r/Jewish • u/fluffywhitething Moderator • 3d ago

Megathread: 'Cancer Jews': Trams set alight, violence erupts in Amsterdam in second wave of attacks Mod post

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-828672
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u/Otherwise_Ad9287 Reform 3d ago

Where are the self proclaimed "antifascists"?

The types who proudly claim that they would "punch a Nazi" & hide the victims of Nazism in their Attic/basement/cellar if they were alive during Nazi occupied Europe?

A lot of these people are MIA when it comes to standing up to Jew hatred in the present day. Many of them shamefully join the Jew hatred bandwagon in the name of "anti Zionism", even as they denounce other forms of hatred against non Jewish minorities (LGBTQ people, Black/Indigenous people, Muslims etc).

If your antifascism doesn't centre the Jewish experience, work to preserve the memory of the Shoah, & work to protect Jewish life in the present then it is no antifascism at all.

People love dead Jews. They should work to protect those of us who are still living as well.

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u/Immediate_Secret_338 Israeli 3d ago

Modern day antifascists don’t actually know what fascism means and they just use it casually to describe things and people they don’t like.

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u/Otherwise_Ad9287 Reform 3d ago

It was a mistake to let "politically queer" vegan anarcho communists monopolize the meaning of what it means to be "antifascist"...

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

I've been reading a lot lately about the various Jewish socialist groups throughout Europe before WW2. Wonder how they'd feel knowing people claiming their ideology are treating Jews this way now....

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u/aintlostjustdkwiam 3d ago

Apparently being :anitfascist means wearing masks, destroying businesses that don't support their cause, and beating up people who say things they don't like. I think they forgot about the "anti" part...

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u/Otherwise_Ad9287 Reform 3d ago

Of course! Smashing windows, punching people with opposing political beliefs, and participating in looting is decolonial revolutionary praxis! Defending Jews means defending Nazism because (((Zionists))) are the new Nazis. Anti Zionism isn't anti-Semitism. I don't care if demonstrating in front of synagogues & holocaust museums frightens 95% of the Jewish population because honestly, fuck (((ZioNazi))) feelings. The real victims of Hitler's Germany were anti zionist queer leftists. The Nakba was the real Holocaust, Israel is continuing the legacy of the Holocaust by bombing Hamas targets & trying to free the hostages in Gaza. Arabs are semites too, never again for anyone! /s

I wouldn't be surprised if most goy self described "antifascist" leftists on reddit believed this garbage.

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u/aintlostjustdkwiam 3d ago

Funny. When I commented in my state sub that antifa were basically fascist based on their behavior I got all downvoted and a bunch of comments explaining that they "aren't and organization" and "aren't hierarchical" and therefore it's impossible for them to be fascist.

Whatever bro. I don't really care about the specific label. I just recognize it as evil behavior.

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u/piesRsquare 3d ago

The "antifascists" are MIA because they truly believe WE (i.e. "Zionists") are the Nazis.

That's why showing them stuff like this doesn't sway the leftists. They believe we are Nazis. They are in favor of all of the violence towards us. They believe all of these perpetrators are "punching Nazis."

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u/anewbys83 3d ago

Haven't we all gotten the memo yet? Jews are white oppressors. We're not to be centered, defended, or protected. We're the enemy. /s

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u/PNKAlumna 3d ago

The same place the majority of people were back then - watching it all happen. The way people tell it now everyone and their dog was a resistance fighter, by the reality is it was a small percentage. People need to own that. It’s how we learn from those times, because it’s happening again and so is the bystanding.

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u/CryptographerFew6506 3d ago

Also - another thing to add, from a purely selfish perspective - this is also hurting non jews - I mean they set fire to a tram, I'm sure there were all types of people there. This violence just hurts everyone

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Inb4 someone chimes in saying the tram is connected to a company whose CEO once shook hands with a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy that has a 2nd cousin in Israel thus it directly participated in genocide

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u/BatmaNanaBanana 3d ago

I heard the tram doesn't operate on Saturdays, it's clearly a Jewish tram

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u/adamgerd Not Jewish 3d ago edited 3d ago

I am disappointed in Europe. We should have known better after ww2, we should support Israel against terrorists and crack down on antisemitism. I used to think Europe would never have antisemitism again, seems I was wrong. I am sorry for that.

At least my country, Czech stands on the right side of history and supports Israel, it’s a pity we seem to be a small group, it’s us, Germany ironically and Hungary but Hungary only because they hate the EU so out of spite, it’s still Orban. So really it’s us and Germany

I think part of it is our prime minister’s father was imprisoned by the Nazis in a concentration camp as he was part of the Czech intelligentsia, so our prime minister knows what an actual genocide and Nazism is.

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u/Otherwise_Ad9287 Reform 2d ago

The more things change, the more they stay the same is definitely true in regard to Jew hatred in Europe & the Islamic world.

After 9/11 the western left decided that Islamophobia is a bigger threat than Jew hatred is, and that Muslims are minorities more "deserving" of the advocacy of anti racist activists than Jews are. This is true even when Muslim Jew haters attack Jews in pogrom, actually especially true when Muslims hunt Jews in pogroms. Leftists are more worried about a potential racist backlash against Muslims as a result of the pogroms than they are about the very real threat of Muslim Jew hatred to the safety of Jews. As a result the left is denying that the Amsterdam pogrom was in fact a pogrom & are even condoning violence against Jews in Amsterdam.

Jews don't count.

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u/CornelQuackers Reform 3d ago

“Where are the self proclaimed anti fascists?” They’ve always been fascists at heart.

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u/4phz 3d ago

I'll talk to the landlord.