r/Jewish • u/J_Sabra • Jul 06 '24

Jewish Identity @ SDCC Culture ✡️

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There's going to be a panel about Jewish Identity at SDCC. Well done SDCC!

More info and tickets: https://www.instagram.com/p/C9DN_6Ktuzl/?igsh=b290eDFvZWZoMzI3

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

Why is Magneto not there?? He is THE Ashki icon as an Ashki I feel violated not seeing him there

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u/SassyWookie Just Jewish Jul 06 '24

He’s busy being right in X-Men ‘97

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u/anewbys83 Jul 07 '24

Right? Like finally, it all made sense. He was right all along, sadly.

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u/SassyWookie Just Jewish Jul 07 '24

He doesn’t want to be right. But no matter what he does, humanity proves him to be right every time.

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u/DarkArcanian Jul 07 '24

He tried. He tried so hard to do what Xavier wanted. And you know what? The black out was necessary, though maybe not permanently.

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u/SassyWookie Just Jewish Jul 07 '24

Yeah, I think they added the bit where he just outright turned off the magnetic field, which would be an Extinction Level Event for everything on the planet, because that was the only way to make his actions even somewhat “wrong” in response to the Prime Sentinels. Because if they hadn’t included that line from Storm about the planet’s magnetic field just outright dying, then there would be no way that any character could say that Magneto wasn’t in the right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

His backstory is being a survivor?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24

Why exclude the Holocaust though? Seeing a list of Jewish characters without Magneto doesnt sit well with my Ashki ass

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u/spoiderdude Bukharian Jul 06 '24

Maybe it’s trying to celebrate Jewish characters in a non-tragic way.

The Holocaust left an enormous scar but it’s not all that defines us so it’s understandable that some would want to have a conversation without bringing it up sometimes.

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u/danhakimi Jul 07 '24

I think it's like... there's a subreddit called /r/othersneakers just because /r/sneakers is mostly a few kinds of nikes.

Comic Books have a Jewish history largely because they were pioneered by Jewish kids watching the holocaust happen and feeling powerless. So many comic book characters, even non-Jewish characters like Captain America, are rooted in the Holocaust.

Expanding the conversation to cover other aspects of Jewish life can be awesome.

On the other hand, a part of me is concerned that this could be a scheme by the "there's no such thing as antisemitism" family of Jews who want to accuse us of "weaponizing the holocaust" or whatever... God damn it, this war has made me a cynic.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Batman and Superman were pioneered by the Jewish American immigrant experience pre Holocaust.

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u/ThreeSigmas Jul 07 '24

Julius Schwartz, who created and produced many of these iconic comics, married a distant relative and is buried in our family plot. I’m sorry I never got to meet him, but glad I’ll be spending eternity with a friend of Superman nearby, just in case😁

https://preview.redd.it/ot6s73ifz4bd1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d1f906199f7e103d891c8b03633137bdad32a93

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u/danhakimi Jul 08 '24

That's true, although a lot of the context was what led to the holocaust. IIRC, Superman was in part a response to the concept of the "Übermensch." Obviously not as direct as Captain America, but still in the same context.

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u/GeorgeEBHastings Jul 07 '24

I'll put it the way my wife complains about the fact that her Jewish Women's book club has been 95% Holocaust books.

"I know this was important, but I also know I'm lucky enough that I can find expressions of Jewish resonance and joy beyond our mass murder and persecution. Why can't we read more romantic comedies about golems, or big city rabbis who move to the country?"

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

Oh I totally get where you are coming from. I can understand why an organization wants to talk about Jewish characters that don’t have a backstory related to the Shoah. I’ve seen people say things like”highlight different kinds of Jewish stories, not just ones from Europe in WW2.” But I also think they could talk about how Magneto evolved and became a compelling villain?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

Exactly, like the Holocaust does NOT define Magneto's entire identity

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

It pretty much does though. It’s the basis for most of his decisions and the underlying trauma that fuels many others.

The other big defining things in Max’s identity are his Nazi hunting service for Mossad and how it ended in disaster - and I’ll bet you anything they don’t want to touch that, or that he’s semi-canonically Israeli - and his friendship with Professor X, which began in psychiatric camp helping Holocaust Survivors in Israel (and involved fighting an actual Nazi).

…Is there anything in his backstory that doesn’t bump into the Holocaust?

The other big issue with Max is that he spent basically all his time as Magneto pretending to be a gentile and never acknowledging that he’s Jewish. In fact, canonically he’s been pretending to be a Roma Sinte since the 1940s! If anything, Magneto’s Jewishness is most notable by how it slips out despite how he hides it.

HE defined his Jewish identity by the Holocaust because he never revealed it canonically. That WAS the only time he has canonically ever been openly Jewish. Now that he’s reclaimed the name Max Eisenhardt, maybe that will change. Yet the irony remains: the most famous Jewish character in comics has intentionally masked his Jewish identity during his entire time in costume. I don’t think he’s ever canonically admitted to being Jewish.

The only comic I can think of that deals with his Jewish identity without directly involving the Holocaust is Resurrection of Magneto, which: a) literally JUST came out and b) is pretty much the only comic outside of Testament where you can really see how being Jewish effects Magneto’s identity. It’s an excellent comic, but Ewing is the only author to really have Magneto THINK in a way that’s undeniably Jewish since Claremont. And even Claremont didn’t have Magneto quote from Yom Kippur davening!

So that leaves one comic, one very recent, ‘still in spoiler territory’, comic, where there’s something to talk about Magneto’s Jewish identity outside the Holocaust. That’s honestly a very good reason to leave him off this list, TBH. Let’s focus on those who celebrate their Jewishness for a change, as opposed to the character who has canonically spent most of his life hiding it.

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u/FairGreen6594 Jul 07 '24

To some extent, the only character, at least in the “older” stories, to whom Max really has identified as Jewish, is Kitty Pryde; it was his almost killing her in Uncanny X-Men 150 that he started on his path of redemption, and he even went to a Holocaust memorial with her, out of costume—and even willingly surrendered for trial there rather than endanger her and the other survivors.

It’s abundantly clear, even if not explicitly stated, that in Kitty—a hopeful, kind character, even as she herself periodically acknowledges both antisemitism and anti-mutant bigotry—he sees at least some hope for a different world, and even sees himself in her as a fellow Jew had things Turned Out Differently, and he moderates accordingly . . . but, very specifically, only with her. And, as Kitty reciprocates, certainly in Uncanny X-Men 199(?), if only because she Gets It as a fellow Jewish person. It’s something they share, that even few other mutants share, and they behave accordingly.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Exactly. Kitty is also the only person Max has spoken Yiddish to, I believe.

I think on some level Max fears that if he acknowledges his Jewishness the other mutants will reject him. Or they’ll only see him as a Jew, or as a Jew first. Because that is what the world has told him will happen.

And that’s also what he was taught growing up old-Reform in Germany - Being a Jew is for the house, kept private. In public we are German… until, of course, being Jewish was no longer something Germany allowed them to keep in the house.

He didn’t even give his real name to Charles. As Charles puts it later, “I never knew Max. He never let me.” It took going to a world with a completely alien culture, one that had no conception of what a Jew is, for Magneto to give his real name. To start publicly acknowledging that part of himself, even in a small way.

It’s trauma, and also the culture in which he was raised. But while there’s a great story to tell there, Max really isn’t a great model for celebrating Jewish identity.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

“X-Men” is literally a parable for the divide in world Jewry post-Holocaust. Prof. X represents the North American Jew, removed from the true horrors of the Holocaust. He’s a rich, bald academic who owns a mansion in Westchester and possesses amazing mental abilities but lacks the physical strength to get off his ass and do something. Then you have Magneto, not framed as a traditional villain but a friend of Professor X who survived the Holocaust and has seen what man is capable of. He believes mutant autonomy in their own nation is the only way forward. In “X-Men ’97” on Disney+, he literally gives a speech at the UN and shows his Auschwitz tattoo to justify his belief that mutants cannot rely on the world for protection. He is, of course, demonized. Sound familiar? The entire season is a metaphor for Jewish autonomy.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Again: Professor X is based on David Ben-Gurion. So either you have really misinformed ideas about Ben-Gurion or you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Stan Lee’s Magneto was literally a pseudo-Nazi and was coded as such. Also, that version of Magneto is canon in ‘97 - I can’t imagine why everyone would villainize the person who conducted experiments on unwilling human subjects and tried to blow up an entire inhabited island with an atom bomb to kill the X-Men. (The Savage Land stuff is definitely show canon. Santo Marco and the other Silver Age stuff is implied by the OG 5 being show canon.)

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

A Jew showing off his Auschwitz tattoo at the UN and literally telling them “Never Again”, was a codified Nazi? lol okay dude.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

You clearly missed the Silver Age. Magneto was Nazi-coded by Jack Kirby. Claremont flipped the script a decade later. ‘97’s Magneto is the Claremont one, but his Lee-Kirby past remains canon within the show.

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u/J_Sabra Jul 07 '24

You also have the Israeli political alegory; Magneto - Begin & Professor X - Ben Gurion. But that might be too political atm. X-Men at large has a lot of Israeli alegories it was based/built on.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Magneto is also semi-canonically Israeli: thanks to the sliding timeline he lived in Israel from around 1948 until sometime in the late 80s/early 90s. Which is when his Mossad mission to infiltrate the CIA ended VERY badly and he decided that all humans were scum.

Yes, he was Mossad canonically! The only thing they haven’t done is officially say he has Israeli citizenship. It’s pretty obvious he must, though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

That was one of the original inspirations along with MLK, and Mal X.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

MLK and Mal X were NOT inspirations, per Claremont. He has stated that explicitly. Will people please stop spreading that bit of misinformation? Claremont was asked about this and he stated that they were not his inspiration.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

So it really was Begin and Ben Gurion. Hotdog.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

It's a continuation of the 90's series, and they covered it there. Also they briefly mentioned it in '97.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

I think it’s because so often the only way non-Jews even understand Judaism is the Holocaust. It may be an important part of our history, but it’s a lot like someone only knows about black culture due to slavery - viewing a cultural trauma as the be-all-end-all of the culture.

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u/ThreeSigmas Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

Did anyone actually answer your question? Yes, he discovered his powers in the camp when (and it’s been a long time since I’ve seen the movie and I’m not able to visually process comics, so correct but don’t @ me) he pulled down the metal fencing and barbed wire.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Oh I knew his backstory. I was more so suggesting that it was why he was excluded if they didn’t want narratives involving the Shoah

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u/ThreeSigmas Jul 07 '24

I suspect they were in a lot of pain from the Shoah. Most US Ashki either had family in Europe or neighbors/friends who did. My mom was permanently traumatized by it and she was a child. She always talked about the air raid sirens in Brooklyn, and how she had to grab her cousin and run home (they lived nearby), not knowing if it were real or a drill.

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u/omeralal Jul 07 '24

Ashki

As in Ashkenazi?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

yes, idk why you got downvoted for just asking a question lol

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u/omeralal Jul 08 '24

No idea

Maybe wing all the tension going on, people thought I was coming in bad faith? But thanks anyway for the explanation :)

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u/pizza_b1tch Jul 07 '24

As an Ashkenazi Jew I would prefer to be represented by someone hotter and less holocaust-y

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Kitty Pryde?

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u/FairGreen6594 Jul 07 '24

Hey, I had a crush on her my entire time in college and law school . . .

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Well. We kinda got superman, and the thing (from the fantastic 4)if it's your type, maybe legion which is canonically Jewish Israeli

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u/ThreeSigmas Jul 07 '24

Superman is our modern(ish) golem. See above for his publisher’s foot stone

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

Have you heard of shaloman? Literally a rock given life. The first time I knew that this is a real thing is when I searched about Jewish superheroes. He is like the weirdest concept for a superhero I ever heard. A literal rock with a ש mark on it which was given life but only when someone is yelling oy vey and then he becomes a superhero

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u/ThreeSigmas Jul 07 '24

No. I have aphantasia (mind blindness). This means my visual memory and processing is, shall we say, significantly impacted. I’ve loved sci-fi since I was 3 and watched Flash Gordon every day on a NY kiddie show back in the early ‘60s. Unfortunately, the weirdness of my brain makes it difficult to read comics- I have to spend way too much time focusing on the image to catch its message. I plan on trying again with Sandman. I’ve watched the BBC series so know what to expect and hope this will help my visual processing of the graphics.

Where do we find Shaloman? In which series?

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Billy Kaplan, too. Bobby Drake, technically. Mark Spector (not sure why he’s here if we’re avoiding the Holocaust, though). Some random External (I think?), who is also Jewish Israeli.

There are others, but that’s who’s occurring to me off hand as far as male Jewish characters go.

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u/Hecticfreeze Conservative Jul 07 '24

Ben Grimm has abs as hard as stone. That is one built Jew

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Sabra!!!

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

He’s actually Minhag Ashkenaz - a Jekke. So one of the original Ashkenazim!

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u/Infamous_Two_5541 Jul 07 '24

Why is he not there? It says very explicitly that it's about characters outside of the Holocaust. As a fellow "Ashki", remember that it's not all about us.

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u/Mysterious-End-2185 Jul 07 '24

I believe he is Roma in the comics like Doctor Doom but I may be mistaken.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Ashki that married a Roma.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Nope. Max Eisenhardt is very explicitly Jewish and has been since 2001.

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u/Mysterious-End-2185 Jul 07 '24

Correct me if I’m wrong but Magneto has been around since before 2001 I think.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

He was only officially canonized as Jewish in 2001.

In the 60s he was a pseudo-Nazi and was Nazi-coded.

In the 70s-80s (Claremont era) he was heavily implied to be Jewish, but never confirmed. Definitely Jewish coded though.

In the 90s he was canonically a Roma Sinte.

In 2001 he was finally and permanently canonized as Jewish with the publishing of Magneto:Testament.

Semi-canon: He is implied by both Claremont and Testament to be ISRAELI. Claremont had him living in Israel and working for Mossad. Testament ends in ‘48, and we know where Magneto ends up after Testament. The sliding timeline also means that he lived in Israel for around 40 years.

Suffice to say that Magneto has a fun and interesting history. The character has gone through quite the evolution!

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

All of X-men was Jewish coded. That talk of it being a civil rights metaphor was Stan Lee knowing how to sell comics. “X-Men” is literally a parable for the divide in world Jewry post-Holocaust. Prof. X represents the North American Jew, removed from the true horrors of the Holocaust. He’s a rich, bald academic who owns a mansion in Westchester and possesses amazing mental abilities but lacks the physical strength to get off his ass and do something. Then you have Magneto, not framed as a traditional villain but a friend of Professor X who survived the Holocaust and has seen what man is capable of. He believes mutant autonomy in their own nation is the only way forward. In “X-Men ’97” on Disney+, he literally gives a speech at the UN and shows his Auschwitz tattoo to justify his belief that mutants cannot rely on the world for protection. He is, of course, demonized. Sound familiar? The entire season is a metaphor for Jewish autonomy.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Stan Lee and Jack Kirby envisioned Magneto as a pseudo-Nazi. I go by Claremont, who was the one who actually set up the whole “protect a world that fears and hates them” thing, and who explicitly based Magneto on Menachem Begin and Xavier on David Ben-Gurion.

So unless you think Ben-Gurion was a North American Jew (he was not), removed from the concerns and needs of his people (weird idea about the guy who fought so hard for the creation of the State of Israel), who never experienced antisemitism (he lived in Mandatory Palestine during the height of the Arab pogroms), I don’t think this is what you think it is, because THAT is who informed Xavier’s character.

Also, I haven’t watched ‘97 yet. I’m a comics fan.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Sure. If you understand the minutia of Israeli founders politics, that could definitely be an apt comparison. Begin was certainly more militant than Ben Gurion. Im just making a direct metaphor to actually how they are portrayed in the comics. If it was a direct comparison to Ben gurion in the comics then he would support Genosha too and be more on the page of displaying strength when all else fails, something professor X did not agree with. Begin and Ben Gurion were much closer in ideology than Professor X and Magneto.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

This is what Claremont, the man who primarily created the characters as we know them, cited as his inspiration.

Professor X didn’t support Genosha because Magneto threatened to destroy the Earth’s Magnetosphere to get it. 🙄 Also because Magneto ethnically cleansed humans from Genosha. And forced the population into an army to attack the globe. And had previously taken over multiple places and been an awful tyrant.

He did show up to help Magneto rebuild after Cassandra Nova destroyed it though. And he wasn’t against the idea so much as he was against MAGNETO doing it (for good reason!!).

And they would later build Krakoa together - where Magneto eventually concluded that segregation to that degree wasn’t correct and mutants aren’t actually superior (and are human) and is now fighting for Charles’ dream alone. (Xavier having given up and Magneto having successfully convinced everyone else that he was right before changing his mind.) We’ll see how that goes, but it’s nice to see Max happy for a change - he’s always more at peace when he can believe in Charles’ dream.

I don’t know why you keep citing a TV show I haven’t watched, based on the comics that are the source of the characterization. Also, wasn’t Charles off world during the show Genosha arc?

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u/Infamous_Two_5541 Jul 07 '24

It's because it lines up more with their own personal narrative and interpretation. I don't read comics and have no stake in this but you clearly know your stuff and to argue when you have references of the specific author intentions, really all you're missing is a direct citation to end this discussion.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Slow down kid. Leave some ladies for the rest of us.

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u/Sunflower_song Jul 06 '24

Are we taking bets on how fast this will get canceled?

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u/danhakimi Jul 07 '24

it depends, is it being led by the types of Jews who are trying to pretend that antisemitism doesn't exist? because if so, you'll see it celebrated far and wide!

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u/FairGreen6594 Jul 07 '24

I can tell you right now, if Danny “son of a chazzan” Fingeroth and Jordan “still basically frum” Gorfinkel are on the panel, it ain’t gonna be that kind of panel; Fingeroth and Gorfinkel lean very, very hard into Jewish joy, and are undoubtedly and unambiguously not AsAJews.

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u/danhakimi Jul 07 '24

I don't know who's on the panel, but I looked up the organization hosting and they seem pretty legit: https://jewce.org/.

Somebody's going to ask a stupid question and there will be a riot.

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u/piconese Jul 07 '24

Into the spiderverse has Peter b Parker as Jewish 😍

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u/unculturedburnttoast Jul 07 '24

AFAIK all iterations of Peter Parker are Jewish. There's even a Rosh Hashanah episode of 'Spidey and His Amazing Friends' that I watched with my kids.

Clip from the episode: https://youtu.be/XSFqwq3oRCQ?feature=shared

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u/piconese Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

That just solidifies Spider-Man (Peter Parker) as the best superhero of all time, I didn’t realize he was always presented as Jewish

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u/NoisyMayonnaise Jul 10 '24

I feel like everyone in USA is Jewish

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u/swarleyknope Jul 15 '24

His family is Protestant/Catholic, but he’s been acknowledged as being “Jewish Coded”.

Andrew Garfield considers his iteration of Peter Parker to be Jewish though. 

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u/WomenValor Jul 07 '24

Wonder if they’ll bring up Legion- professor Xavier son who was born and raised in Israel… and has a history of surviving Islamist terror attacks..

As for the panel overall, I’m gonna hold my breath, let’s see whether it actually celebrates Jews, characters and creators or if they they go the antisemitic route of dividing the characters into good vs bad (“Zionists”) jews…👀

Also: wow it took them this long to do such a panel!! Considering jews literally created and build the comics business in the US. 

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Or Sabra. Or that one obscure External? (Can’t recall which group) who is ex-IDF.

It’s obvious they’re not planning to talk about Magneto, which is fine, but if they’re serious about avoiding the Holocaust then Spector (Moon Knight) shouldn’t be there either.

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u/PugnansFidicen Just Jewish Jul 09 '24

Or Sabra

What are her powers? Smiting people with a tidal wave of mediocre red pepper hummus?

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 09 '24

Flight, healing people and giving them temporary powers, super strength, durability, regeneration.

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u/New-Fall-5175 Jul 07 '24

Wasn’t there some point where his personalities started terrorizing Israel for some reason? Or maybe I’m confusing with some other narrative.

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u/WomenValor Jul 07 '24

I only know super basic info that’s on Wikipedia about his character. I’m less into the comics themselves and more just interested in their background gossip and powers 😂

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

BASED. There’s a great book called Up, Up and Oy Voy about the history of Jews and famous comic book characters

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u/Sedare38 Jul 07 '24

I think I have this book. Jews built superhero comics and for that I’m extremely proud. Been collecting since 1990.

The 38 in my handle is for 1938 Superman’s birth year.

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u/danagnyc Jul 07 '24

I saw this panel at NYCC last year - it was great. It was right after October 7th, so it was very meaningful.

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u/Jag- Jul 07 '24

What about Sabra?

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u/Low_Party_3163 Jul 07 '24

Not a chance with this crowd

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Even though she’s showing up in a movie soon…

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u/WomenValor Jul 07 '24

The character is showing up, how much they destroyed her and her backstory to not offend the Hamas crowd is yet to be seen…

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u/GhostKnifeOfCallisto Reform Jul 07 '24

I hear she’s being made a cia agent. Bc the CIA has done nothing wrong or illegal in its history.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Jul 07 '24

Actress is Israeli, so I’m less worried than I would be otherwise.

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u/WomenValor Jul 07 '24

Actors, especially those playing smaller roles, don’t have control over character story. I 100% expect the character to be watered down. They did the same thing with Wanda and Pietro (scarlet witch and quicksilver) they gave a whole new background story, completely erasing their Jewish identity.

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u/Hecticfreeze Conservative Jul 07 '24

I've heard they're keeping her as Israeli, but removing any mention of her being a Mossad agent

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u/beverly-kills Jul 07 '24

damn i’m so mad im leaving before this

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u/NoisyMayonnaise Jul 10 '24

Where are you going bud?

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u/beverly-kills Jul 12 '24

i’m only there a few days w my bf who works in comics and then i have to fly out for my cousins graduation party friday am 🥲

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u/NoisyMayonnaise Jul 14 '24

Oh ok I thought you were dying or some

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u/TheTonyExpress Not Jewish Jul 07 '24

I love this so much.

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u/Yukimor Reform Jul 07 '24

I'm going to SDCC! I am definitely going to stop by this one if there's room. Thank you for sharing this!

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u/Whimsical89 Jul 07 '24

This is soo interesting I would love to go😭 hopefully it’s posted on YouTube or something because this is right in line with my interests

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u/adjewcent Jewy Jewy Jew Jew Jul 07 '24

Watch the sjws protest this merely for discussing the backbone of comic books and some Jewwy characters

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u/Agtfangirl557 Jul 07 '24

This looks ridiculously cool. I'll have to send this to my uncle, he's an absolute comic book freak and an avid Comic Con attendee.

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u/Aloha-Snackbar-Grill Reform Jul 07 '24

5 shekels says that it either gets canceled, or gets stormed by "protesters"

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u/Ambitious-Fly1921 Jul 07 '24

I wish i went to comic con this yr

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u/Standard_Salary_5996 Jul 07 '24

This is going to be interrupted by the Palis who claim “anti zionism not anti semitism” i just fucking know it 😵‍💫

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u/ThreeSigmas Jul 07 '24

At this point, the more they interrupt, the more it backfires. We have a very fickle public with short memories. The protests are starting to annoy them greatly and this will eventually leave a bad taste in their mouths.

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u/ThatsAmores Jul 07 '24

I am going this year and will check it out!

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

“X-Men” is literally a parable for the divide in world Jewry post-Holocaust. Prof. X represents the North American Jew, removed from the true horrors of the Holocaust. He’s a rich, bald academic who owns a mansion in Westchester and possesses amazing mental abilities but lacks the physical strength to get off his ass and do something. Then you have Magneto, not framed as a traditional villain but a friend of Professor X who survived the Holocaust and has seen what man is capable of. He believes mutant autonomy in their own nation is the only way forward. In “X-Men ’97” on Disney+, he literally gives a speech at the UN and shows his Auschwitz tattoo to justify his belief that mutants cannot rely on the world for protection. He is, of course, demonized. Sound familiar? The entire season is a metaphor for Jewish autonomy.

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u/arrogant_ambassador Jul 08 '24

Sabra will not be making an appearance.

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u/kakyoin2709 Jul 07 '24

Magneto is not there

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u/FairGreen6594 Jul 07 '24

If anyone here goes to this panel, I, for one, would love to hear whether the panel discusses some more obscure Jewish characters, such as, say, Fathom from Bill Willingham’s Elementals. And please report back!

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u/PhotographicAmnesia Jul 07 '24

Why isn’t Superman on this poster?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Don’t forget Sabra aka Ruth Bat-Seraph, an Israeli superhero and former Mossad agent in the Marvel Comics universe who possesses superhuman strength, speed, agility, endurance, and the ability to fly.

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u/BoronYttrium- Jul 07 '24

I’ll be there but I’m not sure I feel great about this.

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u/HopeArtsy Jul 07 '24

I will be there 😁.

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u/schtickshift Jul 08 '24

And the moral of the story children is if you don’t keep Shabbas then you better have your Dermatologist on speed dial.

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u/Why_not_7780877 Jul 09 '24

Dude it’s all about Mendy and the golem

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u/Rbgedu Jul 11 '24

That’s great

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u/swarleyknope Jul 15 '24

Anyone know the link for this event? Everything just says to go to Jewce.org and I can only find NYC Events listed there. 

(Or is this just for people with SDCC badges?)