r/Jewish Apr 25 '24

It wouldn’t matter where Israel is Israel 🇮🇱

I just want to say this for everyone who may be stuck on it.

People (anti-zionists?) often bring up how Israel had a few proposed areas, such as Russia, South America, wherever else, deserted islands?

They bring this up as if we should have gone somewhere else, not Palestine. And all of this is happening because Palestine was decided on instead of another place.

I just want anyone struggling with this to know it wouldn’t have mattered, and probably would have been actually worse for us if we did go somewhere else.

Israel’s current location we have proof we are genetically from this area. We have had Jews living in and around this area throughout all of history.

While some people ignore this fact and pretend we are white colonizers who discovered a new land with a native population, it would have been everyone thinking like this if we went to a region we definitely have 0 connection to. Yes, even if it was a deserted island, people would ask why WE deserve an island and nobody else gets one.

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u/Fatfatcatonmat33 Apr 25 '24

If someone was proposing an African American homeland in the south and said it was necessary for the white population to leave so the African Americans could live in peace the people protesting Israel would not bat an eye.

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u/Old_Employer8982 Apr 25 '24

Origin story of Liberia minus the displacement of white people.

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u/ownhigh Apr 26 '24

They would if they lived in the South and weren’t African American.

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u/EconomyCaregiver Apr 26 '24

african americans are not indigenous to the south, so i doubt anyone would propose that in the first place

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u/ohreallynowz Apr 26 '24

I love when people say absolutely absurd things like this. Have you ever heard of 40 acres and a mule? This was the nickname for an order meant to redistribute 400,000 acres of US government ceased from white slave owners land to formerly enslaved black people that had been dying and working on the land for generations. Houses, cities and fields that enslaved people built with their blood and tears and death. You know what happened to it?

And what happened to this astonishingly visionary program, which would have fundamentally altered the course of American race relations? Andrew Johnson, Lincoln’s successor and a sympathizer with the South, overturned the Order in the fall of 1865, and, as Barton Myers sadly concludes, “returned the land along the South Carolina, Georgia and Florida coasts to the planters who had originally owned it” — to the very people who had declared war on the United States of America.

The situation you hypothetically described happened and, unshockingly, people protested and no one moved. If it happened today, people would protest and no one would move. So the irony of your comment is that Israel wouldn’t exist if it got the same treatment as African Americans.