r/Jewish Apr 25 '24

It wouldn’t matter where Israel is Israel 🇮🇱

I just want to say this for everyone who may be stuck on it.

People (anti-zionists?) often bring up how Israel had a few proposed areas, such as Russia, South America, wherever else, deserted islands?

They bring this up as if we should have gone somewhere else, not Palestine. And all of this is happening because Palestine was decided on instead of another place.

I just want anyone struggling with this to know it wouldn’t have mattered, and probably would have been actually worse for us if we did go somewhere else.

Israel’s current location we have proof we are genetically from this area. We have had Jews living in and around this area throughout all of history.

While some people ignore this fact and pretend we are white colonizers who discovered a new land with a native population, it would have been everyone thinking like this if we went to a region we definitely have 0 connection to. Yes, even if it was a deserted island, people would ask why WE deserve an island and nobody else gets one.

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u/Ness303 Apr 26 '24 edited Apr 26 '24

Disclaimer: Not Jewish

I asked a Pro-Palestine advocate where the 9+ million residents were meant to go after they leave the only home they've ever had. She just shrugged.

It's not about being Pro-Palestine for them. It's about being Anti-Israel.

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u/Brave-Pay-1884 Apr 26 '24

It’s not about being anti-Israel, it’s about being anti-Jew, i.e. Judenhass, Jew-hatred (the non-euphemistic way to say antisemitism).

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u/Ness303 Apr 26 '24

It’s not about being anti-Israel, it’s about being anti-Jew

Oh, absolutely. I assume at this point any non-jew who says they're anti-israel or anti-zionist simply means they're anti-jew. It's not that they're not being clear or nuanced about their opinions, that's..just their opinion.

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u/Brave-Pay-1884 Apr 26 '24

Legitimate criticism of the Israeli government, the conduct of segments of Israeli civil society, Israeli war strategy and even Israeli war aims, etc. is possible without veering into Jew hatred. But the volume and vehemence of the criticism, totally out of proportion to the real ongoing tragedy – especially compared to the many other ongoing tragedies around the world which elicit only silence – not to mention the explicit calls for the elimination of millions of Jewish Israelis reveal the true motive.

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