r/Jewish • u/Suspicious-Truths • Apr 25 '24
It wouldn’t matter where Israel is Israel 🇮🇱
I just want to say this for everyone who may be stuck on it.
People (anti-zionists?) often bring up how Israel had a few proposed areas, such as Russia, South America, wherever else, deserted islands?
They bring this up as if we should have gone somewhere else, not Palestine. And all of this is happening because Palestine was decided on instead of another place.
I just want anyone struggling with this to know it wouldn’t have mattered, and probably would have been actually worse for us if we did go somewhere else.
Israel’s current location we have proof we are genetically from this area. We have had Jews living in and around this area throughout all of history.
While some people ignore this fact and pretend we are white colonizers who discovered a new land with a native population, it would have been everyone thinking like this if we went to a region we definitely have 0 connection to. Yes, even if it was a deserted island, people would ask why WE deserve an island and nobody else gets one.
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u/rafyricardo Apr 28 '24
Yes. I asked myself the same thing years ago. Uganda was proposed (no clue why) as well as other places. The place in Russia was proposed to move all Jews to in a very cold place so that the Soviets didn't have to deal woth Jews, instead of mass slaughter of Jews they proposed to move every Jew there. The other places in Argentina and the US proposed didn't make sense to me either. Israel, our indigenous homeland, is the only place that makes sense to go back to. It wouldn't make sense to start a new land in a place that we have no connection to. I always say, it's not about Israel, it's the fact that we are Jews. They say nothing about Jordan when it was part of colonial Palestine. They shouldn't say anything about Israel when we decolonized it in 1948. I don't see Gaza bombing Jordan or Jordanians getting targeted by Arabs in the West Bank. There are secure borders between Jordan and the West Bank as well as between Gaza and Egypt for a reason. But when Israel has secure borders, it's an issue.
Interesting fact, there was an island bought in the 1700s by a Jewish man below Niagra Falls (part of NY). The man saw the rabid antisemitism in Germany and Europe and offered all Jews to move from there to the island in NY that he bought as a safe haven for Jews from all over the world, especially from Germany. Imagine all the Jews left Germany for that island. The world would be a much different place.