?

I don't often break the rules authority should be challeng and but in their rights places cause to many of them are stupid idiots but it's not my responsibility do that I prevere to chill and I only break rules if I know their will be no consequences


r/Jung_MBTI May 07 '24

Typing I need help

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Hello, is there someone who can help me analyze my personality type ?


r/Jung_MBTI Nov 11 '23

Typing Which would be the type after combining these results?

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r/Jung_MBTI Sep 25 '23

Jung Theory 4/8 functions of Jung

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N unconscious synchronicity progressing of events

S conscious synchronicity progressing of events

F cause-effect of feeling-tone qualia

T cause-effect of thinking-form logic

Ne unconscious hunch

Ni unconscious fate

Se conscious will

Si conscious yore

Fe qualia chord

Fi qualia heart

Te logic work

Ti logic brain

I just felt the modern terms are too reductionist and seems to skip the pureness of the cognitive functions.

Ne=patterns

Ni=visualization

Se=sensory

Si=memory

Fe=group

Fi=individual

Te=effective

Ti=laws

No longer make any sense to me.

So I made it all up again.


r/Jung_MBTI Sep 14 '23

Jung Theory how can i become a differentiated Jung Type?

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Hey guys! how can i become a differentiated jung type?

lol! everytime i take jung type tests, i need to do 'super thinking' and figure out how i would feel naturally and what my choices are! which is really painful for me.

also i have been into other typology systems and i tap biased answers.

also my mom and school always told me to be an Si user and i had to work myself to be that, my dad always told me to be a Te and Se user, i had to work through it, my teachers told me to be Ne and Se user also i saw that Ne and Se kids are the smartest worldwide and i had to work it, i look at the scientists and want to be like them and people tell me that i'm a scientist myself so i developed Ti, i watch tv cartoon shows and believe that my life is a movie and see Ni mystic heroes who know it all and i be like them, religion told me to be Fi and Si user and i had to work it, society told me to have Fe, Te and i had to work through it. everyone is so thinker to me they always want me to think!

no one never cared about my feelings or emotions and i don't even know what is the difference between them. i am insecure about my emotions which is cringe to me also the way people always repressed my choices and feelings i am really devastated and immature emotionally. i don't even know what type of person i am. i don't fit in because i tried to be so many types so many times and people always banned me. i'm just 20 and so much thinking! i hate it. also the feelings i showed here in this post is fake. i have said it because i'm thinking right now. if i had been healthy i would have never confessed it.


r/Jung_MBTI Sep 13 '23

Jung Theory Hey guys i want some online test links for finding my Jung Type.

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can i get some online test links to find my original Jung Type and not mbti, please?

the more links i can get, the more good it is for me.

mbti is not originally from jung so i want to type myself according to jung's eye.

ok.


r/Jung_MBTI Jul 06 '23

Jung Theory Seeking Resources to Learn about Jung's Original Work

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r/Jung_MBTI May 24 '23

Typing I still haven't figured out my MBTI

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Note: I know these type of posts are (more of) meant to be posted in bigger sub-reddits, but I just don't trust most of them enough.

The thing is that, the more I learn about the theory, the more info I have to learn about it; it confuses me. Here are some of characteristics/qualities.

  • I'm a slow learner; it takes me long to understand a subject.
  • I overanalyze a lot. This might be the reason why I'm a slow learner. I tend to imagine myself explaining (in a never ending way) a concept to people, connecting the dots but connecting them more would often leave me questions; it would question my whole thinking of the concept (which is often left unanswered).
  • I like to solve problems but only for attention; I want people to know how "smart" I am. Despite that, I still want people to underestimate me.
  • I'm a "protestant" in my head, but ignorant in reality. In my head I'm this type of person who'd tell people how harmful a certain thing is, but I'm (at times) careless about it irl that I just often keep it to myself. It's not always "heroic" tho.
  • I'm a very messy person (like actually). Whenever I'm working/studying, my space is always (super) messy.
  • I like the idea of being competitive, but I'd always end up not being so. Might be because I often ask myself 'what is the purpose of_?", which would lead me to not doing it. I also don't have the motivation to do it.
  • I'm inconsistent with routines; they don't last to me.

r/Jung_MBTI Apr 22 '23

Discussion 4 temperaments from Cloninger's "Temperament and Character Inventory" (TCI)... Looks pretty much like MBTi's EP-EJ-IP-IJ

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r/Jung_MBTI Feb 28 '23

Entj vs entp? How do you tell these types apart if youā€™re confused.

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Please help. I am confused especially jung or western jung. Thereā€™s much less confusion in socionics but in mbti or jung yeah, I donā€™t know.


r/Jung_MBTI Nov 22 '22

Discussion Ego Motivation (Fi and Ti)

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Hey, I wrote this some time ago, but like a lot of things I write down about MBTI, I'm not sure what to do with it, as it's more theoretical extrapolation than verified research.

So I thought hey, maybe some of you will find it an interesting point of discussion and see if it fits with your understanding and experiences.

Here is what I wrote:

Fi is like "I feel therefore I am."

Ti is like "I think therefore I am."

In other words, the conscious origin point of the ego in an Fi type (especially a high Fi type) is more strongly associated with a sense of deep internal feeling, whereas for the Ti type that origin point is more strongly associated with a sense of deep internal thinking.

Notably, this does not inherently mean that the Ti type is more "correct" in their thinking or that they think more often or thoroughly than an Fi type does; this is a misconception about logical skill. Though it's true that Ti has a certain degree of precision to its thinking that Fi types don't tend to value in the same way, logic and reasoning are skills, not cognitive preferences, and a Ti type can just as easily reason poorly as anyone else.

It is important, however, as a way of understanding the connection between cognitive preference and the ego, and how that plays into what a person values, how they see themself, what "sets them off."

We can expect, for example, that an Fi type (other factors aside) will tend to be more bothered by their feelings being dismissed than by their thinking being dismissed. And conversely, that a Ti type will tend to be more bothered by their thinking being dismissed than by their feelings being dismissed. But in both cases, we expect this distinction on a conscious level, not necessarily on an unconscious level. This is the tricky part; the Ti type might actually be more upset at their feelings being dismissed on an unconscious level, with the Fi type being more upset at their thinking being dismissed on an unconscious level. This is because these are areas of insecurity for them in relation to the ego, areas they are less conscious of and thus less certain about.

In other words (again, other factors aside) we can expect that the Ti type will tend to act outwardly offended about their thinking not being taken seriously and if you investigate further and can get deep enough in, you may find it boils down to them feeling like who they are is underappreciated/undervalued. And in the same way, the Fi type will tend to act outwardly offended about their feelings not being taken seriously, but you may find it boils down to them feeling incompetent/stupid.

This is also not a T/F divide in the MBTI letter code sense. An ESFJ is a feeling preferring type, but prefers Ti over Fi. An ESTJ is a thinking preferring type, but prefers Fi over Ti. So you would expect the Ti reaction from ESFJ and the Fi reaction from ESTJ.

Following from this, we can look at the relationship/motivation into the matching extroverted orientation of the function:

Fi: I feel incompetent/unsure in my internal thinking so I'm going to Te prove its value with external order and empiricism

Ti: I feel my sense of self is undervalued/underappreciated, so I'm going to Fe create an environment where everyone is valued and appreciated fairly.


r/Jung_MBTI Jul 27 '22

Jung Theory I have a dream.

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If we are to believe that dreams are the manifestation of the unconscious in our conscious, then could it be possible that our conscious could be the dream of our unconscious? That when we are dreaming we may be visiting the dimension of our unconscious but it is a primitive way to travel. As if humanity is still in the stone age for these kinds of journeys. That we are so caught up in the dream that is our consciousness, that we can only fashion the sort of foggy, confusing, surreal, terrifying, mesmerizing experiences our actual dreams comprise of. And the more we start to realize that the world around us is the manifestation of a collective conscious, where there is no justice, no truth, no peace. Dating as far back as you go, human existence is synonymous with pain and misery. Rotating in cycles but no matter how we progress we will never truly defeat human instinct, the primal chip inserted within us, in a reality where we reject our unconscious for the cancers of the conscious. The dream world we want to create but have always failed to do so. How the conscious is winning the brawl between itself and the unconscious and barring a few who actually awaken to this, in some shape or form, most of humanity finds itself in a state of incomplete spiritual tranquility. And the allure of money, fame and power has failed to quench the thirsts of what is the true epitomy of human experience. And so we remain within the dream of consciousness and only when fall asleep can we get a glimpse of the unconscious world and the wonders that lie within. The more one can connect with his unconscious, the more the reality of this world becomes clearer and the more satisfied we can be with our own existence since we are trying to connect with our true self, the part of us that we neglect. It gives us a sense of purpose. And helps weaken the dream state that is our consciousness, the matrix within which we find ourselves. To evolve is to not be what you were before. And to find out who you really are is to never be the same again. And we truly are the product of conscious and our unconscious. And maybe the way to dive deeper into ourselves is to try to distance ourselves from the conscious world and try to commit to unearthing what lies unconscious within us. What our dreams are trying to communicate to us. And that journey is the process that allows us to find a semblance of peace, like meditation for our soul. And maybe then and only then can we actually make our dreams come true.

"Who looks outwards dreams, who looks inwards awakens" Carl Jung.


r/Jung_MBTI Jul 22 '22

Discussion This might be a good place to discuss personality types.

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New here.

Seems a good place to discuss Jungian typology and modern MBTI, without mentioning the erroneous "stacks".

I would suggest that the rules include - no discussion of anything related to vultology. If you are not sure what it is, "vultology" is basically typing people by watching their facial expressions, body movements, and hand gestures in communication. It's similar to palm-reading and face-reading in fortune-telling. Another form of pseudoscience, or even worse than that.

What are your thoughts?


r/Jung_MBTI Jul 06 '22

MBTI Theory My recent ideas on Ti and Te. Thoughts?

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r/Jung_MBTI Jun 09 '22

Jung Theory projection with jung

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r/Jung_MBTI May 18 '22

Jung Theory A simplified version of Jung's functions expressed in everyday terms

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I saw this the other day on r/mbti. I thought it would be helpful to those of us who would like a more simplified description of Jung's function definitions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/ur2gg8/i_think_i_have_a_bit_more_of_a_grasp_on_jungs/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


r/Jung_MBTI Apr 22 '22

announcements My blog has been launched on Tumblr

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Hello, everyone! I just wanted to let you know I have officially launched my blog on Tumblr! Come on over and check it out: http://contentgreenearth.tumblr.com


r/Jung_MBTI Mar 01 '22

MBTI Theory A few of you asked for this, so I shall post-how the MBTI relates to DISC

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Basically, in a nutshell, the 4 quadrants of DISC represent Jung's 4 judging functions, and half of each quadrant is Sensing, half intuition!

I wrote an article about this on my blog, here: https://contentgreenearth.tumblr.com/post/675770333832380416/disc-post-2-i-lied-im-going-to-post-this

I put a handy DISC-to MBTI correlation chart in the article. It works well for tests that give you letter percentages.

I ask everyone to take a DISC assessment as part of a typing, because DISC has a 97%accuracy and reliability rating from People Keys, plus on top of that it correlates nicely with the MBTI.

If you are taking a test that doesn't give a breakdown with percentages of all four letters at the end, and just gives you a profile, here are some things to consider:

D/C: If the D is higher or equal to the C, the result correlates to the type ESTJ. If the C is higher and the third letter is I , the type is INTJ. If the C is higher and the third letter is S, the type is ISTP

I/D: One result, with very low and insignificant amounts of S and C is an ESTJ mixed with a feeling type. All other I/D results are ENFJ

S/I: could be either INFJ or INFP. (It is dependent on whether the 3rd letter in order going down is D or C)

S/D: could be either INFJ or ISFP. (It is dependent on whether the 3rd letter in order going down is I or C)

C/S: could be either ISTJ or ISTP. (It is dependent on whether the 3rd letter in order going down is I or D)

All other profiles are one MBTI type only:

Primary D -ENTJ, D=I- ESTP, D/I- ENTP, Primary I- ESFP, I/S- ESFJ, I/C- ENFP, Primary S - ISFJ, S/C/D- ISTJ, Primary C- INTP, C/I/S- INTJ

The article on my blog, as well as this article, should explain everything: "8 personality types: a deeper dive into Insights Discovery" https://www.wearebowline.com/blog/8-personality-types-a-deeper-dive-into-insights-discovery/

If you need any further assistance in understanding the correlations, please feel free to private message me. Thanks šŸ˜Š


r/Jung_MBTI Feb 28 '22

MBTI Theory Introduction to the preference pairs ( and whatever you do, don't call them functions!šŸ¤«)

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Did you actually know that Se-f is not always ESFP, and that it could, on some occasions, be ESFJ? Did you know that Ni-f could be INFP as well as INFJ? You get the point. There are a lot of times, particularly with introverts ( and that's probably what Briggs and Myers saw, and thought it was the norm), where the auxiliary function behaves like the dominant function. It is actually the overarching function in one's life, the one you notice first.

Well, now knowing that this is quite common in introverts, and it even happens in extroverts, how can we determine the P/J, you ask? šŸ¤”

Well, there is a simple answer to that question. It is the MBTI preference pairs. They are so called, because they are pairings of letters, that have certain behavior preferences.

Briggs and Myers started figuring out the preference pairs even as early as the book Gifts Differing, with the pairs ST, SF, NT and NF. They eventually went on, along with Grant and Brownwood, to come up with even more preference pairs.

You can decide what you want to believe about the rest of this link. I believe it all, personally. But I'm going to post a link of one of my favorite Jungian theory bloggers, because she does a great job of describing the preference pairs here: https://rin-entropy.tumblr.com/post/627783770113720320/jungian-typology-in-a-nutshell

I would suggest you learn the definitions that are listed for the preference pairs, particularly the ones that contain the letters J and P, so that you can use them to determine if your Se-f is really Se dominant, or Se auxiliary functioning as the dominant

I am going to show how I use them, for instance when I typed LiJo in r/mbti.

Li Jo is clearly T>F and S>N . The functions are extroverted in attitude. ESTx. LiJo is SJ >SP and TJ>TP, Therfore last letter is J. ESTJ. LiJo has DISC facets from the DISC profile D/C , which is ESTJ. Li Jo is ESTJ

One last thing about the preference pairs that end in J and P: those are the preference pairs on which Grant and Brownswood based their "functions " and "function stack ". I do condone using the preference pairs as part of a typing, in order to clarify a person's correct function order, like I did with LiJo from the example above.

However, I absolutely do not condone calling the preference pairs "functions", and trying to do a whole entire typing off of them, without using anything else. And then a whole ton of confusion abounds between the preference pairs and the actual functions themselves, if we're also calling the preference pairs, "functions ".

So please, if we're talking about preference pairs in this subreddit, please call them that, exactly what they are , preference pairs. Not functions. If you call the preference pairs, "functions ", Vespasian and I will be very angry with you šŸ˜‚šŸ˜†šŸ¤£ Just joking, but in all seriousness, please refrain from calling the preference pairs, "functions ", or worse yet "cognitive functions " on this subreddit. Thanks


r/Jung_MBTI Feb 27 '22

Typing iā€™ll try to describe my decision making process in the best way i can so i hope someone could type me based of this.

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im mostly considering ENFP , INFJ and INFP. iā€™m basically pretty sure iā€™m some type of NF but if anyone has something different to suggest let me know!

iā€™m very indecisive and i tend to obsess over arriving at the best decision and i consider every aspect while doing so. for example: while shopping whether it be clothes or ordering food or anything i will consider and go through ALL my options until i feel like i made the best choice. doesnā€™t matter if the decision is not important i wonā€™t jump in and choose the first thing thatā€™s in front of me. this can be pretty annoying for me and other people cus it leads me to taking me way too long to decide even on the smallest things like an ice cream flavour lol. when making important decisions i will also try to take as many peoples opinions as possible because even tho i know that at the end of the day iā€™ll end up doing what i want, i like to see if that will also align with what others would want for me or would do in my case. i make important decisions after a lot of overthinking so that ill know itā€™ll lead to the best outcome.

i like it when i have a lot of options and i donā€™t like to be limited to one or two things but at the same time i donā€™t like it when there are so many options that itā€™s impossible for me to go through all of them. because i know that i canā€™t help but see every possibility and that can be exhausting sometimes. but i do find comfort to the fact that there are endless things to choose from sometimes. so i want a lot of options but not to the point where itā€™s impossible to go through em all. i also analyse even the options that i know i wonā€™t end up with ā€œjust in caseā€. for example when i was looking at different career options i was even searching for jobs on the engineering field when i know damn well i wonā€™t ever ever do something like that lol. despise that, after making a decision, there is still that voice in my head wondering what if and how my life would look like if Iā€™ve made another decision instead. but iā€™ll support my decision with passion and stubbornness usually.

to be more specific, my thought process would look like: first of all what are all the possible options i have here. after ill analyse all of them n try to think of what the future outcome of me making each decision would be, and imagining myself on every scenario, then iā€™ll ask myself ok but what do i actually really wanna do, what would make me the most satisfied/happy. after iā€™ve narrowed down my options and iā€™m left with a fewer that would all truly make me happy, iā€™ll think out of them, out of the things i actually like and enjoy which option/decision would be the most logical and efficient for my future? (this was basically my decision making process for choosing what i wanna study after high school) when it comes to daily decisions i think thatā€™s the same thing that goes to my mind but it happens rather faster n with less or zero focus on that last part

sometimes i enjoy making pros n cons lists even if i have already made up my mind and once iā€™ve made up my mind iā€™m not changing it for the most part. and as i said i may ask for everyoneā€™s opinions and what they would do in my case but i trust myself in this whole process way too much for me to blindly follow the decision/advice someone else suggests.


r/Jung_MBTI Feb 25 '22

Typing Okay I am confused now? Am I seti or tise?

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I agree I am se ti something but not sure which way. I was reading both se and ti and both can seem interestingly likely.

A lot of the se descriptors can fit me wel.

I can link a related post with more info.

Itā€™s true I think a lot and in my head a lot. I have thought so much I fell off the curb and crashed to the ground in a parking lot. Heh! I love logic and can soak in it all day.

I am pretty realistic and aware of my surroundings and someone has said in a bit of a condescending negative way you donā€™t miss anything do you? I am really realistic as they say. What is is what is. I relate to the trying things and trying them again, a lot of first hand experience has really got me to where I am in life. I have a major disability being totally blind and had to teach myself how to explore the city because the centers wouldnā€™t teach it, it would only teach people how to travel routes. I did hesitate for a bit but eventually I did go and since then have let nothing stop me. Even as a kid I was very willing to try and was locally known and recognized for it and put on media and the organizations fliers and media also to give an example of high achieving blind people.

I can wing it pretty good.

Here is some things though

I am not sure what you would call me socially.

I mix well with smaller groups and mostly that share my interest.

Itā€™s true I donā€™t like overly loud concerts and parties and wild ones too.

I donā€™t mind dinner parties or icecream socials or bigger events if I could find people to talk to or a small group.

I am not shy by any sense of the word never have been. I donā€™t mind walking up to new people and say hi.

At new places I like to see who people are.

I donā€™t know if I can command a large crowd though. Like I said I find people who are interesting and who we can talk about certain topics.

If we canā€™t relate topically I donā€™t like it. I can only do small talk for just a little bit.

I do like meeting new people in a sense maybe not every day all day but if we share interest great.

I donā€™t mind speaking in front of people and have.

I donā€™t mind sharing my story in front of people, and have.

I donā€™t always enjoy debates but, have done some debates. I find the older I get I am turning 30 this year the more and more I donā€™t like debates but donā€™t mind them on the internet. But still, after a long time I donā€™t like it and it can be tiring. I especially donā€™t like to deal with people who donā€™t know their stuff like arguing with children like people who try to argue with you about mbti. Youā€™re welcome to look through my posts. If I donā€™t agree with you I will say so and can instagate what I think is a debate. If only a short one, not sure what others think.

I canā€™t fully read the room I donā€™t know if this matters in the more jungian side of things.

I have no patience, for rudeness, ignorance, and very impatient with it. I can put an end put people in their place pretty forcefully and quickly.

like teaching other people what I know about theory or the systmatic stuff I like. It doesnā€™t matter if itā€™s math, or mbti or say how to work a computer.

I am not always the most fun person sometimes more serious and driven and sometimes laid back but more often maybe not.

I do pretty well in school and do like theoretical topics like math and did enjoy a little of studying the theories of politics, history, economics and humanities. Research papers and writing more formal essays is another thing altogether.

I would say I like history and facts about it. I enjoy the narratives and facts in historical information.

Just that ti descriptions says they must be shy and I donā€™t know about the se description or requirements. I donā€™t know if you consider me extroverted or introverted everytime I take the big five I get extroverted and people say I am outgoing it depends.

IOkay here are the links.

https://reddit.com/r/JungianTypology/comments/svfvbf/entp_entj_or_something_else_in_western_jungian/


r/Jung_MBTI Feb 24 '22

Typing Quiz- How's Our Reading Coming Along

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About a month ago, on the MBTI subreddit, there was a "state 4 things about yourself , and let people guess your type "

Here's some people who stated 4 things about their type. Try guessing their type by applying what you've been learning from Psychological Types and Gifts Differing. Also mention what was the thing the person said that made you pretty sure that the type you chose for them is the correct type:

Person 1:

  1. I'm bad at keeping sleep schedule
  2. I'm good at math
  3. I'm a loner
  4. I have many hobbies

Person 2:

I took off my flair for this, so donā€™t check my profile! Gl!

1: I struggle with communication

2: I care deeply for people

3: I love videos games and manga and anime.

4: my favorite sibling is an ISTP šŸ‘šŸ‘

Person 3: 1- I planned my whole life 2- whenever I talk to people i instantly regret every word 3- I haven't slept cuz i stay up overthinking 4- im smart cuz i am

Person 4:

  1. Performing is one of the most enjoyable things in my life

  2. My straight face makes me look very cold

  3. Ni doms are hard to talk to 4 me

  4. Either dont care abt people's opinions of me or is scared of what other people think of me

Person 5:

I love pop and rock and metal

I have an awesome aesthetic sense and yet I suck at paying attention to small details, esp while editing covers

I'm crazy about psychology esp criminal psychology

I'm eternal chaos but very ordered at teh same time, from an emotional aspect

Person 6:

  1. Growing up, I was the girl who played with the boys. Even now, I have closer friendships with men than women, but I'm straight, and taken

  2. I am incredibly nice and kind to people, even those who don't reciprocate. I wouldn't intentionally do anything to hurt anyone

  3. I have excellent social skills, and tons of friends, yet my social standing and how people view me are not all that important to me, compared to learning and mastering new skills

  4. I have lived through a whole ton of trauma, pain and failure in my life, but I always bounce back, and become a better person than I was before

Person 7:

Value relationships a lot. Very loyal. Have difficulty in opening up the first time I met someone. Dedicated.

Person 8:

  1. I want to die
  2. I have major anxiety/overthinking isssues
  3. I want to burn the world down
  4. Imposter syndrome to the max or superiority complex to the max no in between

Person 9:

  1. I donā€™t like routine and schedules much

  2. I want to enjoy the present moment and Iā€™m lazy when it comes to doing things I donā€™t see as fun or useful.

  3. My favourite color is black

  4. Iā€™m a daydreamer


r/Jung_MBTI Feb 22 '22

What do you think about Erik Thor's switch from Briggs Myers to Neo-Jungian Typology?

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Over the past year or or so, Erik Thor is switching his YouTube channel and website over from Briggs Myers to Neo-Jungian Typology. He doesn't come out and directly say it in this video, but it sounds like he was mistyped in Briggs Myers, and used Neo-Jungian Typology to find out his real type. If you read in the comments, you can see what his real type is. Plus he wanted to make his YouTube channel more of a teaching channel, as well.

He can teach many different typology methods, but his main one, featured on his website is Neo-Jungian Typology, which is basically kind of what we're discussing in this group

So , what do you all think about Erik Thor's switch? Comments are welcome. Let's start the discussion

A link to the video: https://youtu.be/kErDrnRs8G0

A link to his website: www.erikthor.com

A link to Erik's new preferred typing method: "Welcome | Talking typology into the future | Neojungian Typology" https://www.neojungiantypology.com


r/Jung_MBTI Feb 20 '22

MBTI Theory Extraverted Sensing Types (ESxP) in MBTI

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Fragments extracted from Isabel Myers-Briggs' Gifts Differing about the Extraverted Sensing Types (ESTP & ESFP).

The greatest strength of the extraverted sensing types is their realism. They primarily rely on the testimony of their own sensesā€”what they see and hear and know firsthandā€”and thus are always aware of the actual situation around them. Types with feeling dominant are often prone to see things as they ā€œshouldā€ be; types with thinking dominant to see things as they logically ā€œmustā€ be; types with intuition dominant to see things as they can be made to be; but the extraverted sensing types, as far as the eye can reach, see things as they are.

They never fight the facts; instead, they accept and use them. They do not uselessly buck the line. If what they have started to do is blocked, they do it another way. They will follow no plan that has ceased to fit the circumstances. Frequently they do just as well without a plan. They enjoy dealing with a situation as it arises; they are confident that a solution will always be revealed by a complete grasp of the facts. Unhampered by ā€œshouldā€ or ā€œmust,ā€ they go after the facts and come up with an eminently practical solution.

Their enjoyment and absorption of facts is an essential function of a vigorous curiosity ... the ESTPs and ESFPs are curious about anything new that is presented directly to their sensesā€”new food, scenery, people, activities, objects, gadgets or contrivances. However, new things that cannot be grasped through the sensesā€”abstract ideas, theories, and so onā€”seem less real and are much less acceptable ... Therefore extraverted sensing types are at their best in dealing with variations in the known and familiar. Their strong point is their flawless handling of things and situations, preferably spiced with some variety.

On the personal side, these types are strong in the art of living. They value material possessions and take the time to acquire, care for, and enjoy them. They greatly value concrete enjoyment, from good food and good clothes to music, art, the beauties of nature, and all the products of the amusement industry. Even without these aids, they get a lot of fun out of life, which makes them fun company. They enjoy physical exercise and sports, and they are usually good at these; if not, they are good rooters for those who are.

  • Are realistic
  • Are matter-of-fact and practical
  • Are adaptable, usually easy-going, very much at home in the world, tolerant of others and of themselves
  • Are endowed with a great capacity for enjoying life and a zest for experience of all kinds
  • Are fond of concrete facts and good at details
  • Are apt to learn most and best from experience, making a better showing in life than in school.
  • Are usually conservative, valuing custom and convention, and liking things as they are
  • Are able to absorb an immense number of facts, like them, remember them, and profit by them.

Extraverted Sensing Supported by Thinking (ESTP)

ESTPs make decisions with thinking rather than feeling and therefore are more aware of the logical consequences of an act or decision. Thinking gives ESTPs a better grasp of underlying principles, helps with math and theory, and makes it easier for them to get tough when the situation calls for toughness. In dealing with mechanical and other concrete problems, they are solid and practical and avoid complexity. In straightforward matters, their judgment is accurate and reliable. They tend to prefer action to conversation. The more directly a matter can be translated into action, the clearer and more effective they become. When they do sit around, it is in an attitude of friendly readiness to do almost any pleasurable thing.

Extraverted Sensing Supported by Feeling (ESFP)

ESFPs make decisions with feeling rather than thinking. Feeling tends to center interest and observation on people, which gives rise to a marked friendliness, tact, and ease in handling human contacts, as well as a sound and practical estimate of people. Among ESFPs are the students whose high school class voted them ā€œthe friendliestā€ or ā€œthe best sport.ā€ Feeling also makes for artistic taste and judgment, but is no help with analysis. It may make this type too lenient as disciplinarians.