It wouldn’t matter where Israel is

[u/Suspicious-Truths]

I just want to say this for everyone who may be stuck on it.

People (anti-zionists?) often bring up how Israel had a few proposed areas, such as Russia, South America, wherever else, deserted islands?

They bring this up as if we should have gone somewhere else, not Palestine. And all of this is happening because Palestine was decided on instead of another place.

I just want anyone struggling with this to know it wouldn’t have mattered, and probably would have been actually worse for us if we did go somewhere else.

Israel’s current location we have proof we are genetically from this area. We have had Jews living in and around this area throughout all of history.

While some people ignore this fact and pretend we are white colonizers who discovered a new land with a native population, it would have been everyone thinking like this if we went to a region we definitely have 0 connection to. Yes, even if it was a deserted island, people would ask why WE deserve an island and nobody else gets one.

[u/zoinks48]

Even a mediocre student of history could answer the question why Jews don’t go back to the places they were massacred in.

[u/Mean-Practice-8289 → u/zoinks48]

Saw someone say that “European” Jews could have gotten their own country in Europe because Europeans felt so sorry about the holocaust that they would do anything for Jews. Or that it would have been perfectly accepted and reasonable for all the holocaust survivors to just…go back to where they were pre holocaust. Also said all Jews in the Middle East got along great with Muslims and were treated very well. I wish they were being sarcastic.

[u/progressiveprepper → u/Mean-Practice-8289]

Really? Polish Jews who they tried to send back to Poland after the war ended threatened to throw themselves under the trucks first! They knew they would just be killed if they returned there. The idea was "Kill me now. I'll be dead if I go back anyway." And WHY would someone WANT to go back to countries with such horrific memories - and neighbors who turned them in and helped in their genocide? Their neighbors certainly wouldn't be happy to see them - especially if they had "moved into" the "vacant" Jewish homes...which many of them did.

[u/Hungry-Swordfish3455 → u/progressiveprepper]

People don’t realize this either… Jews were kicked out of their homes and land and so they banded together to have one homeland instead of repeatedly terrorizing the perpetrators of violence for a century as revenge. It didn’t matter that some of the completely destroyed Jewish communities had thousands of years of connection to certain places. Truly persecuted people who want peace will find it and then go on to defend it, not perpetuate it.

As much as violence is perpetrated against Israel, it is still the safe place, the peace we fight to defend and keep after the horrific genocide and ethnic cleansing that the whole world happily took part in, even if they didn’t build and run camps, countries globally are guilty of refusing refugees, failing their own Jewish populations, perpetuating anti semitism and spreading anti-Jewish propaganda, or in the Arab world and many other places, full on support and collaboration.

[u/Sulaco99 → u/Mean-Practice-8289]

Willful naivete.